| UK breaking up on 20:38 - Oct 28 with 805 views | Kilkennyjack |
| UK breaking up on 15:47 - Oct 28 by Boundy |
Well once the Nats have their petulant way , is this the best we can hope for . Endless serving of tea and welsh cakes and little else
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Ow grandad - sit down mun ....
Have a look at how a real Welshman views the world.
Your views of your own nation have been fashioned by the 1970s BBC and the Sun. Think mun !!
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| UK breaking up on 20:45 - Oct 28 with 798 views | Catullus |
| UK breaking up on 16:53 - Oct 28 by trampie |
During the bogside massacre carried out by paratroopers lots of unarmed civilians killed were teengers most shot in the back protesting against internment, some were said to have been executed on the ground having been shot and then shot again whist injured, some were shot going to the aid of others, one was shot in the back of the head whilst waving a white handkerchief and going to the aid of a victim.
I know a Irishman that told me that forces of the crown had taken every male over the age of 8 out of their homes tortured them and executed them less than 200 years ago (at the time) in the place he was from, ss stormtroopers wore uniforms don't forget and was Adams a traitor ?, why was he walking the streets when others weren't ? if the state wanted rid of people by hook or by crook they got rid of them, don't forget human rights lawyers were eliminated but Adams still walking the streets and McGuiness meeting the Queen !, I might have been born at night but it wasn't last night. |
Lots you say, 26 were shot and 14 died. The Omagh bombing killed 29 men women and children out doing shopping, not protesting. Oh, and don't forget anywhere from 220-300 were injured too.
What happened 200 years before is irrelevant, different times, different laws.
PS, The IRA also operated the "S-Plan" during WW2 attacking civil and military targets while we were fighting Hitler.
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| UK breaking up on 20:53 - Oct 28 with 787 views | trampie |
Yes lots, the crown should have tried to have taken the moral high ground but failed. |  |
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| UK breaking up on 20:56 - Oct 28 with 784 views | Catullus |
| UK breaking up on 20:53 - Oct 28 by trampie |
Yes lots, the crown should have tried to have taken the moral high ground but failed. |
There's very little moral high ground in any armed conflict be it a world war or terrorism. However when the bar is set as low as bombing people because they go to a different church the moral high ground is about 6 foot under. | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:10 - Oct 28 with 773 views | trampie |
| UK breaking up on 20:56 - Oct 28 by Catullus |
There's very little moral high ground in any armed conflict be it a world war or terrorism. However when the bar is set as low as bombing people because they go to a different church the moral high ground is about 6 foot under. |
Britain did fantastically well on the moral high ground stakes in WW2 mind (I can think of Oran and Dresden) but all in all, Britain's conduct was one it's finest ever moments. | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:14 - Oct 28 with 771 views | Lohengrin |
| UK breaking up on 20:35 - Oct 28 by Kilkennyjack |
Not my crown.
And not John Charles’s either. |
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| UK breaking up on 21:18 - Oct 28 with 764 views | Catullus |
| UK breaking up on 21:10 - Oct 28 by trampie |
Britain did fantastically well on the moral high ground stakes in WW2 mind (I can think of Oran and Dresden) but all in all, Britain's conduct was one it's finest ever moments. |
Actually Britain got up to all sorts of dirty tricks, the LRDG, SAS (forerunners of) and the Commando's all did things that were against the rules of war.
We even had a spy ring in the USA,
https://wamu.org/story/13/11/0
There's Glucksburg castle, the London Cage, British troops committed rape in Italy and Germany.
Not much compared to the Nazi atrocities but hardly the high ground either. | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:24 - Oct 28 with 756 views | Lohengrin |
| UK breaking up on 21:18 - Oct 28 by Catullus |
Actually Britain got up to all sorts of dirty tricks, the LRDG, SAS (forerunners of) and the Commando's all did things that were against the rules of war.
We even had a spy ring in the USA,
https://wamu.org/story/13/11/0
There's Glucksburg castle, the London Cage, British troops committed rape in Italy and Germany.
Not much compared to the Nazi atrocities but hardly the high ground either. |
Without any stats to back up the assertion I’d hazard a guess there were more rapes committed in London during the blackout than by British troops in Italy and Germany combined. | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:30 - Oct 28 with 742 views | Catullus |
| UK breaking up on 21:24 - Oct 28 by Lohengrin |
Without any stats to back up the assertion I’d hazard a guess there were more rapes committed in London during the blackout than by British troops in Italy and Germany combined. |
The point still stands though, Loh, in an armed conflict there is very littel moral high ground. The fog of war hides many crimes. | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:32 - Oct 28 with 736 views | trampie |
| UK breaking up on 21:18 - Oct 28 by Catullus |
Actually Britain got up to all sorts of dirty tricks, the LRDG, SAS (forerunners of) and the Commando's all did things that were against the rules of war.
