| UK breaking up on 18:53 - Oct 25 with 1793 views | britferry |
We know who did the counting for the poll
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| UK breaking up on 19:23 - Oct 25 with 1775 views | Kilkennyjack |
| UK breaking up on 18:53 - Oct 25 by britferry |
We know who did the counting for the poll
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She would still do a better job than posh boy Tory toffs who dont know the price of milk.
The people of Scotland will decide.
The UK is not a prison. |  |
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| UK breaking up on 19:28 - Oct 25 with 1764 views | raynor94 |
Drakeford and Gething doing a fantastic job to put any Welsh person off independence. Thank God. |  |
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| UK breaking up on 19:39 - Oct 25 with 1745 views | pencoedjack |
| UK breaking up on 19:28 - Oct 25 by raynor94 |
Drakeford and Gething doing a fantastic job to put any Welsh person off independence. Thank God. |
Indeed they have taken it backwards.
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| UK breaking up on 20:48 - Oct 25 with 1711 views | Catullus |
| UK breaking up on 19:23 - Oct 25 by Kilkennyjack |
She would still do a better job than posh boy Tory toffs who dont know the price of milk.
The people of Scotland will decide.
The UK is not a prison. |
They had a vote and chose to remain in the Union. The Scottish government stated in its white paper that it was a once in a generation vote, probably expecting to win.
Once in a generation doesn't mean every 6 or 7 years.
Tell me, if we'd voted to remain in the EU, do you think we'd get another vote in less than 20 years? We all know the answer, 43 years we waited last time. | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:20 - Oct 25 with 1685 views | builthjack |
Independence will come to them, followed by Wales. Within 15 years. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| UK breaking up on 21:28 - Oct 25 with 1681 views | Kilkennyjack |
| UK breaking up on 20:48 - Oct 25 by Catullus |
They had a vote and chose to remain in the Union. The Scottish government stated in its white paper that it was a once in a generation vote, probably expecting to win.
Once in a generation doesn't mean every 6 or 7 years.
Tell me, if we'd voted to remain in the EU, do you think we'd get another vote in less than 20 years? We all know the answer, 43 years we waited last time. |
Show me were it said once in a generation ? | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:35 - Oct 25 with 1676 views | Catullus |
| UK breaking up on 21:28 - Oct 25 by Kilkennyjack |
Show me were it said once in a generation ? |
In the SNP white paper proposing the indy vote,
https://www.gov.scot/publications/scotlands-future/
The relevant passage is,
If we vote No, Scotland stands still. A once in a generation opportunity to follow a different path, and choose a new and better direction for our nation, is lost. Decisions about Scotland would remain in the hands of others. | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:42 - Oct 25 with 1669 views | Kilkennyjack |
| UK breaking up on 21:35 - Oct 25 by Catullus |
In the SNP white paper proposing the indy vote,
https://www.gov.scot/publications/scotlands-future/
The relevant passage is,
If we vote No, Scotland stands still. A once in a generation opportunity to follow a different path, and choose a new and better direction for our nation, is lost. Decisions about Scotland would remain in the hands of others. |
Unlucky.
‘Ferret Fact Service verdict: Mostly False
Douglas Ross is incorrect in his claim that Nicola Sturgeon signed an agreement that the Scottish independence referendum would be a “once in a generation” vote. The ‘Edinburgh agreement’ that allowed Scotland to hold the 2014 vote did not mention any timescale for another referendum. ‘
Please note the last sentence.
Yes the term was used on both sides to focus minds but its not in the actual agreement.
Democracy did not end in 2014. | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:52 - Oct 25 with 1660 views | Catullus |
| UK breaking up on 21:42 - Oct 25 by Kilkennyjack |
Unlucky.
‘Ferret Fact Service verdict: Mostly False
Douglas Ross is incorrect in his claim that Nicola Sturgeon signed an agreement that the Scottish independence referendum would be a “once in a generation” vote. The ‘Edinburgh agreement’ that allowed Scotland to hold the 2014 vote did not mention any timescale for another referendum. ‘
Please note the last sentence.
Yes the term was used on both sides to focus minds but its not in the actual agreement.
Democracy did not end in 2014. |
So you are saying the Scottish government lied then and never intended it be a once in a generation vote?
They sold it to the people and the Scottish parliament as once in a generation, they told everybody once in a generation but then left it out of the agreement so they could backtrack.
PS, I am not unlucky, I said it was in the white paper and indeed it was which makes you unlucky...and wrong.
Where did I ever mention Douglas Ross?
Still making it up as you go along. Don't ever change  | |
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| UK breaking up on 22:11 - Oct 25 with 1646 views | Catullus |
| UK breaking up on 21:57 - Oct 25 by Kilkennyjack |
Where does it say it ? |
Yet again.....once more for the crowd....I said it was in the white paper, which it was. You even admitted both sides said it was once in a generation.
Funny how that is acceptable to you because if it was Bojo, or any other UK PM you'd be calling them liars and saying they should go to prison. | |
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| UK breaking up on 22:34 - Oct 25 with 1635 views | Kilkennyjack |
| UK breaking up on 22:11 - Oct 25 by Catullus |
Yet again.....once more for the crowd....I said it was in the white paper, which it was. You even admitted both sides said it was once in a generation.
Funny how that is acceptable to you because if it was Bojo, or any other UK PM you'd be calling them liars and saying they should go to prison. |
Right then - we are agreed that its not in the signed agreement - which is the only thing that actually matters after all. No need to apologise.
