| British police 01:44 - May 22 with 2133 views | Bicester_North |
Not sure how they have been so heavy handed and over the top at football, yet when there’s disorder on the streets lately such as in Swansea the other day, or in some of the London or Glasgow incidents, they seem to back off and leave the rioters to it
Even in the 80’s when there were riots quite a lot I don’t recall the coppers running away even if they took a lot of injuries
Not saying policing is easy, but have they got soft? In this Swansea riot nobody seemed to have any fear whatsoever of them.
Yet at football they were top heavily nicking and/or tw@tting people for any slight sign of bother. |  |
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| British police on 05:04 - May 22 with 2087 views | DorsetIan |
Maybe they need Priti Patel leading the line. She seems to want a direct role in policing these days.
Would be great to see her leading from the front. | |
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| British police on 07:25 - May 22 with 2047 views | Heisenberg |
Cutting 20,000 police numbers didn’t help. |  |
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| British police on 09:48 - May 22 with 1942 views | Ron11 |
| British police on 07:25 - May 22 by Heisenberg |
Cutting 20,000 police numbers didn’t help. |
Yes Theresa May's so called legacy.
They do seem to go for non politically sensitive targets these days though, and as a result levels of disrespect for authority, common decency and the law are increasing rapidly.
Just as an example, I just saw the headline article on the online Daily Echo this morning about the mob of 'teenagers' (or whatever they're called these days)causing chaos in Royal Victoria Park and leave piles of litter and crap on the ground. Where's the police?
Yet if it was a normal Saturday with saints at home, there would 40 plus coppers at the ground.
Easy to confront football fans, but not a mob of disrespectful, obnoxious, arrogant dickheads. | | | |
| British police on 10:03 - May 22 with 1926 views | kingolaf |
Law and order is an absolute joke in this country.
The force has been politicised by successive governments.
Their main remit should be stop crime and protect the public.
It all started with Blunkett’s PCSO’s, and has been royally mucked up since then. | | | |
| British police on 11:03 - May 22 with 1893 views | Berber |
| British police on 09:48 - May 22 by Ron11 |
Yes Theresa May's so called legacy.
They do seem to go for non politically sensitive targets these days though, and as a result levels of disrespect for authority, common decency and the law are increasing rapidly.
Just as an example, I just saw the headline article on the online Daily Echo this morning about the mob of 'teenagers' (or whatever they're called these days)causing chaos in Royal Victoria Park and leave piles of litter and crap on the ground. Where's the police?
Yet if it was a normal Saturday with saints at home, there would 40 plus coppers at the ground.
Easy to confront football fans, but not a mob of disrespectful, obnoxious, arrogant dickheads. |
The club are probably paying for those idlers to be there. |  | | |
| British police on 11:11 - May 22 with 1890 views | Sadoldgit |
| British police on 10:03 - May 22 by kingolaf |
Law and order is an absolute joke in this country.
The force has been politicised by successive governments.
Their main remit should be stop crime and protect the public.
It all started with Blunkett’s PCSO’s, and has been royally mucked up since then. |
Our local PCSO’s used to be very good. The numbers have been cut back no and we rarely see them any more. |  | | |
| British police on 11:39 - May 22 with 1871 views | GasGiant |
But they are no doubt "monitoring the situation" . | | | |
| British police on 11:54 - May 22 with 1866 views | professor_peach |
Not really sure what the point of the "Police and Crime Commissioner" is. To hold the police to account apparently. Just seems another way of politicising something. |  | | |
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| British police on 12:24 - May 22 with 1825 views | Saintsforeverj |
Every time there is large scale disorder, whenever the police have got "heavy handed", they have been criticised, with officers ending up in court. So the police stand back and just contain because they are scared of the consequences, yes for upholding the law. So we will see more and more of this. It doesn't matter how many officers we have, they are all walking on egg shells, worried about harming a rioter and then losing their job or worse. In the 80's police were able to do their job, as were teachers and others. It's now about using a different, less confrontational approach, and people take advantage. [Post edited 22 May 2021 12:28]
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| British police on 13:34 - May 22 with 1754 views | Gennaro_Contaldo |
| British police on 12:24 - May 22 by Saintsforeverj |
Every time there is large scale disorder, whenever the police have got "heavy handed", they have been criticised, with officers ending up in court. So the police stand back and just contain because they are scared of the consequences, yes for upholding the law. So we will see more and more of this. It doesn't matter how many officers we have, they are all walking on egg shells, worried about harming a rioter and then losing their job or worse. In the 80's police were able to do their job, as were teachers and others. It's now about using a different, less confrontational approach, and people take advantage. [Post edited 22 May 2021 12:28]
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Absolutely, it's more about it being a lose-lose situation for the police. Get involved and they get criticised and hauled over the coals. Sit back and it's chaos.
Get involved with football fans and no one cares.
It's also the traffic police, where are they now??