We even had a spy ring in the USA,
https://wamu.org/story/13/11/0
There's Glucksburg castle, the London Cage, British troops committed rape in Italy and Germany.
Not much compared to the Nazi atrocities but hardly the high ground either. |
The big picture, compared to every other major power Britain were angels, if you were a prisoner of war in WW2 you would want the British capturing you as you were likely to survive whereas if the other big players caught you your chances were not so good, nowhere near in some cases. | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:34 - Oct 28 with 730 views | trampie |
| UK breaking up on 21:24 - Oct 28 by Lohengrin |
Without any stats to back up the assertion I’d hazard a guess there were more rapes committed in London during the blackout than by British troops in Italy and Germany combined. |
I would guess that would be the case. | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:40 - Oct 28 with 720 views | trampie |
Talking of the S-plan, Ireland executed and jailed lots of IRA during WW2 as they were concerned that Britain would invade Ireland after they had struggled for so long to liberate most of Ireland from British rule.
Didnt the Irish and Britain have a W-plan in place incase the Germans invaded Ireland. | |
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| UK breaking up on 21:51 - Oct 28 with 705 views | Catullus |
| UK breaking up on 21:40 - Oct 28 by trampie |
Talking of the S-plan, Ireland executed and jailed lots of IRA during WW2 as they were concerned that Britain would invade Ireland after they had struggled for so long to liberate most of Ireland from British rule.
Didnt the Irish and Britain have a W-plan in place incase the Germans invaded Ireland. |
Yes but there is doubt the Nazi's were ever serious about "Operation Green" because Hitler was a wee bit obsessed with Russia! | |
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| UK breaking up on 22:06 - Oct 28 with 697 views | trampie |
| UK breaking up on 21:51 - Oct 28 by Catullus |
Yes but there is doubt the Nazi's were ever serious about "Operation Green" because Hitler was a wee bit obsessed with Russia! |
The Irish and Brits had to prepare for the possibility, so us and the Irish were going to team up for both our mutual benefit in the event of the Germans invading Ireland. | |
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| UK breaking up on 22:37 - Oct 28 with 685 views | chad |
| UK breaking up on 18:57 - Oct 28 by trampie |
EU want to take over the World, do the Americans, Russians and Chinese know this ?
Do you think a federation in Britannia could be workable, shared defence etc ? |
Don’t know if they read the Guardian, it was certainly reported there
The words of Juncker...
The European Union must turn into a major sovereign power on the global stage making the world in its image’
There was more about challenging China, to become the ascendant influence in Africa, and decisions on majority vote, but I won’t bore you with that
Not sure about a federation. If you are not in for us taking England back probably best to go our own ways. We may need our own armies for future internal inter Britannia conflicts. Just thought it may get a bit claustrophobic if we don’t take England, although surely Pen-y-Ghent is deffo ours. |  | | |
| UK breaking up on 22:47 - Oct 28 with 675 views | trampie |
| UK breaking up on 22:37 - Oct 28 by chad |
Don’t know if they read the Guardian, it was certainly reported there
The words of Juncker...
The European Union must turn into a major sovereign power on the global stage making the world in its image’
There was more about challenging China, to become the ascendant influence in Africa, and decisions on majority vote, but I won’t bore you with that
Not sure about a federation. If you are not in for us taking England back probably best to go our own ways. We may need our own armies for future internal inter Britannia conflicts. Just thought it may get a bit claustrophobic if we don’t take England, although surely Pen-y-Ghent is deffo ours. |
What about the tripartite indenture, would that be acceptable to you ? | |
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| UK breaking up on 23:17 - Oct 28 with 670 views | chad |
| UK breaking up on 22:47 - Oct 28 by trampie |
What about the tripartite indenture, would that be acceptable to you ? |
Put me in mind of mi old school hat, but that was a tricorne - boater in the summer of course
Anyway thank goodness for google, but yes that sounds reet grand ya wee loon.
Does that mean we get all of Wales, Cornwall, Devon and Somerset and everything north of the M42 including Cheshire Oaks shopping outlet and wee Jimmy Cranky’s gaff? Ideally would like Bath too but let’s not get greedy.
