Right wing taking over 09:26 - Jan 19 with 2303 views | trampie |
The Right wing control the majority of the newspapers in the UK and Right wing is now on the verge of controlling TV news in the UK. | |
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Right wing taking over on 09:29 - Jan 19 with 1296 views | felixstowe_jack | Left wing are in charge in Wales. | |
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Right wing taking over on 09:54 - Jan 19 with 1273 views | trampie |
Right wing taking over on 09:29 - Jan 19 by felixstowe_jack | Left wing are in charge in Wales. |
Daily Mail, The Sun, Daily Star and Daily Express would be among the biggest selling newspapers in Wales just like in England. BBC, Sky, etc broadcaster in Wales just like they do in England and the rest of the UK. | |
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Right wing taking over on 10:07 - Jan 19 with 1253 views | felixstowe_jack | All those newspapers are right of centre correct and are representative of the majority of people in the UK. | |
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Right wing taking over on 10:09 - Jan 19 with 1249 views | trampie |
Right wing taking over on 10:07 - Jan 19 by felixstowe_jack | All those newspapers are right of centre correct and are representative of the majority of people in the UK. |
That is why Wales should breakaway from England, to avoid perpetual right wing Governments, England is a lost cause. | |
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Right wing taking over on 10:16 - Jan 19 with 1238 views | felixstowe_jack |
Right wing taking over on 10:09 - Jan 19 by trampie | That is why Wales should breakaway from England, to avoid perpetual right wing Governments, England is a lost cause. |
Only 25% of welsh people believe they would be better of under a left wing labour government as the polls show. It will probably be even less after Drakeford's appalling decision not to vaccinate his country men The Other 75% realise they are and will be better of under a wealth creating government which subsidies the poor regions of the UK. | |
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Right wing taking over on 10:24 - Jan 19 with 1232 views | onehunglow |
Right wing taking over on 09:29 - Jan 19 by felixstowe_jack | Left wing are in charge in Wales. |
and doing a sterling job too.Not Poorest part of the UK ,worst NHS that is often reliant on England . Wales is ok if you have money,retired and speak Welsh .That way,you can preach to everyone else whilst at the same time,slagging off the vile tory scum to your chums from the comfort of your expansive home. Hypocrites was it? | |
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Right wing taking over on 10:28 - Jan 19 with 1218 views | trampie |
Right wing taking over on 10:16 - Jan 19 by felixstowe_jack | Only 25% of welsh people believe they would be better of under a left wing labour government as the polls show. It will probably be even less after Drakeford's appalling decision not to vaccinate his country men The Other 75% realise they are and will be better of under a wealth creating government which subsidies the poor regions of the UK. |
Over 50% of the Welsh electorate at the last General Election voted for Corbyns Labour and Plaid Cymru, you could add the Green party to that as well. Well over 50% of the electorate voted for Welsh Labour and Plaid Cymru at the last Senedd elections in 2016 also. | |
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Right wing taking over on 10:31 - Jan 19 with 1207 views | Joe_bradshaw |
Right wing taking over on 10:28 - Jan 19 by trampie | Over 50% of the Welsh electorate at the last General Election voted for Corbyns Labour and Plaid Cymru, you could add the Green party to that as well. Well over 50% of the electorate voted for Welsh Labour and Plaid Cymru at the last Senedd elections in 2016 also. |
Why are you lumping in red Tories with Plaid? | |
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Right wing taking over on 10:40 - Jan 19 with 1204 views | onehunglow |
Right wing taking over on 10:31 - Jan 19 by Joe_bradshaw | Why are you lumping in red Tories with Plaid? |
Because if it's not Welsh ,it's no good. I wish we did have a right wing government,one with some balls,one that could shut our borders when threatened and one that protected its people and culture first. I wish we had a right wing government that saw us give victims of crime justice and a police force that wasn't a craven home for PC clowns in uniform. We have the polar opposite of a right wing authority | |
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Right wing taking over on 11:08 - Jan 19 with 1183 views | Catullus |
Right wing taking over on 10:28 - Jan 19 by trampie | Over 50% of the Welsh electorate at the last General Election voted for Corbyns Labour and Plaid Cymru, you could add the Green party to that as well. Well over 50% of the electorate voted for Welsh Labour and Plaid Cymru at the last Senedd elections in 2016 also. |
That's a misrepresentation, I could say a lie. Labour and Plaid together got 50.8% of the vote but on a 66.6% turnout Labour support was down 8% and Plaid lost 0.5% with the tories gaining 2.5%. You might suppose the tories are gaining traction in Wales and Labour are slipping away. There are (or were) roughly 2,314,000 registered voters in Wales (for Westminster elections) so with Labout and Plaid getting a combined vote of roughly 786,000 they actually got around 34% of the Welsh vote. Now then, what they actually got was 50.8% of those who bothered to vote but if 50.8 is well over 50% ...no, it's not, is it? Well over would be 56/57% PS, it's not like the left have mich to crow about, https://sites.fas.harvard.edu/~hpcws/asreview.htm [Post edited 19 Jan 2021 11:16]