Local police stations being shut doesn't help and that started many years ago. Get them back open, get a few police walking / cycling locally on the beat and away from paperwork.
The Swansea thing is baffling though. Get the shields out, baton them and push them back. |  |
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| British police on 13:42 - May 22 with 1742 views | Saintsforeverj |
| British police on 13:34 - May 22 by Gennaro_Contaldo |
Absolutely, it's more about it being a lose-lose situation for the police. Get involved and they get criticised and hauled over the coals. Sit back and it's chaos.
Get involved with football fans and no one cares.
It's also the traffic police, where are they now??
Local police stations being shut doesn't help and that started many years ago. Get them back open, get a few police walking / cycling locally on the beat and away from paperwork.
The Swansea thing is baffling though. Get the shields out, baton them and push them back. |
Exactly right. Football fans, well nobody will care if an officer gets rough with a typical skin head thug. But if its women, young people, religious groups or whatever, the police stand back and we all know why. We arn't going to have people wanting to be police officers, we have a teacher shortage, and the rest because they can't do their job. And it's all because of the do gooders, actually causing more violence and chaos. | |
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| British police on 15:45 - May 22 with 1686 views | kingslandstand1 |
| British police on 13:34 - May 22 by Gennaro_Contaldo |
Absolutely, it's more about it being a lose-lose situation for the police. Get involved and they get criticised and hauled over the coals. Sit back and it's chaos.
Get involved with football fans and no one cares.
It's also the traffic police, where are they now??
Local police stations being shut doesn't help and that started many years ago. Get them back open, get a few police walking / cycling locally on the beat and away from paperwork.
The Swansea thing is baffling though. Get the shields out, baton them and push them back. |
The odd water cannon wouldn't go amiss either |  | | |
| British police on 15:50 - May 22 with 1682 views | saint22 |
| British police on 07:25 - May 22 by Heisenberg |
Cutting 20,000 police numbers didn’t help. |
But surely the Tories are doing a great job aren’t they? | | | |
| British police on 17:19 - May 22 with 1654 views | dwayne_dibley |
| British police on 12:24 - May 22 by Saintsforeverj |
Every time there is large scale disorder, whenever the police have got "heavy handed", they have been criticised, with officers ending up in court. So the police stand back and just contain because they are scared of the consequences, yes for upholding the law. So we will see more and more of this. It doesn't matter how many officers we have, they are all walking on egg shells, worried about harming a rioter and then losing their job or worse. In the 80's police were able to do their job, as were teachers and others. It's now about using a different, less confrontational approach, and people take advantage. [Post edited 22 May 2021 12:28]
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they certainly did a job on the miners |  |
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| British police on 17:23 - May 22 with 1653 views | Ron11 |
| British police on 11:39 - May 22 by GasGiant |
But they are no doubt "monitoring the situation" . |
'Incidents such as this are very rare' | | | |
| British police on 17:52 - May 22 with 1635 views | Saintsforeverj |
| British police on 17:19 - May 22 by dwayne_dibley |
they certainly did a job on the miners |
And they need to do a job on these thugs.
It's even happening on our door step.
"We will look to work with local partners to consider the most effective long-term solution.”
Just baton the thugs, water cannon them, and get them home with a massive fine. The world has gone mad. These thugs are rubbing their hands together at how easy it is. Let's have another meeting and fill out some forms to decide what to do 🤔
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/19321557.amp/ [Post edited 22 May 2021 17:58]
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| British police on 18:22 - May 22 with 1593 views | dwayne_dibley |
| British police on 17:52 - May 22 by Saintsforeverj |
And they need to do a job on these thugs.
It's even happening on our door step.
"We will look to work with local partners to consider the most effective long-term solution.”
Just baton the thugs, water cannon them, and get them home with a massive fine. The world has gone mad. These thugs are rubbing their hands together at how easy it is. Let's have another meeting and fill out some forms to decide what to do 🤔
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/19321557.amp/ [Post edited 22 May 2021 17:58]
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water cannons with dye in the water that shows up on skin | |
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| British police on 00:46 - May 23 with 1466 views | Bicester_North |
| British police on 15:50 - May 22 by saint22 |
But surely the Tories are doing a great job aren’t they? |
Can’t you comment on anything without mentioning the tories or veiled digs at Saints you weasel? | |
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| British police on 12:22 - May 23 with 1307 views | Bison |
| British police on 18:22 - May 22 by dwayne_dibley |
water cannons with dye in the water that shows up on skin |
Are water cannons Carbon Neutral ? |  |
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| British police on 12:57 - May 23 with 1292 views | Berber |
| British police on 12:22 - May 23 by Bison |
Are water cannons Carbon Neutral ? |
Maybe they could fire liquid manure? | | | |
| British police on 13:13 - May 23 with 1279 views | dwayne_dibley |
| British police on 12:57 - May 23 by Berber |
Maybe they could fire liquid manure? |
mixed with bleach to remove the smell | |
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