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Academy Downgrade 12:13 - Feb 9 with 4093 views34dfgdf54

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Not a lot in the article to be honest, Winter and Birch were the driving force behind the downgrade according to owners.

Anyhow, what is the lack of success down to this year? Younger side playing against older and more experienced players or just sheer quality. Looks to be a year where Cardiff have a bit more quality in their ranks which hasn't been the case for a while.

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Academy Downgrade on 11:43 - Feb 11 with 1274 viewsReslovenSwan1

Academy Downgrade on 11:02 - Feb 11 by 34dfgdf54



15 year old scored the equaliser.


The logic of playing 17 year olds in u23 games and 15 year olds in u18 is lost on me. Playing 15 year olds in u23 games seems odd. No point talking about CAt 1. Swasnea cannot even find enough players for Cat 2. it seems.

Cameron Evans Ollie Cooper and until his injury Cullen are not playing competetive football jut training and the odd FA cup cameo. The 20-21 age group goes to the first team squad or on loan with Jack Evans and Joe Lewis released. The academy have skipped one age class.

I see Daniel Williams and Cameron Evans were reintegrated perhaps explaining a better result. Two triallists as well.
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Academy Downgrade on 12:07 - Feb 11 with 1261 viewsjasper_T

Academy Downgrade on 11:43 - Feb 11 by ReslovenSwan1

The logic of playing 17 year olds in u23 games and 15 year olds in u18 is lost on me. Playing 15 year olds in u23 games seems odd. No point talking about CAt 1. Swasnea cannot even find enough players for Cat 2. it seems.

Cameron Evans Ollie Cooper and until his injury Cullen are not playing competetive football jut training and the odd FA cup cameo. The 20-21 age group goes to the first team squad or on loan with Jack Evans and Joe Lewis released. The academy have skipped one age class.

I see Daniel Williams and Cameron Evans were reintegrated perhaps explaining a better result. Two triallists as well.
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Definitely short on bodies. Previous fixture cancelled because we couldn't fulfil it. Even with injuries and potential covid issues it's not great to be caught this short.

Ben Lloyd is one I've been aware of for a while. There's high hopes for that u16s class. Ideally you're always going to have players capable of playing up a level (or two) and shouldn't hold them back but you want some competition for those places as well. Haven't heard anything about who the trialists are.

Jack Evans made his debut with Newport on Tuesday, played an hour in another poor loss for them. They're struggling to play any football on their cabbage patch since our Brandon and Scott Twine left. Joe Lewis playing every minute with Torquay from what I've seen. Good for the lads to get their senior careers moving forward.
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Academy Downgrade on 18:28 - Feb 11 with 1223 viewsTreforys_Jack

I understand virtually all our scholars were released this week.
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Academy Downgrade on 22:15 - Feb 11 with 1198 viewsKilkennyjack

Academy Downgrade on 18:28 - Feb 11 by Treforys_Jack

I understand virtually all our scholars were released this week.


Is our Academy model now to take in young players released or loaned from the top clubs ?

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Academy Downgrade on 23:07 - Feb 11 with 1192 viewsTreforys_Jack

Academy Downgrade on 22:15 - Feb 11 by Kilkennyjack

Is our Academy model now to take in young players released or loaned from the top clubs ?


From what I understand, that's exactly what it is, especially with the new guy there using his previous club connections.
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Academy Downgrade on 07:41 - Feb 12 with 1154 views34dfgdf54

Academy Downgrade on 18:28 - Feb 11 by Treforys_Jack

I understand virtually all our scholars were released this week.


Pardon my ignorance but who are classed as scholars? Wouldn't that be the promising batch of U16s Jasper was on about? Who haven't signed pro terms yet.
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Academy Downgrade on 09:53 - Feb 12 with 1130 viewsjasper_T

Academy Downgrade on 07:41 - Feb 12 by 34dfgdf54

Pardon my ignorance but who are classed as scholars? Wouldn't that be the promising batch of U16s Jasper was on about? Who haven't signed pro terms yet.


Scholars are players in the u17 and u18 groups, that gap between schoolboys and signing professional terms.
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Academy Downgrade on 11:16 - Feb 12 with 1112 views34dfgdf54

Academy Downgrade on 23:07 - Feb 11 by Treforys_Jack

From what I understand, that's exactly what it is, especially with the new guy there using his previous club connections.


I'd be disappointed if that was the case to be honest.

What year is Bony's lads in?
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Academy Downgrade on 11:18 - Feb 12 with 1107 viewsjasper_T

Academy Downgrade on 11:16 - Feb 12 by 34dfgdf54

I'd be disappointed if that was the case to be honest.

What year is Bony's lads in?


Geoffroy's u16s and Orphee u14s, I'm pretty sure.
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Academy Downgrade on 11:44 - Feb 12 with 1094 viewsChief

Academy Downgrade on 18:28 - Feb 11 by Treforys_Jack

I understand virtually all our scholars were released this week.


Oh dear. Why?

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Academy Downgrade on 11:45 - Feb 12 with 1093 viewsChief

Academy Downgrade on 23:07 - Feb 11 by Treforys_Jack

From what I understand, that's exactly what it is, especially with the new guy there using his previous club connections.


