| No future 07:57 - Dec 30 with 1292 views | trampie |
No future the English left.
The Celtic counties need to breakaway from England otherwise it will be perpetual right wing Governments in power in Westminster due to English voters weight of numbers. |  |
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| No future on 08:15 - Dec 30 with 1278 views | trampie |
Too bad that Labour had the best policies and won the argument but not the vote, the Conservatives had no idea and stole Labours policies and that there was a number done on Labour over antisemitism.
The English are a strange breed, they seem to vote for a 'brand', do they all want to be upper middle class and all expect to be that and do they associate that with the Conservative party ? when lots of them do ordinary jobs if indeed they even have a job.
The strange thing what with a lot of working class voting Conservative is that a lot of middle class voters with a conscious these days vote Labour. [Post edited 30 Dec 2020 8:19]
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| No future on 09:29 - Dec 30 with 1232 views | felixstowe_jack |
| No future on 08:15 - Dec 30 by trampie |
Too bad that Labour had the best policies and won the argument but not the vote, the Conservatives had no idea and stole Labours policies and that there was a number done on Labour over antisemitism.
The English are a strange breed, they seem to vote for a 'brand', do they all want to be upper middle class and all expect to be that and do they associate that with the Conservative party ? when lots of them do ordinary jobs if indeed they even have a job.
The strange thing what with a lot of working class voting Conservative is that a lot of middle class voters with a conscious these days vote Labour. [Post edited 30 Dec 2020 8:19]
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Labour had no policies except more misery for everyone. No one was ever going to vote for extremists like Corbyn and McDonnell. Even in Scotland labour are unpopular. Just as unpopular in Wales but too many have voted for labour for ever and will continue to do so even for the useless Drakeford and his cronies. |  |
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| No future on 09:51 - Dec 30 with 1222 views | trampie |
| No future on 09:29 - Dec 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Labour had no policies except more misery for everyone. No one was ever going to vote for extremists like Corbyn and McDonnell. Even in Scotland labour are unpopular. Just as unpopular in Wales but too many have voted for labour for ever and will continue to do so even for the useless Drakeford and his cronies. |
The Conservatives have been pinching Labours policies for years, the Green revolution being one of the recent ones, lol. | |
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| No future on 09:51 - Dec 30 with 1219 views | Kilkennyjack |
| No future on 09:29 - Dec 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Labour had no policies except more misery for everyone. No one was ever going to vote for extremists like Corbyn and McDonnell. Even in Scotland labour are unpopular. Just as unpopular in Wales but too many have voted for labour for ever and will continue to do so even for the useless Drakeford and his cronies. |
Labour could have delivered more misery than Johnson has. |  |
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| No future on 09:56 - Dec 30 with 1213 views | felixstowe_jack |
| No future on 09:51 - Dec 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Labour could have delivered more misery than Johnson has. |
Labour not delivered anything for Wales in the 20 years that thet have been in charge. Failed NHS, failed education system, gridlocked M4, poverty in all of Wales except Cardiff bubble. Time the Welsh people voted Drakeford's shower out of the Assembly. | |
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| No future on 10:19 - Dec 30 with 1204 views | onehunglow |
The Welsh are the ones who most vote for a brand,
Labour and the anti English PC.There is not other reason to vote Plaid Cymru.
Labour ? Why ,because Im working class and all my family voted Labour. Tory scum.
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| No future on 10:27 - Dec 30 with 1192 views | Kilkennyjack |
| No future on 09:56 - Dec 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Labour not delivered anything for Wales in the 20 years that thet have been in charge. Failed NHS, failed education system, gridlocked M4, poverty in all of Wales except Cardiff bubble. Time the Welsh people voted Drakeford's shower out of the Assembly. |
Under Johnson 70,000 people have died from Covid.
Germany has lost 35,000.
Almost anyone would have done better than Johnson.
Even you Felix. | |
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| No future on 10:27 - Dec 30 with 1195 views | trampie |
| No future on 10:19 - Dec 30 by onehunglow |
The Welsh are the ones who most vote for a brand,
Labour and the anti English PC.There is not other reason to vote Plaid Cymru.