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Right wing taking over on 12:12 - Jan 19 with 1162 views | trampie |
Right wing taking over on 11:08 - Jan 19 by Catullus | That's a misrepresentation, I could say a lie. Labour and Plaid together got 50.8% of the vote but on a 66.6% turnout Labour support was down 8% and Plaid lost 0.5% with the tories gaining 2.5%. You might suppose the tories are gaining traction in Wales and Labour are slipping away. There are (or were) roughly 2,314,000 registered voters in Wales (for Westminster elections) so with Labout and Plaid getting a combined vote of roughly 786,000 they actually got around 34% of the Welsh vote. Now then, what they actually got was 50.8% of those who bothered to vote but if 50.8 is well over 50% ...no, it's not, is it? Well over would be 56/57% PS, it's not like the left have mich to crow about, https://sites.fas.harvard.edu/~hpcws/asreview.htm [Post edited 19 Jan 2021 11:16]
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What I said was correct, percentage of electorate. It cuts both ways as regards percentage of eligible voters or percentage of total population, if you want to look at it from that perspective for every single election then carry on but do it every time, it's a nonsense looking at it like that as in most elections it's only the votes cast that is the be all and end all. | |
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Right wing taking over on 12:20 - Jan 19 with 1153 views | KeithHaynes | I agree, Hourihane and Morris both better on the right. | |
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Right wing taking over on 12:23 - Jan 19 with 1144 views | Highjack | Trample what do you think of Jayne Ludlow leaving her post as Wales manager? Koeman is wobbling a bit at Barca, do you think she’ll be headhunted? | |
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Right wing taking over on 12:25 - Jan 19 with 1137 views | trampie |
Right wing taking over on 12:23 - Jan 19 by Highjack | Trample what do you think of Jayne Ludlow leaving her post as Wales manager? Koeman is wobbling a bit at Barca, do you think she’ll be headhunted? |
I'm sad to see her go. | |
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Right wing taking over on 12:27 - Jan 19 with 1134 views | Highjack |
Right wing taking over on 12:25 - Jan 19 by trampie | I'm sad to see her go. |
She is a quite brilliant manager. I think she’ll win the champions league within five years. | |
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Right wing taking over on 13:03 - Jan 19 with 1106 views | trampie |
Right wing taking over on 12:27 - Jan 19 by Highjack | She is a quite brilliant manager. I think she’ll win the champions league within five years. |
Only if she gets a job with a top French, German or possibly Swedish team or at a push an English team with rich owners who are able to fill their team full of American and Norwegian internationals. | |
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Right wing taking over on 13:29 - Jan 19 with 1089 views | Catullus |
Right wing taking over on 12:12 - Jan 19 by trampie | What I said was correct, percentage of electorate. It cuts both ways as regards percentage of eligible voters or percentage of total population, if you want to look at it from that perspective for every single election then carry on but do it every time, it's a nonsense looking at it like that as in most elections it's only the votes cast that is the be all and end all. |
What you said wasn't correct. Togtehr those parties got 50.8% of those who bothered to vote. Over 33% of the electorate didn't vote. Can you see the difference. 50.8% of the electorate is just over 1,683,500 whereas they actually got about 785,000, less than half of your claim. They got about 34% of the registered voters, not 50.8% It doesn't cut both ways, only votes cast count but you can't use the percentage who voted and say it was of the entire electorate, it's disingenuous at best. | |
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Right wing taking over on 13:32 - Jan 19 with 1089 views | trampie |
Right wing taking over on 13:29 - Jan 19 by Catullus | What you said wasn't correct. Togtehr those parties got 50.8% of those who bothered to vote. Over 33% of the electorate didn't vote. Can you see the difference. 50.8% of the electorate is just over 1,683,500 whereas they actually got about 785,000, less than half of your claim. They got about 34% of the registered voters, not 50.8% It doesn't cut both ways, only votes cast count but you can't use the percentage who voted and say it was of the entire electorate, it's disingenuous at best. |
What did I say that you think is not correct ? | |
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Right wing taking over on 13:57 - Jan 19 with 1069 views | Catullus |
Right wing taking over on 13:32 - Jan 19 by trampie | What did I say that you think is not correct ? |
This is what you said, "Over 50% of the Welsh electorate at the last General Election voted for Corbyns Labour and Plaid Cymru" They got 50.8% of those who voted, not the whole electorate. You dress it up to make the left sound better supported than they were. The tories got 557,000 votes which is only 75000 fewer votes than Labour, in Wales that is a massive turnaround. I don't see that support growing but if it did it wouldn't take much for the tories to win in Wales. In the last Senedd elections there was a 45% turnout of an electorate of 2,248,000. If that stat stayed the same next time and all those tory voters stayed with the tories, they would win at the Senedd. Again I don't see it happening but Labour support in Wales has definitely dropped. | |
