| Police Corruption prog tonight 12:10 - Apr 14 with 2547 views | onehunglow |
BBC 2 .on the 60 s corruption within the Met.
Fill your boots and don t get too excited |  |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:31 - Apr 15 with 631 views | YrAlarch |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:28 - Apr 15 by onehunglow |
Jae.
The Police are damned if they do or don't.
If you have a son,say,that smashes someone ,you'd want to defend him and make sure he had his rights,fed properly,given rest,and not made to feel harrassed or intimidated. You d also want to real force to effect his arrest.Anything at all remotely breaching PACE you d want to see him get off.
If your son has had his skull fractured and was on life support ,you really would not be that bothered as to how the perp was apprehended.
Massive,stinking hypocrisy and I feel me and forums are facing the end after 12 years or more.
I truly worry about the future and glad I ll be in burning hell with a few chums. |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:36 - Apr 15 with 633 views | onehunglow |
Corruption in Civil Service.Off ya go | |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:47 - Apr 15 with 616 views | Boundy |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:36 - Apr 15 by onehunglow |
Corruption in Civil Service.Off ya go |
There's corruption everywhere as its not confined to public servants . I know of cases where in private industry back handers are par for the course . If it didn't exist then why are there in a number of companies, mandatory courses to complete .In my last job we had to declare any gift or any value before it could be accepted | |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:50 - Apr 15 with 607 views | jack_lord |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:28 - Apr 15 by onehunglow |
Jae.
The Police are damned if they do or don't.
If you have a son,say,that smashes someone ,you'd want to defend him and make sure he had his rights,fed properly,given rest,and not made to feel harrassed or intimidated. You d also want to real force to effect his arrest.Anything at all remotely breaching PACE you d want to see him get off.
If your son has had his skull fractured and was on life support ,you really would not be that bothered as to how the perp was apprehended.
Massive,stinking hypocrisy and I feel me and forums are facing the end after 12 years or more.
I truly worry about the future and glad I ll be in burning hell with a few chums. |
Rich,
I understand all that. We need a police force and there are plenty of "scum" out there that most of us don't have the pleasure of bumping in to every day. The 70's was probably the right way to deal with them.
It is my view that "scum" has also tainted the forces view of the rest of the general public and I have enough friends who are officers to see the attitude. But... what do you do? Baddies don't necessarily tell you they'd be baddies.
Who'd be a police officer - the abuse they get from the scum and danger they face?
There is a great pension but is it worth it? |  |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:55 - Apr 15 with 598 views | Boundy |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 16:44 - Apr 14 by KeithHaynes |
Never a finer point to make of life in 2021.
Love that picture. |
maybe but in public ? | |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:58 - Apr 15 with 586 views | trampie |
We should take the moral high ground, which we fail to do time and time again, did we learn nothing from the troubles in Northern Ireland ?, we should not potentially allow agents of the state to commit crimes particularly murder, torture and rape. |  |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 10:00 - Apr 15 with 590 views | Boundy |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:58 - Apr 15 by trampie |
We should take the moral high ground, which we fail to do time and time again, did we learn nothing from the troubles in Northern Ireland ?, we should not potentially allow agents of the state to commit crimes particularly murder, torture and rape. |
Do you mean the Free State ? | |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 10:04 - Apr 15 with 589 views | onehunglow |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:50 - Apr 15 by jack_lord |
Rich,
I understand all that. We need a police force and there are plenty of "scum" out there that most of us don't have the pleasure of bumping in to every day. The 70's was probably the right way to deal with them.
It is my view that "scum" has also tainted the forces view of the rest of the general public and I have enough friends who are officers to see the attitude. But... what do you do? Baddies don't necessarily tell you they'd be baddies.
Who'd be a police officer - the abuse they get from the scum and danger they face?
There is a great pension but is it worth it? |
Jase.
It is NOT a great pension. If I told you mine,you would be staggered .I ll PM you.
My son in law would have to work 40 years to get what Civil service jockeys get for banging on a keyboard .He will only work a an Interceptor/Firearms officer a he likes locking up scum. God knows why.
My daughter has already had a few calls asking her to go to hospital to see him but "he's alright". He is a sound lad and honest a day is long. I trust him implicitly.
Would I trust a solicitor ,accountant, surveyor? We ve just had a fall out with an architect whom Ive dismissed .Most people away from this site would trust a police officer than any of those professionals. Remember our barrister going on about seeking "the truth" .
I ve aid it many times but I am really close to joining highjack and jumping ship as this site is now drifting into a previous incarnation. We are seeing naked hatred towards certain people ,cities and their denizens . Not BAME so it passes the test. | |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 10:38 - Apr 15 with 559 views | angryjack |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:50 - Apr 15 by jack_lord |
Rich,
I understand all that. We need a police force and there are plenty of "scum" out there that most of us don't have the pleasure of bumping in to every day. The 70's was probably the right way to deal with them.