Alongside developing local players though surely!?

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Academy Downgrade on 12:24 - Feb 12 with 1079 viewsCatullus

Academy Downgrade on 11:44 - Feb 12 by Chief

Oh dear. Why?


You'd have to hope it was purely because they aren't good enough. If it's to save money it'd look short sighted and a bad decision.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Academy Downgrade on 12:46 - Feb 12 with 1069 viewsjasper_T

Academy Downgrade on 12:24 - Feb 12 by Catullus

You'd have to hope it was purely because they aren't good enough. If it's to save money it'd look short sighted and a bad decision.


Scholars don't make much of anything and half the academy coaching positions seem to be advertised on twitter at the moment. I hope "virtually all scholars" is an exaggeration, there is usually a period towards the end of each season where those not being taken on for another season are quietly moved aside but we've struggled to fulfil fixtures as it is.
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Academy Downgrade on 13:55 - Feb 12 with 1049 viewsCatullus

Academy Downgrade on 12:46 - Feb 12 by jasper_T

Scholars don't make much of anything and half the academy coaching positions seem to be advertised on twitter at the moment. I hope "virtually all scholars" is an exaggeration, there is usually a period towards the end of each season where those not being taken on for another season are quietly moved aside but we've struggled to fulfil fixtures as it is.


Lets hope it's exaggerated and we're short of players for other reasons such as illness,...though not serious illness!

We're supposedly financially stable too so financial reasons doesn't make sense.

Maybe we'll find out one day.

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Academy Downgrade on 14:38 - Feb 12 with 1041 viewsglanmORJa_k

Academy Downgrade on 13:55 - Feb 12 by Catullus

Lets hope it's exaggerated and we're short of players for other reasons such as illness,...though not serious illness!

We're supposedly financially stable too so financial reasons doesn't make sense.

Maybe we'll find out one day.


Players from the U16's backfilled the U18's last season while the playing schedule for this season's U16'S age group has only recently started.
Unlike in previous seasons, there were no youngsters brought into the U23's last summer and the decision to split the training because of the pandemic saw young pros like Cam Evans, Dan Williams and Ollie Cooper remaining in Fairwood rather than mix with the schoolboys and scholars training at Landore.

It appears that the new academy manager has acquired a bit more of a budget than Nigel Rees to an extent that a number of positions inside the academy have been advertised, Academy, Lead Sports Scientist and Academy Lead Strength and Conditioning Coach plus two Kit Assistants.
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Academy Downgrade on 16:10 - Feb 12 with 1025 viewsTreforys_Jack

Academy Downgrade on 14:38 - Feb 12 by glanmORJa_k

Players from the U16's backfilled the U18's last season while the playing schedule for this season's U16'S age group has only recently started.
Unlike in previous seasons, there were no youngsters brought into the U23's last summer and the decision to split the training because of the pandemic saw young pros like Cam Evans, Dan Williams and Ollie Cooper remaining in Fairwood rather than mix with the schoolboys and scholars training at Landore.

It appears that the new academy manager has acquired a bit more of a budget than Nigel Rees to an extent that a number of positions inside the academy have been advertised, Academy, Lead Sports Scientist and Academy Lead Strength and Conditioning Coach plus two Kit Assistants.


From what I hear the new guy is making big changes and a few are looking over their shoulders.
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Academy Downgrade on 15:05 - Feb 13 with 961 viewsjasper_T

Rubin Colwill, who looked a class above when he played against our u23s a few weeks back, on the bench for Cardiff this afternoon. 7 Welsh-qualified players in their matchday squad, 4 through their academy. Good to see things improving there.
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Academy Downgrade on 21:47 - Feb 14 with 891 viewsKilkennyjack

Academy Downgrade on 15:05 - Feb 13 by jasper_T

Rubin Colwill, who looked a class above when he played against our u23s a few weeks back, on the bench for Cardiff this afternoon. 7 Welsh-qualified players in their matchday squad, 4 through their academy. Good to see things improving there.


Agreed.

They produced Rambo and Gunter ....and then .. ?

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Academy Downgrade on 22:12 - Feb 14 with 881 viewsChief

Academy Downgrade on 21:47 - Feb 14 by Kilkennyjack

Agreed.

They produced Rambo and Gunter ....and then .. ?


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Academy Downgrade on 22:34 - Feb 14 with 869 viewsKilkennyjack

Academy Downgrade on 22:12 - Feb 14 by Chief

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Yep ....

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Academy Downgrade on 07:00 - Feb 15 with 826 viewsglanmORJa_k

Colwill is a Briton Ferry kid with a proud family background who played in the Welsh League with Briton Ferry and one wonders how he missed our scouting department. But there again we can't sign them all.
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Academy Downgrade on 08:10 - Feb 15 with 814 views34dfgdf54

Academy Downgrade on 15:05 - Feb 13 by jasper_T

Rubin Colwill, who looked a class above when he played against our u23s a few weeks back, on the bench for Cardiff this afternoon. 7 Welsh-qualified players in their matchday squad, 4 through their academy. Good to see things improving there.


He looks an absolute unit aswell for his age.
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