| Ash! 19:45 - Jun 25 with 9983 views | shandyjack |
Reported on Twitter he's broken his collar bone, what a warrior |  |
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| Ash! on 21:25 - Jun 25 with 3042 views | DJack |
| Ash! on 20:25 - Jun 25 by Phil_S |
Coleman should have overruled him, it should be the choice of the manager and medical staff not the player IMO |
Which is what I was saying to my wife during the game and I must say that is my only disappointment with Cookie in this tournament (excluding hindsight before some of our special posters pipe up). |  |
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| Ash! on 22:38 - Jun 25 with 2889 views | Clinton |
Irresponsible, but the kind of attitude that wins things.
Cookie should have overruled him and sent Ginge on. Thankfully all ended well, |  |
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| Ash! on 23:22 - Jun 25 with 2803 views | ItchySphincter |
| Ash! on 20:25 - Jun 25 by Phil_S |
Coleman should have overruled him, it should be the choice of the manager and medical staff not the player IMO |
Course it should. Weak by the manager. |  |
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| Ash! on 23:40 - Jun 25 with 2764 views | hobo |
| Ash! on 21:01 - Jun 25 by DrGonzo |
I've broken my collarbone. You can sort of tell when you've done it like. Stings somewhat. |
Same - and the way he was holding it did look like a broken collarbone. Let's hope not though |  | | |
| Ash! on 23:57 - Jun 25 with 2742 views | Ferryjack |
What a prick ash with no arms is better than collins |  | | |
| Ash! on 00:31 - Jun 26 with 2661 views | ItchySphincter |
| Ash! on 23:57 - Jun 25 by Ferryjack |
What a prick ash with no arms is better than collins |
No you put it like that Ash with no arms and no legs is better than Collins. Why the f*ck is he even there? | |
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| Ash! on 01:29 - Jun 26 with 2638 views | longlostjack |
| Ash! on 20:25 - Jun 25 by Phil_S |
Coleman should have overruled him, it should be the choice of the manager and medical staff not the player IMO |
Exactly. Could have all gone very wrong. |  |
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| Ash! on 03:08 - Jun 26 with 2598 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Ash! on 01:29 - Jun 26 by longlostjack |
Exactly. Could have all gone very wrong. |
Ash the indestructible and his ego eh |  |
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| Ash! on 09:12 - Jun 26 with 2400 views | SwansNZ |
| Ash! on 23:57 - Jun 25 by Ferryjack |
What a prick ash with no arms is better than collins |
Less of a chance of one of his handballs in the penalty area.
Swings and roundabouts and all that. |  |
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| Ash! on 09:18 - Jun 26 with 2384 views | Kilkennyjack |
I want to speak up for Ash.
A leader who stayed on the battlefield to ensure the famous victory was achieved. Well done skipper, job done.
Ashley is superman. |  |
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| Ash! on 09:20 - Jun 26 with 2379 views | jasper_T |
| Ash! on 09:18 - Jun 26 by Kilkennyjack |
I want to speak up for Ash.
A leader who stayed on the battlefield to ensure the famous victory was achieved. Well done skipper, job done.
Ashley is superman. |
A true leader would have let one of his deputies fill in when he's not fit for the task.
Ash put his ego before the team. | | | |
| Ash! on 09:29 - Jun 26 with 2360 views | magicdaps10 |
Fully understand and respect what Ash believed but Coleman should have made the call.
Ash was injured but felt he could still do a job and arguably he did with a few clearnecs in at the end but Coleman is top of the triangle and makes the big calls. |  |
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| Ash! on 10:59 - Jun 26 with 2223 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Ash! on 09:29 - Jun 26 by magicdaps10 |
Fully understand and respect what Ash believed but Coleman should have made the call.
