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Steve McClaren Resigns 11:26 - Nov 19 with 2657 viewsSaintNick

Just resigned from the job as Jamaica manager, he is an experienced manager in the Premier League and also the Championship.

So could he be the experienced manager we need ?

Discuss

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Steve McClaren Resigns on 11:46 - Nov 19 with 2602 viewssaints__fan__73

How is McClaren island looking nowadays? That exposed promontory of hair which is moving ever further away from the mainland.
[Post edited 19 Nov 16:28]

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Steve McClaren Resigns on 12:07 - Nov 19 with 2557 viewsPatfromPoole

The king of memes and other piss-takes on Twitter, whether it's his laughable Dutch accent or his attempt to usher Newcastle players to celebrate with him at the end of a game.

He'll fit right in.

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Steve McClaren Resigns on 13:27 - Nov 19 with 2453 viewsStAnt

Steer well clear of him and the likes of Steve Bruce.
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 13:27 - Nov 19 with 2453 viewsJellybaby

There's a name I hoped I had forgotten.

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Steve McClaren Resigns on 15:42 - Nov 19 with 2337 viewsBerber

He has failed in every managerial position he has held. So, based on SR’s record so far, yeah, why not? Bruce too, let’s get them out of the way before we can hope for someone decent.

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Steve McClaren Resigns on 15:53 - Nov 19 with 2308 viewskingslandstand1

He's not popular on here then Nick?

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Steve McClaren Resigns on 16:10 - Nov 19 with 2290 viewsIfonly

I'm not saying that McClaren is the answer, but this shows how tricky the issue is, whichever way you try to solve it. In this case, yeah he's failed, but if we get an experienced manager then it will be someone who has failed along the way, unless it's someone who only has experience in the lower leagues.

If they only have experience in the lower leagues then there might be a good reason for that, but also do we want someone who only knows the lower leagues? Maybe yes, but that puts us at a disadvantage if we're ever promoted because then PL experience is vital. You could say just get promoted and then replace the manager but that's never going to happen, so the likelihood is we come straight back down again.

I think a lot of people are unrealistic about who we can get, apart from anything else because most managers won't fancy being sacked in 3 months time. Whichever way this goes I think the majority of people will be disappointed.
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 16:52 - Nov 19 with 2240 viewsTonyfromdk

Steve McClaren Resigns on 16:10 - Nov 19 by Ifonly

I'm not saying that McClaren is the answer, but this shows how tricky the issue is, whichever way you try to solve it. In this case, yeah he's failed, but if we get an experienced manager then it will be someone who has failed along the way, unless it's someone who only has experience in the lower leagues.

If they only have experience in the lower leagues then there might be a good reason for that, but also do we want someone who only knows the lower leagues? Maybe yes, but that puts us at a disadvantage if we're ever promoted because then PL experience is vital. You could say just get promoted and then replace the manager but that's never going to happen, so the likelihood is we come straight back down again.

I think a lot of people are unrealistic about who we can get, apart from anything else because most managers won't fancy being sacked in 3 months time. Whichever way this goes I think the majority of people will be disappointed.


I think most managers don’t care about being sacked.
Its a payday and normal in football.
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 17:20 - Nov 19 with 2207 viewsIfonly

Steve McClaren Resigns on 16:52 - Nov 19 by Tonyfromdk

I think most managers don’t care about being sacked.
Its a payday and normal in football.


No one wants to be sacked unless they're 70 years old. No football manager wants to be paid off on a 3 year contract when it could ruin the rest of their 20 or 30 year career.
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 18:06 - Nov 19 with 2138 viewsdirk_doone

Just what we need:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/steve-mcclaren-sees-jamaica-failure

The manager who won their World Cup group is 78-year-old Dick Advocaat. After 25 managerial jobs his career win rate is still over 52%. He's achieved some amazing results like winning the UEFA Cup with Russian club, Zenit, and managing, Curacao, the smallest nation ever to qualify for the World Cup finals, at an age when most managers are either retired or dead.

Managerial career
1980–1984 DSVP
1987 Netherlands Women
1987–1989 HFC Haarlem
1989–1991 SVV
1991–1992 Dordrecht
1992–1994 Netherlands
1994–1998 PSV
1998–2001 Rangers
2002–2004 Netherlands
2004–2005 Borussia Mönchengladbach
2005 United Arab Emirates
2005–2006 South Korea
2006–2009 Zenit Saint Petersburg
2009–2010 Belgium
2009–2010 AZ
2010–2012 Russia
2012–2013 PSV
2013–2014 AZ
2014 Serbia
2015 Sunderland
2016–2017 Fenerbahçe
2017 Netherlands
2017–2018 Sparta Rotterdam
2018–2019 Utrecht
2019–2021 Feyenoord
2021 Iraq
2022–2023 ADO Den Haag
2024– Curaçao

I'm not suggesting he should come here, but hats off to him for such a long and successful career.
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 18:50 - Nov 19 with 2083 viewssaintwizzler

Steve McClaren Resigns on 17:20 - Nov 19 by Ifonly

No one wants to be sacked unless they're 70 years old. No football manager wants to be paid off on a 3 year contract when it could ruin the rest of their 20 or 30 year career.


Will Still is a very wealthy man now.
5 months work for 36 months pay.
Laughing all the way to the bank.

Russell Martin walked away with £7m from Rangers.
He’ll never have to work again.

And don’t get me started on Hasenhuttl.

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Steve McClaren Resigns on 22:52 - Nov 19 with 1933 viewsIfonly

Steve McClaren Resigns on 18:50 - Nov 19 by saintwizzler

Will Still is a very wealthy man now.
5 months work for 36 months pay.
Laughing all the way to the bank.