Labour ? Why ,because Im working class and all my family voted Labour. Tory scum.
Innit. |
The Welsh vote the way they believe, the English don't, when the English are asked what policies they like they like Labour policies but all the same they still vote Conservative, strange but there you go. | |
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| No future on 10:35 - Dec 30 with 1191 views | onehunglow |
There's only you and Killy to argue with.The interlopers seem to be disinterested in real topics.
At least you have the mindset to state your case. | |
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| No future on 13:11 - Dec 30 with 1138 views | Treforys_Jack |
| No future on 10:35 - Dec 30 by onehunglow |
There's only you and Killy to argue with.The interlopers seem to be disinterested in real topics.
At least you have the mindset to state your case. |
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| No future on 13:18 - Dec 30 with 1116 views | onehunglow |
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| No future on 14:54 - Dec 30 with 1093 views | felixstowe_jack |
| No future on 10:27 - Dec 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Under Johnson 70,000 people have died from Covid.
Germany has lost 35,000.
Almost anyone would have done better than Johnson.
Even you Felix. |
And an even higher death rate in labour run wales . Even you can see that. | |
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| No future on 14:57 - Dec 30 with 1089 views | felixstowe_jack |
| No future on 10:27 - Dec 30 by trampie |
The Welsh vote the way they believe, the English don't, when the English are asked what policies they like they like Labour policies but all the same they still vote Conservative, strange but there you go. |
Think you will find the people in England are happy to the way they vote based on policies. That is why labour came to power several times and even the liberals had periods when they got large numbers of votes.
Meanwhile in Wales the Welsh vote labour no matter how bad labour are. | |
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| No future on 17:30 - Dec 30 with 1038 views | Boundy |
| No future on 14:57 - Dec 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Think you will find the people in England are happy to the way they vote based on policies. That is why labour came to power several times and even the liberals had periods when they got large numbers of votes.
Meanwhile in Wales the Welsh vote labour no matter how bad labour are. |
Labour the party of the working class not now they're not , Blair, Brown Brexit with an aim to have second referendum , Corbyn non committal whilst sitting on the fence ,collapse of the vote in Scotland have all contributed to the decline of the labour vote . | |
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| No future on 18:10 - Dec 30 with 1016 views | onehunglow |
Corbyn is as far away from the working class as Boris .
Just who really puts class first/
A rhetorical question naturally | |
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| No future on 18:49 - Dec 30 with 1001 views | Catullus |
Had the best policies and won the argument? Oh no, they very much lost the argument as proved by the result. Saying otherwise is delusional. | |
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| No future on 17:26 - Dec 31 with 927 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| No future on 09:51 - Dec 30 by trampie |
The Conservatives have been pinching Labours policies for years, the Green revolution being one of the recent ones, lol. |
You mean the Green party Policies and then the Liberal party policies and now the Labour and the Conservative party policies. | | | |
| No future on 14:26 - Jan 1 with 843 views | Catullus |
| No future on 17:26 - Dec 31 by A_Fans_Dad |
You mean the Green party Policies and then the Liberal party policies and now the Labour and the Conservative party policies. |
Thing is, you can't copyright a policy, if it looks like a good idea you can expect other parties to take a look and possibly adopt the idea.
In the long run it should be about what's best for the whole country, I don't care who has a good idea or which government implements a good idea. I just wish the politicians wouldn't keep on making a mess of good ideas or having really bad ideas and keeping going with them even when it's obvious the people hate them, like HS2.
I just wish a government would have the balls to say we remain committed to NATO but we're wcrapping nuclear weapons. Even if NATo fell apart I'd rather strike some kind of deal with the USA whereby we pay a certain amount to them for a nuclear umbrella. With the money from nukes we could see extra payments towards our national debt and still have billions to invest in the country. trident will cost approx 205 billion over 25 years (that's the projection, it might cost a lot more) 3 billion per year towards debt and 5 billion to invest. Or maybe even a one off lump payment, for Wales that could be 30 billion. | |
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| No future on 11:01 - Jan 2 with 771 views | onehunglow |
| No future on 14:26 - Jan 1 by Catullus |
Thing is, you can't copyright a policy, if it looks like a good idea you can expect other parties to take a look and possibly adopt the idea.
