| Coronavirus figures 11:40 - Jun 12 with 5728 views | exhmrc1 |
Here is the evidence showing the Wag's policy is right.
Area - likely reproduction number (range of possibility) - Doubling/halving time for the number of new cases
East Midlands - 0.9 (0.7-1.1) - halves in 27 days
East of England - 0.7 (0.5-0.9) - halves in 9.7 days
London - 0.8 (0.6 - 1.1) - halves in 20 days
North East - 0.7 (0.5-1) - halves in 8. days
North West - 0.8 (0.7-1) - halves in 17 days
Northern Ireland - 0.9 (0.6-1.2) - halves in 27 days
Scotland - 0.9 (0.6-1.1) - halves in 25 days
South East - 0.9 (0.7-1) - halves in 21 days
South West - 1 (0.7-1.3) - doubles in 90 days
Wales - 0.7 (0.5-0.8) - halves in 7.8 days
West Midlands - 0.8 (0.7-1) - halves in 18 days
Yorkshire and The Humber - 0.8 (0.7-1) - halves in 16 days
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| Coronavirus figures on 13:54 - Jun 12 with 986 views | Scotia |
| Coronavirus figures on 13:41 - Jun 12 by Kilkennyjack |
Drakeford has been outstanding.
He has an advantage though, in that he actually does care about saving lives.
Economies will recover, corpses will not.
England should follow the Professor.
Plenty of good work to benefit from. |
Do you realise that England's infection rate on the whole seems to be dropping as much as ours whilst their economy is slowly picking up and morale improves?
Once again today, old wattle neck has refused to give any information on easing restrictions. If this carries on we will be in dire need of the English to buy second homes to kick start our housing market.
Do you really think that is outstanding leadership? | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 13:55 - Jun 12 with 984 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 13:37 - Jun 12 by Scotia |
But that drop is still nowhere near the drop that is being seen in Scotland, Northern Ireland or possibly,for that matter, England. We've been tracking above them for at least three weeks.
As you say the outbreaks are highly localised, so why can't people living in less affected areas travel to see relatives or go to the beach as they could if they lived in rural England?
Drakeford has very little to be proud of. |
The childrens commissioner for England has suggested they should follow the Welsh method over schools.
The ONS has produced figures showing the R in Wales is the lowest in the UK.
These people must be wrong. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 14:01 - Jun 12 with 977 views | exhmrc1 |
Most of the corona virus deaths in Powys are recorded in Wales. The upper Swansea valley including Ystradgynlais and Abercrave go to Morriston Hospital. People from the Sennybridge, Brecon, Builth and Crickhowell go to Price Charles in Merthyr and Nevill Hall in Abergavenny and place like Rhyader and Machynlleth go to Bronglais in Aberystwyth. only a very small proportion go to England and the population of Powys is a small proportion of those living in Wales. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 14:13 - Jun 12 with 972 views | Scotia |
| Coronavirus figures on 13:55 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
The childrens commissioner for England has suggested they should follow the Welsh method over schools.
The ONS has produced figures showing the R in Wales is the lowest in the UK.
These people must be wrong. |
If not wrong then outdated.
Another successful day in Drakeford's locked down Wales, new cases:-
Scotland - 27.
WALES - 77.
Well done Mark, avoid a second wave by keeping the first one going. Looks like Wales really are going for herd immunity. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 15:17 - Jun 12 with 944 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Coronavirus figures on 14:13 - Jun 12 by Scotia |
If not wrong then outdated.
Another successful day in Drakeford's locked down Wales, new cases:-
Scotland - 27.
WALES - 77.
Well done Mark, avoid a second wave by keeping the first one going. Looks like Wales really are going for herd immunity. |
Maybe have a think about how bad it would have been without a sensible Welsh Government locking down for longer. |  |
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| Coronavirus figures on 15:54 - Jun 12 with 928 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Coronavirus figures on 14:01 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
Most of the corona virus deaths in Powys are recorded in Wales. The upper Swansea valley including Ystradgynlais and Abercrave go to Morriston Hospital. People from the Sennybridge, Brecon, Builth and Crickhowell go to Price Charles in Merthyr and Nevill Hall in Abergavenny and place like Rhyader and Machynlleth go to Bronglais in Aberystwyth. only a very small proportion go to England and the population of Powys is a small proportion of those living in Wales. |
Then why do public health Wales keep publishing their figures every day for Powys with the warning they do not include deaths in English hospitals. Perhaps they should include them as well. | |
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| Coronavirus figures on 16:00 - Jun 12 with 924 views | chad |
| Coronavirus figures on 13:36 - Jun 12 by Kilkennyjack |
Maybe its the long border we share with England ?