It is my view that "scum" has also tainted the forces view of the rest of the general public and I have enough friends who are officers to see the attitude. But... what do you do? Baddies don't necessarily tell you they'd be baddies.
Who'd be a police officer - the abuse they get from the scum and danger they face?
There is a great pension but is it worth it? |
As that programme showed the police are also scum and corrupt even to this day only couple months ago a police officer in hull took 60 pound out of a dead mans wallet I got loads more if you want me go on...and onehunglow...nothing against you mate,,but you tried to say in another post few months back that police don't do it...I have witnessed it first hand...never trust a copper... | | | |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 11:42 - Apr 15 with 530 views | YrAlarch |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 10:38 - Apr 15 by angryjack |
As that programme showed the police are also scum and corrupt even to this day only couple months ago a police officer in hull took 60 pound out of a dead mans wallet I got loads more if you want me go on...and onehunglow...nothing against you mate,,but you tried to say in another post few months back that police don't do it...I have witnessed it first hand...never trust a copper... |
Never forget though that coppers are human beings. They are of society, not above it, nor below it. For all your sorry tales, and I don't doubt them, there are hundreds of positive examples. As a society we cannot exist without a police service, but one which also has to be properly policed and scrutinised. | | | |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 11:51 - Apr 15 with 528 views | YrAlarch |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 09:55 - Apr 15 by Boundy |
maybe but in public ? |
Don't count your chickens! | | | |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 12:37 - Apr 15 with 526 views | RonaldStump |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 18:16 - Apr 14 by onehunglow |
I believe the next programme is about
Solicitors
Accountant
Surveyors
Architects.
Take your pick.
Bent feckers everywhere |
So when is the episode on about bent governments and the new global police force
Bojo
Macron
Merkel et al | |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 13:54 - Apr 15 with 486 views | angryjack |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 11:42 - Apr 15 by YrAlarch |
Never forget though that coppers are human beings. They are of society, not above it, nor below it. For all your sorry tales, and I don't doubt them, there are hundreds of positive examples. As a society we cannot exist without a police service, but one which also has to be properly policed and scrutinised. |
Correct but the many I have come across think they are above it... | | | |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 14:39 - Apr 15 with 471 views | KeithHaynes |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 13:54 - Apr 15 by angryjack |
Correct but the many I have come across think they are above it... |
Which circumstances were these mate ? |  |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 14:43 - Apr 15 with 469 views | Badlands |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 18:16 - Apr 14 by onehunglow |
I believe the next programme is about
Solicitors
Accountant
Surveyors
Architects.
Take your pick.
Bent feckers everywhere |
Not tory politicians? |  |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 17:56 - Apr 15 with 442 views | onehunglow |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 14:43 - Apr 15 by Badlands |
Not tory politicians? |
No,not all. Just a Labour ones,not all.
In fact like accountants,barristers architects but those professions do not see 3 programmes of corruption 60 yrs ago.
More lies are told by one barrister in an afternoon than by a whole unit of police officers in a month.
Who ya gonna call when you face certain trouble .? It won’t be any of those . | |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 20:28 - Apr 15 with 413 views | angryjack |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 14:39 - Apr 15 by KeithHaynes |
Which circumstances were these mate ? |
Just one example.walking home once I was stopped and pushed against a wall,and was told they are investigating a burglary in the area and basically surrounded me and was told if I didn't give them my name and address I would be detained..bullying tactics when done nothing wrong, they tried bullsh@ thing and saying I looked suspicious, when I said suspicion ain't a crime,they said I was trying to bed clever,when I knew my rights.I tried walking away as I wasn't detained and I was taken to the floor forcefully.when totally innocent..put them in uniform and they think they can do what they want.. | | | |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:14 - Apr 15 with 396 views | Flashberryjack |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 20:28 - Apr 15 by angryjack |
Just one example.walking home once I was stopped and pushed against a wall,and was told they are investigating a burglary in the area and basically surrounded me and was told if I didn't give them my name and address I would be detained..bullying tactics when done nothing wrong, they tried bullsh@ thing and saying I looked suspicious, when I said suspicion ain't a crime,they said I was trying to bed clever,when I knew my rights.I tried walking away as I wasn't detained and I was taken to the floor forcefully.when totally innocent..put them in uniform and they think they can do what they want.. |
Why wouldn't you just give them your name ? |  |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:16 - Apr 15 with 393 views | Boundy |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:14 - Apr 15 by Flashberryjack |
Why wouldn't you just give them your name ? |
You're not obliged to . | |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:31 - Apr 15 with 373 views | angryjack |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:14 - Apr 15 by Flashberryjack |
Why wouldn't you just give them your name ? |
Unless I have committed a crime I don't have give my details to anyone..if any tom dick and harry asked for my name address date of birth in the street I would tell them where to go..another occasion I had been to the pub in my car and not drank..on way home I popped into chicken shop...someone must called police and said I been drinking ,which I hadn't..I pulled up outside my place..started to walk up steps with food in hand as an unmarked BMW screeched down street pulled up and officer rugby tackled me to floor as I had keys to house in my hand.my food went everywhere..said I been drinking. And just got out car I said yes he touched wheels as they were hot and pulled my car keys out pocket and pressed them on off,put me in back car and breathalysed me to which I passed then said it was my luckyh night. I just wanted stick head in him.. | | | |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:35 - Apr 15 with 372 views | KeithHaynes |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 20:28 - Apr 15 by angryjack |
Just one example.walking home once I was stopped and pushed against a wall,and was told they are investigating a burglary in the area and basically surrounded me and was told if I didn't give them my name and address I would be detained..bullying tactics when done nothing wrong, they tried bullsh@ thing and saying I looked suspicious, when I said suspicion ain't a crime,they said I was trying to bed clever,when I knew my rights.I tried walking away as I wasn't detained and I was taken to the floor forcefully.when totally innocent..put them in uniform and they think they can do what they want.. |
Sounds like under s25 they approached you and to aid their inquiries regards a burglary and they asked you to give them your details, which us25 must do. It isn’t a case in law where you are not obliged to, it’s what you have to do. You can’t be asked for your details if no crime is being investigated, but when they are investigating you must answer.
