| Wilf cost us £15m 10:08 - May 21 with 6020 views | whiterock |
why would Swansea listen to offers of £18-£20m as reported in the Sunday Papers
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 18:19 - May 21 with 1245 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 18:16 - May 21 by Natterjack |
16 league goals not a huge amount? That's 1 goal behind Aguero and Rooney, level with Dzeco and Giroud and ahead of Premier League 'talents' such as Lukaku, Van Persie, ..etc,
As stated previously, when you consider his goal tally against the top defenders in the league it becomes even more impressive!
Why do we always look to knock players when they've done fantastically well? It's only a few years ago we were criticising our board for spending the huge sum of £35k on Paul Connor from Rochdale FFS. Now we have one of the best strikers in the country worth millions and some are not convinced. |
You had to be there maaaaaaaaaan lol !
Those were the days, getting excited about signing Carl Heggs et all  |  |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 19:12 - May 21 with 1189 views | JackFish |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 16:12 - May 21 by ereksten |
As I responded to the statement "his goals alone kept us up", I hardly see why that matters. |
We won two games this season by a single goal, one of which Bony scored twice, and the other he forced an own goal. I would imagine that if you looked at most of our squad and took out their goals we wouldn't lose many points.
If we did indeed pay £14.8m for him as has been talked about recently then I would certainly be looking for more than £25m now, there's surely no way we'd sell for less than that? |  | | |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 19:18 - May 21 with 1176 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 13:51 - May 21 by whiterock |
£25m with achievable add ons |
I think this would be the most likely scenario. There may be a couple of clubs interested if he became available too, but i think he'll still be our player next season. His agent has been making the 'right' noises from our perspective. What we do need is a suitable back-up. |  |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 19:23 - May 21 with 1169 views | Starsky |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 13:56 - May 21 by icecoldjack |
Well his signing on bonus must have been huge then because huw said his wages were within our wage structure !
There. Arnt many 15m quid footballers out there earning 35k a week
Anyway, he has already paid back the money by keeping us in the premier league, he is our best striker bordering on world class and he is also our best defender ! He is worth a crazy amount of money IMO at least to us .
I hope wilf gives us another season and keeps us up then he can get his move . |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 19:57 - May 21 with 1145 views | AnotherJohn |
Selling Wilf doesn't make any sense at all to me, unless the player himself was agitating to go and not performing.
(a) Even with a £25m fee our actual profit after agents' fees, tax etc is probably going to be well under £10m.
(b) That seems a modest return for taking the gamble of laying out nearly £15m for a player with no EPL track record, who may or may not have come good - there are plenty of examples of £15m plus signings who are behind Wilf in the goals league.
(c) Having taken the money, we then have to take another gamble. We cannot afford somebody who is already doing the business in the EPL or we lay out the whole 25m, so have to hope to find somebody else who can step up.
(d) We have to do that within WB's wage structure.
We'd be lucky to end up with more than 8m profit and if we then pick a dud we get relegated and lose over £60m per annum. | | | |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 20:09 - May 21 with 1130 views | Spratty |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 16:13 - May 21 by Tom1912 |
It's not an interesting stat-it's completely meaningless. That's not how football works. "If you remove that goal and assist, we'd have still beaten Villa 2-1". Since Christmas, Bony has been the difference. |
Well Tom it is interesting to me and why so defensive I don't think anyone is criticising Bony. I have watched almost every game he has played and understand the contribution he makes to the team and as I said it does not make him any less valuable to us. |  | | |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 20:12 - May 21 with 1122 views | Spratty |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 16:16 - May 21 by Uxbridge |
It would mean something if you saw him play and saw the impact he has on the game. Anyone who thinks we'd have stayed up with Vazquez leading the line instead is bonkers. |
Don't think anyone was suggesting Vasquez were they?
I did mention Lita was good at defending corners (had the most amazing explosive spring into a header IMHO) but was not suggesting him either. | | | |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 20:30 - May 21 with 1098 views | Spratty |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 17:51 - May 21 by johnlangy |
16 goals when he was played very sparingly in the first half of the season ? I think it's a fantastic return.
Of course, he's got to do it again next season but I don't see any reason why he won't. You could say that defenders will be more aware of him now. Well, they seemed to be very aware of him during the last 12/15 games or so but they couldn't do anything to stop him. |
Do you want to do the Laudrup never played him thing, about the player that has played more games than any other player in our team?
Very sparingly - he played full European games from the start - making a major contribution. Additionally he played in every single PL game under Laudrup for which he was fit.
He said himself the lack of preseason was a problem and he was used to having the ball delivered to his feet. He also said that the PL was more difficult. His fitness and mobility needed to be built up to fit in with the team.
Remember despite his obvious ability quite a few were saying he was crap / not suited to our team. That is why he was not playing full PL games in the first 12 games. However given he was playing full Europe games and averaging 55 minutes when he was initially playing partial games, then there is no way it can be said he was played sparingly. In fact when he started playing full PL games from early Nov (when Michu was injured) he picked up a hamstring injury and was out 3 weeks. | | | |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 20:39 - May 21 with 1086 views | Dr_Winston |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 20:30 - May 21 by Spratty |
Do you want to do the Laudrup never played him thing, about the player that has played more games than any other player in our team?
Very sparingly - he played full European games from the start - making a major contribution. Additionally he played in every single PL game under Laudrup for which he was fit.
He said himself the lack of preseason was a problem and he was used to having the ball delivered to his feet. He also said that the PL was more difficult. His fitness and mobility needed to be built up to fit in with the team.