Certainly impacting the Gogs later than the south. |
Now now KK your rules, no mitigating data, just flat numbers
Poor old Drakers though being misquoted? in the press...
‘One area where a lot of pressure is building is in tourism. The Welsh Secretary Simon Hart wrote to the First Minister earlier this week to criticise his comments in a newspaper interview. The First Minister denied that he’d said tourism in Wales was ‘over’ for the year but said it would not be returning to a normal way of operating.
And the Welsh Association of Visitor Attractions which represents 65 tourism businesses including Zip World, Folly Farm, Welsh Mountain Zoo, Snowdon Mountain Railway and Dan yr Ogof Show Caves issued a joint statement warning that ‘Wales’ second largest industry is on the brink of collapse.’
They’ve urged the First Minister to publish a ‘roadmap’ setting out when the tourism industry can see the possibility of reopening here in Wales.
Good old folly farm, many a happy day. Let’s hope many more to come for all these businesses. Amazing the impact on businesses and families. It seems that only 2% of deaths in the UK have been in the under 50s
Also didn’t realise Drakers had:
‘also indicated that the ban on travelling more than five miles in the country would remain in place well into July’ |  | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 16:05 - Jun 12 with 923 views | exhmrc1 |
Compare the figures
21 May 166
22 May 138
23 May 182
24 May 140
25 May 106
26 May 141
27 May 97
Compare with
6 June 42
7 June 40
8 June 42
9 June 42
10 June 38
11 June 63
12 June 77
That is an average of 138 per day down to 49. A huge improvement in my eyes. Down nearly 2/3 in just over 3 weeks. | | | |
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| Coronavirus figures on 16:07 - Jun 12 with 922 views | jack_lord |
| Coronavirus figures on 12:00 - Jun 12 by felixstowe_jack |
Plus all the Corona virus deaths from Powys residents are recorded as deaths in England because the patients are sent to english hospitals. Powys apparently does not have intensive care hospitals. |
So people from Ystradgynlais who have died, the second largest (give or take) town in Powys are recorded in England even though they will have been taken to Morriston or Singleton? |  |
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| Coronavirus figures on 16:49 - Jun 12 with 910 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 16:07 - Jun 12 by jack_lord |
So people from Ystradgynlais who have died, the second largest (give or take) town in Powys are recorded in England even though they will have been taken to Morriston or Singleton? |
No most people in Powys have their deaths recorded there. Those that go to hospital in England dont get shown on our figures here. Even if all the Powys new cases and deaths were in England it would only have a minimal effect on our Welsh figures. The Welsh population of 3 Million is far higher than the 130,000 population in Powys which is 4% of the overall population before taking into account the numbers in Powys who go to Morriston, Singleton, Price Charles, Bronglais and Nevil Hall hospitals and possibly Wrexham Maelor as well. 8 of the 12 biggest towns in Powys would go to Welsh hospitals. Approximately 1% of the overall population would go to England. Pembrokeshire which has a similar size population to Powys has 281 cases and Powys 296 and this is very much in keeping with population size. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 16:59 - Jun 12 with 900 views | Scotia |
| Coronavirus figures on 16:05 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
Compare the figures
21 May 166
22 May 138
23 May 182
24 May 140
25 May 106
26 May 141
27 May 97
Compare with
6 June 42
7 June 40
8 June 42
9 June 42
10 June 38
11 June 63
12 June 77
That is an average of 138 per day down to 49. A huge improvement in my eyes. Down nearly 2/3 in just over 3 weeks. |
Those first set of figures are from when the R0 in the article you quoted was calculated. The second set show an increase in the R0 figure to probably higher than 1,that is not a good trend. And certainly not an indication that our lock down is working.
In fact Scotland, Northern Ireland and England show a continued decrease despite relaxing lock down.
My personal opinion and experience show that people have had enough of the Drakefords aimless path out of lock down and are doing their own thing.