This avoids you being arrested and inconvenienced for hours and hours as a suspect so they can check your antecedents immediately, on the spot. You of course were not to know this although you did say they would detain you if you did not comply. And they told you that. When you walked away you were not complying and they used force to detain you. Being suspected of an offence isn’t a crime but being in a circumstance where you could be a suspect is arrestable as it was once called. By requesting your details they were actually using their practical sense and common sense to save you hassle. You chose not to assist them,
it wasn’t a case of them doing what they wanted because they were in uniform, it was them investigating a burglary within the powers they have under PACE. Sorry you had to go through this, it’s a shame, but no matter our age we all learn sometimes 👠| |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:45 - Apr 15 with 357 views | Flashberryjack |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:31 - Apr 15 by angryjack |
Unless I have committed a crime I don't have give my details to anyone..if any tom dick and harry asked for my name address date of birth in the street I would tell them where to go..another occasion I had been to the pub in my car and not drank..on way home I popped into chicken shop...someone must called police and said I been drinking ,which I hadn't..I pulled up outside my place..started to walk up steps with food in hand as an unmarked BMW screeched down street pulled up and officer rugby tackled me to floor as I had keys to house in my hand.my food went everywhere..said I been drinking. And just got out car I said yes he touched wheels as they were hot and pulled my car keys out pocket and pressed them on off,put me in back car and breathalysed me to which I passed then said it was my luckyh night. I just wanted stick head in him.. |
But they weren't any Tom Dick or Harry were they, they were Police officers investigating a burglary, you may have fitted the description of the burglar, I'm sorry. but I fail to see your grievance. | |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:52 - Apr 15 with 347 views | onehunglow |
So angry,it is very simple.Apologise to the decent police officers on this site and always remover a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Keith is too much of a gentleman so I will tell you now your attitude is what failed you and take this onto the street and you will always attract attention.
Nothing to hide,nowt to fear..
You can film it all now
You have been well and truly schooled by Keith and you need to accept that fact if only to yourself. | |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:55 - Apr 15 with 344 views | raynor94 |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:16 - Apr 15 by Boundy |
You're not obliged to . |
Bloody hell, have you got a suspicious face? There's a pattern beginning to emerge here  |  |
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| Police Corruption prog tonight on 00:09 - Apr 16 with 318 views | controversial_jack |
| Police Corruption prog tonight on 21:35 - Apr 15 by KeithHaynes |
Sounds like under s25 they approached you and to aid their inquiries regards a burglary and they asked you to give them your details, which us25 must do. It isn’t a case in law where you are not obliged to, it’s what you have to do. You can’t be asked for your details if no crime is being investigated, but when they are investigating you must answer.
This avoids you being arrested and inconvenienced for hours and hours as a suspect so they can check your antecedents immediately, on the spot. You of course were not to know this although you did say they would detain you if you did not comply. And they told you that. When you walked away you were not complying and they used force to detain you. Being suspected of an offence isn’t a crime but being in a circumstance where you could be a suspect is arrestable as it was once called. By requesting your details they were actually using their practical sense and common sense to save you hassle. You chose not to assist them,
it wasn’t a case of them doing what they wanted because they were in uniform, it was them investigating a burglary within the powers they have under PACE. Sorry you had to go through this, it’s a shame, but no matter our age we all learn sometimes 👠|
I fail to see what getting details has to do with any current offence they are being suspected of. Suspicion itself is not a cause unless they actually suspect you of any crime.They can stop you and ask to account for your movements and even search you, although you don't have to give consent They will then find you have nothing on you and not going equipped for burglary
It's bluff, and intimidation, it's how they work. if they were going to arrest him they would have done so regardless of details.You cannot talk yourself out of an arrest.At every encounter with police , they attempt to get your details whether you have broken the law or not. Say nothing at all to them, they have nothing on you, unless of course you have been a naughty boy | | | |
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