Remember despite his obvious ability quite a few were saying he was crap / not suited to our team. That is why he was not playing full PL games in the first 12 games. However given he was playing full Europe games and averaging 55 minutes when he was initially playing partial games, then there is no way it can be said he was played sparingly. In fact when he started playing full PL games from early Nov (when Michu was injured) he picked up a hamstring injury and was out 3 weeks. |
He was never Laudrup's preferred option up front, particularly for the "big" games and it's frankly a little bizarre (although not unexpected in your case) to see people still trying to claim otherwise.
You claim he said himself that he was lacking fitness and neatly omit the other quotes. The ones about him sitting on the bench and wondering why the f*ck he'd bothered coming here.
The fact that so many people couldn't see the abilty he clearly possessed, even early in the season merely makes them just as clueless as Laudrup was on the subject of strikers. |  |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 20:42 - May 21 with 1078 views | Darran |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 20:39 - May 21 by Dr_Winston |
He was never Laudrup's preferred option up front, particularly for the "big" games and it's frankly a little bizarre (although not unexpected in your case) to see people still trying to claim otherwise.
You claim he said himself that he was lacking fitness and neatly omit the other quotes. The ones about him sitting on the bench and wondering why the f*ck he'd bothered coming here.
The fact that so many people couldn't see the abilty he clearly possessed, even early in the season merely makes them just as clueless as Laudrup was on the subject of strikers. |
Disturbing isn't it? |  |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 20:43 - May 21 with 1072 views | Dr_Winston |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 20:42 - May 21 by Darran |
Disturbing isn't it? |
Tediously so. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 22:06 - May 21 with 1020 views | Uxbridge |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 20:12 - May 21 by Spratty |
Don't think anyone was suggesting Vasquez were they?
I did mention Lita was good at defending corners (had the most amazing explosive spring into a header IMHO) but was not suggesting him either. |
Given Michu was injured, who else was Laudrup going to play instead? |  |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 22:53 - May 21 with 941 views | Dyfnant |
£3M more than they paid us for Allen 2 years ago, I'd wipe my arse with that cheque and send it back special delivery |  |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 23:07 - May 21 with 908 views | Natterjack |
Hopefully this is just lazy journalism but if not then £18m is derisory and we should tell Rogers to do one.
He can have Vorm without much of a fight but Wilf will cost a lot more than that |  | | |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 23:09 - May 21 with 867 views | Darran |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 23:07 - May 21 by Natterjack |
Hopefully this is just lazy journalism but if not then £18m is derisory and we should tell Rogers to do one.
He can have Vorm without much of a fight but Wilf will cost a lot more than that |
Unless they know Suarez is off it's bollox though I still don't see Bony fitting in there the way they play. | |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 02:14 - May 22 with 790 views | dameedna |
we had Alvaro, Ngog, Emnes and Lita as strikers, none of whom could hit a barn door with a banjo with the exception of Emnes who most believed had left his Banjo behind on the beach
Have to say and not being controversial but Alvaro looked good in training but was found out this time round, extending his loan would have been an option but am fairly sure his departure is all about GM building a mean and nasty squad for next year
Bony and Michu are beasts and we need another leader up front but that is not going to be easy and we need to know Michu's level of fitness before thinking about letting Bony look at any incoming offers |  | | |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 02:50 - May 22 with 782 views | SwansNZ |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 02:14 - May 22 by dameedna |
we had Alvaro, Ngog, Emnes and Lita as strikers, none of whom could hit a barn door with a banjo with the exception of Emnes who most believed had left his Banjo behind on the beach
Have to say and not being controversial but Alvaro looked good in training but was found out this time round, extending his loan would have been an option but am fairly sure his departure is all about GM building a mean and nasty squad for next year
Bony and Michu are beasts and we need another leader up front but that is not going to be easy and we need to know Michu's level of fitness before thinking about letting Bony look at any incoming offers |
Yeah, we let Alvaro go becuase he is not mean and nasty - that'll be it [Post edited 22 May 2014 2:54]
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 05:48 - May 22 with 764 views | dameedna |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 02:50 - May 22 by SwansNZ |
Yeah, we let Alvaro go becuase he is not mean and nasty - that'll be it [Post edited 22 May 2014 2:54]
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Alvaro lacked presence against centre halves, needed a tougher approach on top of skills | | | |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 06:13 - May 22 with 753 views | Dr_Winston |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 05:48 - May 22 by dameedna |
Alvaro lacked presence against centre halves, needed a tougher approach on top of skills |
Skills? | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 08:35 - May 22 with 686 views | Dyfnant |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 05:48 - May 22 by dameedna |
Alvaro lacked presence against centre halves, needed a tougher approach on top of skills |
Add him to the list of strikers under 25 not ripping up the Prem & la Liga, may on day be ok but we can't afford to hold onto him for 3/4 years | |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 08:39 - May 22 with 679 views | whiterock |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 22:06 - May 21 by Uxbridge |
Given Michu was injured, who else was Laudrup going to play instead? |
Had Michu not been injured, who knows if Wilf would have got his chance. | | | |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 08:41 - May 22 with 677 views | Uxbridge |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 08:39 - May 22 by whiterock |
Had Michu not been injured, who knows if Wilf would have got his chance. |
True enough. | |
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| Wilf cost us £15m on 09:03 - May 22 with 654 views | dameedna |
| Wilf cost us £15m on 08:41 - May 22 by Uxbridge |
True enough. |
expect someone to come along any time now and say "Michu is not a striker"
Alvaro skillfully avoided getting injured by centre halves | | | |
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