For instance I'm down the marina, the area outside the river house is packed. If pubs were allowed to open beer gardens the crowds would be far more dispersed. As things stand at the moment we don't know when that will happen, so everyone is just taking advantage of the one place they can have a pint. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 17:06 - Jun 12 with 894 views | majorraglan |
| Coronavirus figures on 12:00 - Jun 12 by felixstowe_jack |
Plus all the Corona virus deaths from Powys residents are recorded as deaths in England because the patients are sent to english hospitals. Powys apparently does not have intensive care hospitals. |
Rubbish.
Powys doesn’t have any intensive care beds, but residents in Powys access medical services across Wales including intensive care. Typical hospitals including Morriston, Merthyr and Abergavenny plus and a raft of other places including Bronglais. Residents nearthe border with England do access services in Shrewsbury and Hereford. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 17:09 - Jun 12 with 885 views | bennytheblue |
| Coronavirus figures on 11:50 - Jun 12 by Kilkennyjack |
Thank you for posting.
Fantastic to see the actions of our Welsh Parliament producing outcomes that help to keep us safe and help to get us back on the road to recovery soonest.
Well done to Professor Drakeford and his team.
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With thousands queuing up for universal credit due to the lefty tw@t |  | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 17:10 - Jun 12 with 881 views | PozuelosSideys |
Going to be interesting to see the 'true-up' in the numbers over the next few months to get a legitimate picture of excess deaths. A lot of people who died due to covid would likely have died due to pre existing conditions. You would think the excess death average over the next 3 to 6 months will be down compared to previous years based on historical trend data. |  |
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| Coronavirus figures on 17:11 - Jun 12 with 879 views | majorraglan |
| Coronavirus figures on 16:49 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
No most people in Powys have their deaths recorded there. Those that go to hospital in England dont get shown on our figures here. Even if all the Powys new cases and deaths were in England it would only have a minimal effect on our Welsh figures. The Welsh population of 3 Million is far higher than the 130,000 population in Powys which is 4% of the overall population before taking into account the numbers in Powys who go to Morriston, Singleton, Price Charles, Bronglais and Nevil Hall hospitals and possibly Wrexham Maelor as well. 8 of the 12 biggest towns in Powys would go to Welsh hospitals. Approximately 1% of the overall population would go to England. Pembrokeshire which has a similar size population to Powys has 281 cases and Powys 296 and this is very much in keeping with population size. |
Apologies, hadn’t seen your post. I started writing mine, got distracted and missed yours when I came back to finish my post off. [Post edited 12 Jun 2020 18:24]
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| Coronavirus figures on 17:14 - Jun 12 with 866 views | bennytheblue |
| Coronavirus figures on 13:54 - Jun 12 by Scotia |
Do you realise that England's infection rate on the whole seems to be dropping as much as ours whilst their economy is slowly picking up and morale improves?
Once again today, old wattle neck has refused to give any information on easing restrictions. If this carries on we will be in dire need of the English to buy second homes to kick start our housing market.
Do you really think that is outstanding leadership? |
Drakeford has been outstanding? Omg I’ve seen it all.....5 mile rule is just fantastic in a city 12 miles wide and in remote areas where supermarkets are more than that. The clown is about to destroy the tourism industry in west wales toapparently protect lives?
He like queues does MD, there will be huge ones all over wales at job centres very soon. I’m sure all the people he’s phucked off in Westminster will be bending over to help the welsh out....not.
If you thought you had it bad before, you ain’t seen nothing yet folks. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 17:16 - Jun 12 with 860 views | bennytheblue |
| Coronavirus figures on 15:17 - Jun 12 by Kilkennyjack |
Maybe have a think about how bad it would have been without a sensible Welsh Government locking down for longer. |
Longest in the world now aren’t we? | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 17:38 - Jun 12 with 839 views | jack_lord |
| Coronavirus figures on 16:49 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
No most people in Powys have their deaths recorded there. Those that go to hospital in England dont get shown on our figures here. Even if all the Powys new cases and deaths were in England it would only have a minimal effect on our Welsh figures. The Welsh population of 3 Million is far higher than the 130,000 population in Powys which is 4% of the overall population before taking into account the numbers in Powys who go to Morriston, Singleton, Price Charles, Bronglais and Nevil Hall hospitals and possibly Wrexham Maelor as well. 8 of the 12 biggest towns in Powys would go to Welsh hospitals. Approximately 1% of the overall population would go to England. Pembrokeshire which has a similar size population to Powys has 281 cases and Powys 296 and this is very much in keeping with population size. |
I knew this, just kind of making a point for someone to think about. Well done for articulating the figures. | |
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| Coronavirus figures on 17:56 - Jun 12 with 829 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Coronavirus figures on 17:09 - Jun 12 by bennytheblue |
With thousands queuing up for universal credit due to the lefty tw@t |
Well economies do bounce back.
