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Team for Cov
at 11:59 28 Apr 2024

What's the consensus here on Pedder? I've seen one negative comment in the thread above.

I go and watch the U21s sometimes at Hanwell Town as it's nearby to me and he always stands out - well, before his injury anyway.
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Gareth Ainsworth Wellbeing!
at 11:54 28 Apr 2024

I have zero doubt that Gareth would have been as delighted as any of us to see us secure safety - and that speaks to his first rate character.

We built a squad over successive seasons and managers designed to play a certain style of football, and then hired a manager who had a track record of only ever playing a polar opposite style. In my book it's very harsh - bordering on silly - to blame the manager for that not working out.

As much as Cifuentes has been superb, and I'll be the first to contribute to the statute fund, any manager with a style more compatible to our squad was going to see a significant improvement in results. (In my opinion Marti is so good that he's delivered above and beyond that "reversion to mean", for the avoidance of doubt.)
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Pubs in Ealing
at 13:30 14 Mar 2024

Apparently The King's Arms is being re-opened but will now serve Nepalese food. Looking forward to trying it.
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Pubs in Ealing
at 13:28 14 Mar 2024

One of us. One of us. One of us.

Welcome.

To answer OP - The Haven Arms is a proper QPR pub. Go there.

If you fancy something fancier, try No 17. Avoid the Brewdog.
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Eze to Man Utd? Palace asking £77 mill
at 16:54 24 Jan 2024

Surely there must be some legal way of getting rid of someone who is essentially not showing up for work. Happens all the time in every other sector. How are players protected more than everyone else?
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Everything but the goal - Report
at 20:15 24 Sep 2023

Apologies for hijacking this thread, but I didn't think this was worthy of a thread on its own. @Clive, was it you running the Ealing Half this morning? I assumed so based on the name and QPR shirt and so cheered for you three times and made a gag about writing up a match report on your performance. Hope it was you or otherwise it was an odd gag for a stranger.

Well done on running and you were on a great pace. I've run it a few times in a QPR top and the support is always amazing from fellow Rs.
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Director of Finance - New Appointment
at 13:33 23 Aug 2023

Really?

If I had an asset that was losing me £1.5m or £2m a month and someone offered me a penny for it I'd snap their hands off.

Why do you think he'd hold out for £50m or more?
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Director of Finance - New Appointment
at 10:56 23 Aug 2023

I think the potential counter-view here is that new owners might rightly believe they could set a better strategy for the club.

If I were a US investor - or consortium - I'd be looking at Luton, Coventry, to a lesser extent Millwall & Ipswich, even Brentford, Brighton and Bournemouth - and thinking that those clubs had/have similar financial constraints to us, and still progressed. A new owner could have a huge impact that does some really basic things, like (1) set a consistent strategy that doesn't change manager to manager, (2) puts in place really clear guardrails on recruitment between Belk, a new DoF, and whoever the first-team coach is, and (3) sticks to budgets for playing staff, irrespective of how persuasive the likes of Warburton are that they can 'have a go' this year.

Our owners have been idiots, but thankfully they've been benevolent idiots unlike those at Reading. It's a low bar for new ownership to surpass. Throw in that we're London based (which I still think is an attraction for owners) and we've invested in the new training facility, and I can see why we'd still be attractive, despite the financials.

One thing we have to be eternally grateful for is that the benevolent idiots have paid the debt themselves by converting debt into equity. £50m sounds a lot to you and me, but to the likes of those that invest in a sports 'franchise' from the US, especially if it's a consortium, it really is very little. Especially given they can spread a lot of that cost over multiple years (e.g. the FFP fine and training ground).
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Willock to Boro latest Twitter rumour
at 17:02 14 Aug 2023

Asked a big Cov mate this question. Apparently had a nasty injury and was a much poorer player last season as a result. However, apparently a good character in the dressing room and staff/players/fans loved him there. Sounds like one of those signings that would be a gamble with a decent upside if it came off, but with low-ish risk given wages won't be too high. Just not sure we can gamble with that RB slot...
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Linford Christie Stadium.
at 22:32 17 Jul 2023

Lovely idea, but the amount we'd have to spend on that to end up with some more corporate seats and a few thousand extra unsold seats every week makes the business case unworkable, to put it politely.

If we're going to put the £100m plus required into a new stadium, then it needs to generate revenue for us all year round on non match days. That's through corporate events, other sports teams playing there, concerts etc etc. Your solution doesn't solve the fundamental issue of the facilities (toilets, bars etc) at Loftus Road being awful, and the seating space being woeful.

We'd end up with a very expensive Frankenstein stadium that doesn't generate all that much more revenue than LR does today.

Appreciate the thinking that went into it, but can't see it even nearly working.
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Ainsworth ranked last on The Second Tier Podcast.
at 10:42 14 Jul 2023

I'm still pretty open minded on Ainsworth. I won't judge him based on last season as he had to work with a team in freefall as others have eloquently described. His record with a very resource constrained Wycombe is nothing to sniff at.