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Right wing taking over on 14:15 - Jan 19 with 1068 views | onehunglow |
Right wing taking over on 13:57 - Jan 19 by Catullus | This is what you said, "Over 50% of the Welsh electorate at the last General Election voted for Corbyns Labour and Plaid Cymru" They got 50.8% of those who voted, not the whole electorate. You dress it up to make the left sound better supported than they were. The tories got 557,000 votes which is only 75000 fewer votes than Labour, in Wales that is a massive turnaround. I don't see that support growing but if it did it wouldn't take much for the tories to win in Wales. In the last Senedd elections there was a 45% turnout of an electorate of 2,248,000. If that stat stayed the same next time and all those tory voters stayed with the tories, they would win at the Senedd. Again I don't see it happening but Labour support in Wales has definitely dropped. |
On second thoughts lefty states far tougher on individual freedom and all that that entails. I could see no jobs being available at all in a Plaid Government for anyone not peaking Welsh. Anyone not speaking Welsh might as well get the fark out of such a crackport country of clowns living 600 yrs in the past. Im glad thee people are not from my home city.Jacks have more sense. | |
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Right wing taking over on 14:27 - Jan 19 with 1053 views | trampie |
Right wing taking over on 13:57 - Jan 19 by Catullus | This is what you said, "Over 50% of the Welsh electorate at the last General Election voted for Corbyns Labour and Plaid Cymru" They got 50.8% of those who voted, not the whole electorate. You dress it up to make the left sound better supported than they were. The tories got 557,000 votes which is only 75000 fewer votes than Labour, in Wales that is a massive turnaround. I don't see that support growing but if it did it wouldn't take much for the tories to win in Wales. In the last Senedd elections there was a 45% turnout of an electorate of 2,248,000. If that stat stayed the same next time and all those tory voters stayed with the tories, they would win at the Senedd. Again I don't see it happening but Labour support in Wales has definitely dropped. |
I called them Welsh electorate deliberately because I'm referring to the people that voted, I'm not referring to babies in pushchairs. I've told you before today it's a nonsense to look at people that don't vote as our system most of the time only counts people that do vote, I've told you to look at what percentage of the vote the UK Conservative Government gets in General Elections in response to this nonsense you keep bringing up (taking every voter or the whole population into consideration) when you question the validity of election results you don't like. | |
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Right wing taking over on 14:48 - Jan 19 with 1035 views | Catullus |
Right wing taking over on 14:27 - Jan 19 by trampie | I called them Welsh electorate deliberately because I'm referring to the people that voted, I'm not referring to babies in pushchairs. I've told you before today it's a nonsense to look at people that don't vote as our system most of the time only counts people that do vote, I've told you to look at what percentage of the vote the UK Conservative Government gets in General Elections in response to this nonsense you keep bringing up (taking every voter or the whole population into consideration) when you question the validity of election results you don't like. |
You seriously can't see it. 50.8% of the Welsh electorate is twice as many people as voted for Labour and Plaid. Babies are not of the electorate as they can't vote. The electorate is the registered voters. Even then only those who vote will matter. What you said quite literally doubles the number of people who actually votd for Labour and Plaid. They got the support of34% of the Welsh electorate, not 50.8. That is a stark, staring mathematical fact not a nonsense. Welsh votes cast in 2019 1,544,347 whereas 50% of the Welsh electorate is over 1.2 million. If you still cannot see it.... PS, it's not myself who questions the validity of results I don't like. Unless you can provide proof of that , go on, can you? [Post edited 19 Jan 2021 14:50]
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Right wing taking over on 15:02 - Jan 19 with 1017 views | trampie |
Right wing taking over on 14:15 - Jan 19 by onehunglow | On second thoughts lefty states far tougher on individual freedom and all that that entails. I could see no jobs being available at all in a Plaid Government for anyone not peaking Welsh. Anyone not speaking Welsh might as well get the fark out of such a crackport country of clowns living 600 yrs in the past. Im glad thee people are not from my home city.Jacks have more sense. |
Loads in Plaid don't speak Welsh, lots of non Welsh speakers in Plaid are Welsh born and bred and lots of non Welsh speakers in Plaid are English born, Leanne Wood does not speak Welsh and she was leader of Plaid Cymru for a good few years. | |
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Right wing taking over on 16:20 - Jan 19 with 1000 views | KeithHaynes |
Right wing taking over on 12:27 - Jan 19 by Highjack | She is a quite brilliant manager. I think she’ll win the champions league within five years. |
A woman in charge of a men’s team, I would like to see that. A lot. | |
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