Excellent, will get Drakers on shutting it all down ASAP. | | | |
| UK breaking up on 10:30 - Oct 29 with 627 views | trampie |
| UK breaking up on 23:17 - Oct 28 by chad |
Put me in mind of mi old school hat, but that was a tricorne - boater in the summer of course
Anyway thank goodness for google, but yes that sounds reet grand ya wee loon.
Does that mean we get all of Wales, Cornwall, Devon and Somerset and everything north of the M42 including Cheshire Oaks shopping outlet and wee Jimmy Cranky’s gaff? Ideally would like Bath too but let’s not get greedy.
Excellent, will get Drakers on shutting it all down ASAP. |
River Mersey boundary in the North so right up to the suburbs of current day Liverpool and Manchester not far from Birmingham in the East and with the Severn been the boundary in the South right up to Worcester and Gloucester not far from Bristol, a bit of a bigger chunk than we currently occupy. [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 10:36]
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| UK breaking up on 10:34 - Oct 29 with 617 views | trampie |
If you like Chester Chad under the agreement that would be firmly in Wales and I'm sure Perch would be happy as the Wirral would be well inside Wales borders. | |
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| UK breaking up on 10:46 - Oct 29 with 603 views | CwmafanJack |
| UK breaking up on 10:21 - Oct 26 by felixstowe_jack |
Yes they did try but fortunately the Britrish army defeated the IRA who were taking so many casualties they could no longer find enough volunteers or paid mercenaries to continue the fight and had to accept a peaceful solution in which NI remains in the UK |
Biggest load of crap I've ever hered. The IRA are an undefeated army which are still going today, there are still massive numbers of the irish that dont accept the price process. 26 +6 =1. Brits out. Tiocfaidh ár lá 🇮🇪 | |
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| UK breaking up on 10:59 - Oct 29 with 597 views | raynor94 |
| UK breaking up on 10:46 - Oct 29 by CwmafanJack |
Biggest load of crap I've ever hered. The IRA are an undefeated army which are still going today, there are still massive numbers of the irish that dont accept the price process. 26 +6 =1. Brits out. Tiocfaidh ár lá 🇮🇪 |
Undefeated? The cowardly Bastards are still murdering innocent people, Lyra McKee for example.
You seem to be very proud of them. |  |
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| UK breaking up on 11:07 - Oct 29 with 581 views | felixstowe_jack |
| UK breaking up on 10:46 - Oct 29 by CwmafanJack |
Biggest load of crap I've ever hered. The IRA are an undefeated army which are still going today, there are still massive numbers of the irish that dont accept the price process. 26 +6 =1. Brits out. Tiocfaidh ár lá 🇮🇪 |
Agree your opinion of the IRA is indeed cr..
Only defeated organisation surrenders their arms.
They were nothing but a bunch of murderous criminals who were just as likely to kneecap or kill fellow Republicans who did not pay their protection money. | |
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| UK breaking up on 11:14 - Oct 29 with 574 views | CwmafanJack |
| UK breaking up on 10:59 - Oct 29 by raynor94 |
Undefeated? The cowardly Bastards are still murdering innocent people, Lyra McKee for example.
You seem to be very proud of them. |
Are you saying your proud of what the british forces have done to ireland? Theres blood on the hands of both sides but the brits should never have been there in the first place.
I dont agree with the killing of innocent civilians but it happend on both sides and you cant condemn one without the other. If the shoe was on the other foot and the french decided to invade I'd assume youd be fully supportive of the british forces standing up to them.
While ireland is partitioned there will never be piece.brits out | |
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| UK breaking up on 11:18 - Oct 29 with 567 views | felixstowe_jack |
| UK breaking up on 11:14 - Oct 29 by CwmafanJack |
Are you saying your proud of what the british forces have done to ireland? Theres blood on the hands of both sides but the brits should never have been there in the first place.
I dont agree with the killing of innocent civilians but it happend on both sides and you cant condemn one without the other. If the shoe was on the other foot and the french decided to invade I'd assume youd be fully supportive of the british forces standing up to them.
While ireland is partitioned there will never be piece.brits out |
The people of NI have voted to remain a part of the UK . There will never be peace unless people accept the democratic wishes of others. | |
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| UK breaking up on 11:19 - Oct 29 with 567 views | onehunglow |
What a joy to read thi.
Wirral in Wales.Fook me tramps.You have no idea ,butt. Bad enough being drawn into Merseyside .Wirral is historically part of Cheshire and has been for many centuries. Near where we reside is reputed to be the oldest settlement in Britain and it's in Cheshire .
Interesting though.
Probably people in Chepstow would rather be in England as is the case in Deeside. | |
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