More than anything, he appears to be a leader of men, rather than 'just' or 'even' a technical coach. And if you ask me what's been wrong with QPR squads in the last few years, it's been more the mental fragility than any technical limitations, although of course those technical limitations are still there to some extent, as with all teams. Given that, appointing someone who builds team spirit first, and the rest after, might not be such a bad idea...

Looking forward to him hopefully proving the doubters wrong.
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£1.5m a month loss
at 17:21 10 Jul 2023

Our accounts aren't that hard to find if you Google them.

If that's not your thing, look up the Swiss Ramble summary of our accounts, or the excellent write ups that are on this site from Roller.
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Linford Christie Stadium.
at 22:29 26 Jun 2023

As much as I'd love a gentle 10 minute stroll to our home games, I can't see that site ever being a goer. Transport access is really poor for 25k.
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JoJo Gone
at 13:07 20 Jun 2023

I'm not sure I am, but please explain what I'm misunderstanding.

You've written that "23/24- we can lose £4.2m".

In the last reported accounts we lost £24m.

We hope that we got those losses down to £10m for the season just gone. Let's assume we did that by gates going up, some high earners off the books like Austin, Gray, Barbet etc (which feels hopeful to me but let's say we've done it).

To get that £10m loss down to £4m we have to trim the wage budget or get £6m in sales. It's hard to see where £6m in transfer sales is coming from, although I'll be delighted to be wrong on that, so we're back to trimming the wage budget, which has clearly started.

What am I missing or misunderstanding?

What I'd like to know is if the league are going to give clubs any leniency for the 21/22 accounts because of the COVID impact. That could be our saving grace, if we're happy to accept continuing to lose millions of pounds each year as saving grace...
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JoJo Gone
at 10:56 20 Jun 2023

Haven't you just highlighted the exact problem Clive is talking about?

By your own calculations in 23/24 we can only lose £4.2m. That is going to be extremely hard for us to do, even with new TV money. So while we can technically get away with a £10m loss this year, we create a bigger rod for ourselves in 23/24.

Fundamentally, whichever way you look at it there is a very limited budget and we shouldn't be aiming to make the biggest loss we're allowed to each year, especially given that will just cause more pain down the road.
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Rafferty Pedder
at 10:29 8 Jun 2023

I've watched the B team a few times at Hanwell as it's nearby (shocking, I know, given the monkier).

I've always thought Pedder looks pretty good, but comments on physicality might be fair. Think he needs to be tested with a loan this season, ideally six months in L2 initially.
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Summer Transfer Rumours
at 16:01 1 Jun 2023

Dreadful take. Us spending the type of money we'd need to spend to get Clarke-Harris would be the opposite of financial hardship. And you think us getting one dud from Peterborough means we shouldn't sign anyone else from them? Given they also produced Toney, Gayle and Assombalonga I'm not sure we should be blaming them. If we rule out signings from every club we've ever had a dud from there aren't many ponds we can fish in anymore.
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Feeling disinterested
at 15:28 21 Mar 2023

I can relate to the OP. Not quite as young, but mid 30s with a young family.

Had a ST throughout my teenager years and early 20s. Probably gone to approx. 10 home games per year between 25-30. Now I've got a young family I get to every home evening game and an occasional Saturday game.

Confess that I'm also finding it hard to care all that much. Not sure if that's getting older and life being busy, or the current malaise, but I was really enjoying the Warburton years. I think I feel a bit deflated because I did believe that the club was heading in the right direction - wages being cut each year, playing good football, and finishing higher up the table each year (on the whole) under MW. However, the recent accounts and his falling out with the ownership structure have cast a different light on that period, and I think I'm annoyed that it feels like the club gambled (again!) when it didn't need to.

I can cope with us being crap. My happiest memories are probably from our L1 season. I hate us being crap and not learning our lessons. Feels like a lot of basic mistakes are being repeated, and that's what's so deflating.

Sorry, ramble as I'm thinking out loud, but it's cathartic!
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QPR Finances released
at 10:47 28 Feb 2023

Don't forget that the new TV deal - understandably unpopular with the fans who go home and away - will bring in an extra £10m per year (or so) to the club. Although, having just looked that up I think it only comes into play from the 24/25 season, so perhaps not as helpful as I'd hoped, and would still leave our rolling loss above the £39m target.

The only option here is to significantly cut player wages - that figure has to come down much closer to £15m per year, ideally starting next year. Expect GA to be letting a lot of players go this summer, bringing in players from L1 on a free, and selling the likes of Chair / Willock / Dykes at 'bargain basement' prices to get their wages off the book and hopefully gain a few million here and there. Depressing, but given what the current crop are serving up for £27m a year, perhaps not that depressing...
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QPR - Are there any positives?
at 18:59 18 Feb 2023

Surely the main big positive on the horizon is that we've got a new training ground, that we'll own, due to open this summer? It's a huge step forward for the club and arguably a lot more important in the short term than a new ground.

Doesn't seem to generate much / any excitement but it's the one thing giving me hope.
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