Ash was injured but felt he could still do a job and arguably he did with a few clearnecs in at the end but Coleman is top of the triangle and makes the big calls. |
Ash had a flashback and thought Monk was Wales manager | |
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| Ash! on 11:12 - Jun 26 with 2202 views | ScoobyDoo |
| Ash! on 10:59 - Jun 26 by Brynmill_Jack |
Ash had a flashback and thought Monk was Wales manager |
Not saying that i have always liked Williams but he has gone up in my estimations, really showed the spirit that is in that camp, maybe a bit too brave for his own good but it just shows how much it means to them to play for the cause. Well done Ashley Williams. | | | |
| Ash! on 11:25 - Jun 26 with 2168 views | felixstowe_jack |
We won so staying on was right decision. If we had lost it would have been the wrong decision. Hindsight is wonderful looking back. | |
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| Ash! on 11:34 - Jun 26 with 2101 views | dailew |
| Ash! on 11:25 - Jun 26 by felixstowe_jack |
We won so staying on was right decision. If we had lost it would have been the wrong decision. Hindsight is wonderful looking back. |
Lucky Ash had the foresight to not come off. |  |
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| Ash! on 11:41 - Jun 26 with 2083 views | jack247 |
| Ash! on 09:20 - Jun 26 by jasper_T |
A true leader would have let one of his deputies fill in when he's not fit for the task.
Ash put his ego before the team. |
This is spot on. As much as I admire his courage for playing on, he should put the team first. On top of that, it shouldn't be his decision to make. He said he was fine, but he was running around with his arm almost limp by his side. There is no way that wouldn't have impaired his balance or his concentration. It was just lucky he didn't have any major tackles or headers to make whilst injured.
As much as we can joke about Collins, aerial bombardments are right up his street. You wouldn't expect him to carry the ball out of defence or ping diagonal passes like Ash does, but put him in a physical battle with a big centre forward and he holds his own.
Didn't matter in the end though. Scrappy performance, incredible achievement. Same again Friday would be fantastic. | | | |
| Ash! on 12:02 - Jun 26 with 2048 views | airedale |
When do you reckon we will get an accurate update on the damage to his bod? |  | | |
| Ash! on 12:48 - Jun 26 with 1965 views | jack247 |
| Ash! on 11:25 - Jun 26 by felixstowe_jack |
We won so staying on was right decision. If we had lost it would have been the wrong decision. Hindsight is wonderful looking back. |
The fact we won doesn't make it the right decision. An injured Ash being better than Collins (which I don't think is the case) would be a valid reason for it being the right decision.
If we had got a penalty, he had insisted on taking it and missed, that wouldn't have been the right decision just because we won. | | | |
| Ash! on 10:56 - Jun 27 with 1580 views | sa3swan |
Chris Coleman news conference later with update. I caught the end of a Talksport interview earlier though and Alan Brazil said along the lines of "That's great that Ashley Williams will be fit then, but a dislocated shoulder is really painful". I think Kit Symons had just been on. | | | |
| Ash! on 11:35 - Jun 27 with 1505 views | LeonisGod |
| Ash! on 20:25 - Jun 25 by Phil_S |
Coleman should have overruled him, it should be the choice of the manager and medical staff not the player IMO |
Not how it works though - they player is always asked (head injuries aside). He's the one who knows best how he feels. It's only stupid if Ash misses the next match solely because he stayed on, and that's difficult to prove. |  | | |
| Ash! on 12:12 - Jun 27 with 1408 views | jasper_T |
| Ash! on 11:35 - Jun 27 by LeonisGod |
Not how it works though - they player is always asked (head injuries aside). He's the one who knows best how he feels. It's only stupid if Ash misses the next match solely because he stayed on, and that's difficult to prove. |
"How he feels" isn't the most important thing. How he can perform trumps all, and Ash was struggling with one arm out of order.
Got very lucky. | | | |
| Ash! on 12:24 - Jun 27 with 1369 views | jack247 |
| Ash! on 12:12 - Jun 27 by jasper_T |
"How he feels" isn't the most important thing. How he can perform trumps all, and Ash was struggling with one arm out of order.
Got very lucky. |
As well as that, it's a slap in the face to a player we may well be relying on Friday. Ash thought he was a better bet impaired than Collins, Coleman agreed. Can't see his confidence being too high after that | | | |
| Ash! on 13:41 - Jun 27 with 1244 views | Drizzy |
| Ash! on 12:12 - Jun 27 by jasper_T |
"How he feels" isn't the most important thing. How he can perform trumps all, and Ash was struggling with one arm out of order.
Got very lucky. |
Shut up you massive whinging tit. |  |
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| Ash! on 13:52 - Jun 27 with 1221 views | sa3swan |
He's fit to play according to Coleman just now anyway. (Well, 'should be'). | | | |
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