Yes i would happily want Johnson on trial for both electoral fraud for Brexit, and being unfit for public office for the use of herd immunity which resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths. Lock him up. | |
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| UK breaking up on 09:16 - Oct 26 with 1585 views | felixstowe_jack |
| UK breaking up on 22:34 - Oct 25 by Kilkennyjack |
Right then - we are agreed that its not in the signed agreement - which is the only thing that actually matters after all. No need to apologise.
Yes i would happily want Johnson on trial for both electoral fraud for Brexit, and being unfit for public office for the use of herd immunity which resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths. Lock him up. |
You really do not get democracy do you.
Scotland voted to remain in UK
The UK voted to leave the EU
Wales voted to leave the EU
Only 24% of the Welsh population want independence
The conservatives were elected to rule the UK with 43% of the vote
Labour were elected to run the Welsh Assembly with 33 of the vote.
Still you peddle your undemocratic nonsense which says we must all ignore any democratic voting system.
We must be ruled by the undemocratic EU where none of the 28 commissioners names ever appeared on a ballot paper as well as the president of the commission who was appointed . | |
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| UK breaking up (n/t) on 10:04 - Oct 26 with 1561 views | onehunglow |
| UK breaking up on 19:23 - Oct 25 by Kilkennyjack |
She would still do a better job than posh boy Tory toffs who dont know the price of milk.
The people of Scotland will decide.
The UK is not a prison. |
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| UK breaking up (n/t) on 10:05 - Oct 26 with 1560 views | onehunglow |
| UK breaking up (n/t) on 10:04 - Oct 26 by onehunglow |
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What constitutes a toff.?
I just want to check if there any in my family . | |
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| UK breaking up on 10:09 - Oct 26 with 1558 views | Jack11 |
Oh great, more we’ll vote until we get what we want merchants. Bore off. | | | |
| UK breaking up on 10:14 - Oct 26 with 1551 views | onehunglow |
| UK breaking up on 09:16 - Oct 26 by felixstowe_jack |
You really do not get democracy do you.
Scotland voted to remain in UK
The UK voted to leave the EU
Wales voted to leave the EU
Only 24% of the Welsh population want independence
The conservatives were elected to rule the UK with 43% of the vote
Labour were elected to run the Welsh Assembly with 33 of the vote.
Still you peddle your undemocratic nonsense which says we must all ignore any democratic voting system.
We must be ruled by the undemocratic EU where none of the 28 commissioners names ever appeared on a ballot paper as well as the president of the commission who was appointed . |
This was the problem in Northern Ireland where the bomb was used to force the issue against the wishes of the majority. | |
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| UK breaking up on 10:21 - Oct 26 with 1550 views | felixstowe_jack |
| UK breaking up on 10:14 - Oct 26 by onehunglow |
This was the problem in Northern Ireland where the bomb was used to force the issue against the wishes of the majority. |
Yes they did try but fortunately the Britrish army defeated the IRA who were taking so many casualties they could no longer find enough volunteers or paid mercenaries to continue the fight and had to accept a peaceful solution in which NI remains in the UK | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:53 - Oct 26 with 1501 views | Catullus |
| UK breaking up on 09:16 - Oct 26 by felixstowe_jack |
You really do not get democracy do you.
Scotland voted to remain in UK
The UK voted to leave the EU
Wales voted to leave the EU
Only 24% of the Welsh population want independence
The conservatives were elected to rule the UK with 43% of the vote
Labour were elected to run the Welsh Assembly with 33 of the vote.
Still you peddle your undemocratic nonsense which says we must all ignore any democratic voting system.
We must be ruled by the undemocratic EU where none of the 28 commissioners names ever appeared on a ballot paper as well as the president of the commission who was appointed . |
He believes in the version of democracy whereby as long as we all only vote for what he wants it can count.
Any other version of democracy is, in his head, clearly anti democratic, illegal and should be ignored.
He's like Pikey's alter ego. | |
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| UK breaking up on 14:52 - Oct 27 with 1458 views | trampie |
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| UK breaking up on 15:05 - Oct 27 with 1452 views | Catullus |
| UK breaking up on 14:52 - Oct 27 by trampie |
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How many seats do they have in the Senedd? How many voted for them?
Hang on...
Senedd 0 of 60
House of Commons 0 of 40 Welsh seats
Local government 1 of 1,264
How irrelevant does it have to get? Their membership is only around 1,500, I'm surprised they managed a local council seat. | |
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| UK breaking up on 15:08 - Oct 27 with 1451 views | Boundy |
| UK breaking up on 15:05 - Oct 27 by Catullus |
How many seats do they have in the Senedd? How many voted for them?
Hang on...
Senedd 0 of 60
House of Commons 0 of 40 Welsh seats
Local government 1 of 1,264
How irrelevant does it have to get? Their membership is only around 1,500, I'm surprised they managed a local council seat. |
They squat | |
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| UK breaking up on 23:50 - Oct 27 with 1410 views | Kilkennyjack |
| UK breaking up on 10:21 - Oct 26 by felixstowe_jack |
Yes they did try but fortunately the Britrish army defeated the IRA who were taking so many casualties they could no longer find enough volunteers or paid mercenaries to continue the fight and had to accept a peaceful solution in which NI remains in the UK |
At the peak of the Troubles some 21,000 british troops were deployed in the north of Ireland.
All paid professional soldiers.
Today its just 5,000.
Still 5,000 too many.
Less troops means less trouble for everyone, simple.
Well done to Blair, Clinton and the rest.
The peace in the north of ireland belongs to all of us.
There were no winners, you stupid man.
Left to cowards like you, there would never be a peace.
Brave men delivered the peace, and thats that.
Brexit will push the north of Ireland out of the UK.
Fact. | |
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