In the long run it should be about what's best for the whole country, I don't care who has a good idea or which government implements a good idea. I just wish the politicians wouldn't keep on making a mess of good ideas or having really bad ideas and keeping going with them even when it's obvious the people hate them, like HS2.
I just wish a government would have the balls to say we remain committed to NATO but we're wcrapping nuclear weapons. Even if NATo fell apart I'd rather strike some kind of deal with the USA whereby we pay a certain amount to them for a nuclear umbrella. With the money from nukes we could see extra payments towards our national debt and still have billions to invest in the country. trident will cost approx 205 billion over 25 years (that's the projection, it might cost a lot more) 3 billion per year towards debt and 5 billion to invest. Or maybe even a one off lump payment, for Wales that could be 30 billion. |
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| No future on 11:25 - Jan 2 with 752 views | trampie |
| No future on 14:26 - Jan 1 by Catullus |
Thing is, you can't copyright a policy, if it looks like a good idea you can expect other parties to take a look and possibly adopt the idea.
In the long run it should be about what's best for the whole country, I don't care who has a good idea or which government implements a good idea. I just wish the politicians wouldn't keep on making a mess of good ideas or having really bad ideas and keeping going with them even when it's obvious the people hate them, like HS2.
I just wish a government would have the balls to say we remain committed to NATO but we're wcrapping nuclear weapons. Even if NATo fell apart I'd rather strike some kind of deal with the USA whereby we pay a certain amount to them for a nuclear umbrella. With the money from nukes we could see extra payments towards our national debt and still have billions to invest in the country. trident will cost approx 205 billion over 25 years (that's the projection, it might cost a lot more) 3 billion per year towards debt and 5 billion to invest. Or maybe even a one off lump payment, for Wales that could be 30 billion. |
Paying the Americans is no good they were fighting the crown back in the day.
In fairly recent times the Yanks were said to be going to nuclear bomb us off the face of the earth during the cold war if the Warsaw pact countries invaded the West they reckoned they would reach the channel ports in days and then the Americans would have nuclear bombed us to stop the Russians using Blighty as as launching pad for their nuclear missiles to hit the USA, as their missiles would not reach from Eastern Europe but some would from Britain.
Don't trust the Yanks with our safety, they are no friends of ours. [Post edited 2 Jan 2021 14:05]
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| No future on 14:18 - Jan 2 with 720 views | Catullus |
| No future on 11:25 - Jan 2 by trampie |
Paying the Americans is no good they were fighting the crown back in the day.
In fairly recent times the Yanks were said to be going to nuclear bomb us off the face of the earth during the cold war if the Warsaw pact countries invaded the West they reckoned they would reach the channel ports in days and then the Americans would have nuclear bombed us to stop the Russians using Blighty as as launching pad for their nuclear missiles to hit the USA, as their missiles would not reach from Eastern Europe but some would from Britain.
Don't trust the Yanks with our safety, they are no friends of ours. [Post edited 2 Jan 2021 14:05]
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That is pure nonsense, the Russians could already reach the USA with their nukes hence the 4 minute warning.
If there was an invasion the Yanks would need the UK again, as in WW2 for a staging post to launch the fight back.
As soon as the first nukes was launched it wouldn't matter either way, we'd all have lost.
This is another thread based on xenophobia though, another anti English rant where you say the Celtic nations need to free ourselves from the English. | |
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| No future on 14:54 - Jan 2 with 706 views | trampie |
| No future on 14:18 - Jan 2 by Catullus |
That is pure nonsense, the Russians could already reach the USA with their nukes hence the 4 minute warning.
If there was an invasion the Yanks would need the UK again, as in WW2 for a staging post to launch the fight back.
As soon as the first nukes was launched it wouldn't matter either way, we'd all have lost.
This is another thread based on xenophobia though, another anti English rant where you say the Celtic nations need to free ourselves from the English. |
No future for the English left is an observation on an Al Jazeera article.
The 4 minute warning was a British warning to its people. | |
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