Russell Martin walked away with £7m from Rangers.
He’ll never have to work again.

And don’t get me started on Hasenhuttl.


Wealthy men yes, but not a patch on how wealthy they would be if they have a full career manging at the top level. Also, just like players they don't only think about money. They want to work their way up from success to success and win some prizes. None of them want to be remembered as a failure. They want the glory too. Working at SFC under Banana Republic puts that career plan at risk.
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 16:36 - Nov 20 with 1638 viewsmushinexile

That's some CV!

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Steve McClaren Resigns on 22:39 - Nov 21 with 1396 viewssaintpaz

god no! lol
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 07:20 - Nov 22 with 1310 viewssaintwizzler

Steve McClaren Resigns on 22:52 - Nov 19 by Ifonly

Wealthy men yes, but not a patch on how wealthy they would be if they have a full career manging at the top level. Also, just like players they don't only think about money. They want to work their way up from success to success and win some prizes. None of them want to be remembered as a failure. They want the glory too. Working at SFC under Banana Republic puts that career plan at risk.


If I’d of just been sacked with a £7m golden handshake plus what money I’d already accumulated in the game I wouldn’t give a flying if people thought I was a failure.
I’d be on the next plane outta this broken country to somewhere warm.

I’ll send you a postcard babe.

WE MARCH ON

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Steve McClaren Resigns on 08:03 - Nov 22 with 1282 viewssaint22

Steve McClaren Resigns on 07:20 - Nov 22 by saintwizzler

If I’d of just been sacked with a £7m golden handshake plus what money I’d already accumulated in the game I wouldn’t give a flying if people thought I was a failure.
I’d be on the next plane outta this broken country to somewhere warm.

I’ll send you a postcard babe.

WE MARCH ON


This
And this is the problem these days, how many managers really give a toss? They are set for life plus it’s more common now that the managers with no real history in football waltz in and then get fired and paid off
Crazy business, what other job can you work such a short period of time badly and then be paid off so ridiculously
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 08:31 - Nov 22 with 1239 viewsTonyfromdk

Steve McClaren Resigns on 07:20 - Nov 22 by saintwizzler

If I’d of just been sacked with a £7m golden handshake plus what money I’d already accumulated in the game I wouldn’t give a flying if people thought I was a failure.
I’d be on the next plane outta this broken country to somewhere warm.

I’ll send you a postcard babe.

WE MARCH ON


Exactly. I’m sure Mourinho doesn’t mind being a “failure”.
He’s done alright, thank you very much. How many times has he been sacked ?
Still though he’ll always get a job in elite football…
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 09:19 - Nov 22 with 1195 viewsdarthvader

Steve McClaren Resigns on 08:31 - Nov 22 by Tonyfromdk

Exactly. I’m sure Mourinho doesn’t mind being a “failure”.
He’s done alright, thank you very much. How many times has he been sacked ?
Still though he’ll always get a job in elite football…


I always thought it would be fun to get him (Jose) in . A circus yes but he would command respect and pretty sure the stadium would be full
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keep the faith coyr

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Steve McClaren Resigns on 09:47 - Nov 22 with 1161 viewsTonyfromdk

Steve McClaren Resigns on 09:19 - Nov 22 by darthvader

I always thought it would be fun to get him (Jose) in . A circus yes but he would command respect and pretty sure the stadium would be full
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I agree.
It would almost be like a Keegan moment
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 09:51 - Nov 22 with 1154 viewsjopreston

Steve McClaren Resigns on 08:03 - Nov 22 by saint22

This
And this is the problem these days, how many managers really give a toss? They are set for life plus it’s more common now that the managers with no real history in football waltz in and then get fired and paid off
Crazy business, what other job can you work such a short period of time badly and then be paid off so ridiculously


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Steve McClaren Resigns on 11:58 - Nov 22 with 1085 viewsIfonly

Steve McClaren Resigns on 08:31 - Nov 22 by Tonyfromdk

Exactly. I’m sure Mourinho doesn’t mind being a “failure”.
He’s done alright, thank you very much. How many times has he been sacked ?
Still though he’ll always get a job in elite football…


You really think a man with an ego like Mourinho doesn't mind being seen as a failure?? You've obviously never come across anyone with an ego half the size of his. Unfortunately, I have.
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 12:05 - Nov 22 with 1077 viewsIfonly

Steve McClaren Resigns on 07:20 - Nov 22 by saintwizzler

If I’d of just been sacked with a £7m golden handshake plus what money I’d already accumulated in the game I wouldn’t give a flying if people thought I was a failure.
I’d be on the next plane outta this broken country to somewhere warm.

I’ll send you a postcard babe.

WE MARCH ON


Yeah, that's the difference between you and those who are looking to build a long term career out of it.
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 14:37 - Nov 22 with 1016 viewsTonyfromdk

Steve McClaren Resigns on 11:58 - Nov 22 by Ifonly

You really think a man with an ego like Mourinho doesn't mind being seen as a failure?? You've obviously never come across anyone with an ego half the size of his. Unfortunately, I have.


Okay, whatever…
I think it’s past your bedtime now.
Sleep tight and … you know the rest 😴
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Steve McClaren Resigns on 14:45 - Nov 22 with 993 viewsIfonly

Steve McClaren Resigns on 14:37 - Nov 22 by Tonyfromdk

Okay, whatever…
I think it’s past your bedtime now.
Sleep tight and … you know the rest 😴


A reply that's up there with your normal standard Tony...

p.s. I suggest you don't ever ask Mourinho if he minds being remembered as a failure.
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