Corpses don’t. | |
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| Coronavirus figures on 17:58 - Jun 12 with 827 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Coronavirus figures on 17:16 - Jun 12 by bennytheblue |
Longest in the world now aren’t we? |
Best to be safe.
People are still quite important in Wales. | |
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| Coronavirus figures on 19:00 - Jun 12 with 788 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 17:16 - Jun 12 by bennytheblue |
Longest in the world now aren’t we? |
A look at full figures makes really interesting reading. Today there were no new cases in Powys, 2 in Swansea Bay and Hywel Dda and 3 in Aneurin Bevan area yet there will 11 new cases in Cardiff and 26 in Cwmtaf area. Why!. Also why 25 new cases in North Wales. This highlights the need to stay local. The sooner the figures in Cardiff and RCT come down the sooner the lockdown can be removed and we will all be able to move freely. These 3 areas are always higher than the others so something is working here that isnt working there. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 19:25 - Jun 12 with 779 views | Scotia |
| Coronavirus figures on 19:00 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
A look at full figures makes really interesting reading. Today there were no new cases in Powys, 2 in Swansea Bay and Hywel Dda and 3 in Aneurin Bevan area yet there will 11 new cases in Cardiff and 26 in Cwmtaf area. Why!. Also why 25 new cases in North Wales. This highlights the need to stay local. The sooner the figures in Cardiff and RCT come down the sooner the lockdown can be removed and we will all be able to move freely. These 3 areas are always higher than the others so something is working here that isnt working there. |
So why can't people in Ceredigion get a haircut or sit in a beer garden now? Or at least know when they may be able to. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 19:43 - Jun 12 with 768 views | bennytheblue |
| Coronavirus figures on 19:00 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
A look at full figures makes really interesting reading. Today there were no new cases in Powys, 2 in Swansea Bay and Hywel Dda and 3 in Aneurin Bevan area yet there will 11 new cases in Cardiff and 26 in Cwmtaf area. Why!. Also why 25 new cases in North Wales. This highlights the need to stay local. The sooner the figures in Cardiff and RCT come down the sooner the lockdown can be removed and we will all be able to move freely. These 3 areas are always higher than the others so something is working here that isnt working there. |
There’s been about 10 in Cardiff for about two weeks now, in a county population of around 600,000 it’s not very many is it? The r is almost under 7, it was 0.65 in Germany when restrictions were lifted.
Drakeford seems intent on pi$$ing off Westminster, maybe he thinks people will blame the Tories when thousands end up in the dole next year, not his Labour Party? Feel sorry for folks I know in west wales, desperate for some tourism but he’s intent in killing them off.
Plenty of other places around Europe open it seems. | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 19:47 - Jun 12 with 766 views | exhmrc1 |
| Coronavirus figures on 19:25 - Jun 12 by Scotia |
So why can't people in Ceredigion get a haircut or sit in a beer garden now? Or at least know when they may be able to. |
Because having a haircut would risk both the Hairdresser or the customer getting infected due to how close they are. Nobody knows who is infected. This is standard practice throughout the UK not just Wales. As far as people travelling outside the local area this is to prevent the spread. It is far more likely someone in Cardiff and RCT is infected than Swansea at the moment so allowing somebody to travel to Swansea could increase the risk of it spreading. The figures prove that the lockdown and local is working and if everybody follows it the figures will continually reduce to next to nothing | | | |
| Coronavirus figures on 19:59 - Jun 12 with 763 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Coronavirus figures on 19:47 - Jun 12 by exhmrc1 |
Because having a haircut would risk both the Hairdresser or the customer getting infected due to how close they are. Nobody knows who is infected. This is standard practice throughout the UK not just Wales. As far as people travelling outside the local area this is to prevent the spread. It is far more likely someone in Cardiff and RCT is infected than Swansea at the moment so allowing somebody to travel to Swansea could increase the risk of it spreading. The figures prove that the lockdown and local is working and if everybody follows it the figures will continually reduce to next to nothing |
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