| Dalian atkinson 22:27 - Jun 23 with 4940 views | angryjack |
Hope the bully in uniform gets the maximum,,another abusing their powers,this one got caught..throw the book at him...
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| Dalian atkinson on 13:37 - Jun 25 with 805 views | controversial_jack |
| Dalian atkinson on 13:07 - Jun 25 by angryjack |
You don't get it do you,,the police are there to protect and serve and be honest...not even one of them should be corrupt or dishonourable,so if you are trying to do say you shouldn't tar them all the same..well the police are in a place of trust and far too many of them cover for each other and abuse their powers when there should be absolutely none....I hope he gets maximum for what he did.. |
Exactly. Police swear an oath and should be help to higher standards than most.Any officer who covers for a dodgy one is just as bad. | | | |
| Dalian atkinson on 13:37 - Jun 25 with 809 views | onehunglow |
| Dalian atkinson on 13:07 - Jun 25 by angryjack |
You don't get it do you,,the police are there to protect and serve and be honest...not even one of them should be corrupt or dishonourable,so if you are trying to do say you shouldn't tar them all the same..well the police are in a place of trust and far too many of them cover for each other and abuse their powers when there should be absolutely none....I hope he gets maximum for what he did.. |
Well,you don't want them to a you hate them.
You've refered to them as pigs | |
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| Dalian atkinson on 14:38 - Jun 25 with 783 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dalian atkinson on 17:54 - Jun 24 by controversial_jack |
I bet his colleagues all backed him up.For every dodgy copper another will back them up. [Post edited 24 Jun 2021 17:56]
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There were only two officers there, both on trial. |  |
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| Dalian atkinson on 14:40 - Jun 25 with 778 views | controversial_jack |
| Dalian atkinson on 14:38 - Jun 25 by KeithHaynes |
There were only two officers there, both on trial. |
Why didn't one prevent the other from his excesses? | | | |
| Dalian atkinson on 14:47 - Jun 25 with 775 views | YrAlarch |
| Dalian atkinson on 14:40 - Jun 25 by controversial_jack |
Why didn't one prevent the other from his excesses? |
That is why the other is on trial. | | | |
| Dalian atkinson on 14:50 - Jun 25 with 773 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dalian atkinson on 14:40 - Jun 25 by controversial_jack |
Why didn't one prevent the other from his excesses? |
The probationer Constable ? She was terrified. Have you ever been terrified in the face of extreme aggression and feared for your life ? | |
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| Dalian atkinson on 15:02 - Jun 25 with 759 views | controversial_jack |
| Dalian atkinson on 14:50 - Jun 25 by KeithHaynes |
The probationer Constable ? She was terrified. Have you ever been terrified in the face of extreme aggression and feared for your life ? |
Yes, many times! Not sure that kicking a man in the head when he was down had any relevance and the The Jury didn't agree either. | | | |
| Dalian atkinson on 16:36 - Jun 25 with 743 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dalian atkinson on 15:02 - Jun 25 by controversial_jack |
Yes, many times! Not sure that kicking a man in the head when he was down had any relevance and the The Jury didn't agree either. |
I’m unsure where you are going with this. I thought you had some information of a police cover up ? When all along it was properly investigated and he was convicted.
BTW kicking someone in the head can be use of reasonable force dependent on the circumstances, but obviously not in this case. | |
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| Dalian atkinson on 17:10 - Jun 25 with 731 views | onehunglow |
| Dalian atkinson on 16:36 - Jun 25 by KeithHaynes |
I’m unsure where you are going with this. I thought you had some information of a police cover up ? When all along it was properly investigated and he was convicted.
BTW kicking someone in the head can be use of reasonable force dependent on the circumstances, but obviously not in this case. |
Keith.
You know ,as I do, this case is manna from heaven for those like angry and contro who are anti police .These are the type of people who will deny that every time they are confronted with that phrase. They offer crocodile tears when officers get killed or maimed for life.
You and I have both been involved in situations where our lives were at risk,or least I have and it remains in the memory.It does mine. I love my wife and kids more than words could ay and I would and will defend myself to obviate the call from a Supt to the missus to say the immortal words,"could we come in for a moment please".
I have faced extraordinary violence and responded in a fashion angry and contro would have commented as they do;it was either me or them. I d rather face a Court hearing than be floating in that dust bowl in the sky. Anti police people need to understand the levels of violence out there. They have no backing from the Boes,Govt and certainly not local councillors and spokespeople.
I wasn't privy to what went on with Atkinson but a Court has found him guilty of manslaughter ;that would down to the force being inappropriate and excessive in the circumstances. His life is effectively over.
The case against the female officer has not been proven.
I truly ,genuinely cannot understand how anyone would want to put on a police uniform and then protective equipment . | |
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| Dalian atkinson on 17:34 - Jun 25 with 719 views | controversial_jack |
| Dalian atkinson on 16:36 - Jun 25 by KeithHaynes |
I’m unsure where you are going with this. I thought you had some information of a police cover up ? When all along it was properly investigated and he was convicted.
BTW kicking someone in the head can be use of reasonable force dependent on the circumstances, but obviously not in this case. |
Why didn't the young Pc prevent her partner from doing what he did? All too often we seen officers doing something they shouldn't, but their colleagues do not intervene to stop it.If civilians did it there would be an outcry, | | | |
| Dalian atkinson on 17:36 - Jun 25 with 721 views | onehunglow |
There are questions over the use of Tazer.
These are deployed as general arming of Police isnt wanted my most.
Myabe it's time police officers simply handed them in and the ARVs do the same | |
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| Dalian atkinson on 19:58 - Jun 25 with 695 views | angryjack |
| Dalian atkinson on 17:34 - Jun 25 by controversial_jack |
Why didn't the young Pc prevent her partner from doing what he did? All too often we seen officers doing something they shouldn't, but their colleagues do not intervene to stop it.If civilians did it there would be an outcry, |
I'll tell you why, because they didn't think he would die and they as they all do they roughed him up and thought he would survive and would say he banged his head while restraining,goes to show how corrupt they are..it has happened to me and when I tried make a complaint I was called the liar and aggressor,because they all cover for each other..so ye I do mistrust the (pigs)...you wonder why they get this name well ask yourself onehunglow [Post edited 25 Jun 2021 20:00]
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| Dalian atkinson on 20:33 - Jun 25 with 673 views | Gwyn737 |
I feel so sorry for the tens of thousands of members of the thin blue line, who heard this story and whose shoulders sank, in the knowledge that in spite of their hard work and good deeds knew that this would be what people would be talking about.
It’s an awful thing to have happened but justice has been done, thankfully. | | | |
| Dalian atkinson on 20:52 - Jun 25 with 670 views | raynor94 |
| Dalian atkinson on 19:58 - Jun 25 by angryjack |
I'll tell you why, because they didn't think he would die and they as they all do they roughed him up and thought he would survive and would say he banged his head while restraining,goes to show how corrupt they are..it has happened to me and when I tried make a complaint I was called the liar and aggressor,because they all cover for each other..so ye I do mistrust the (pigs)...you wonder why they get this name well ask yourself onehunglow [Post edited 25 Jun 2021 20:00]
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You should have mentioned on here that you have been stopped by the Police |  |
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| Dalian atkinson on 21:58 - Jun 25 with 656 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dalian atkinson on 17:34 - Jun 25 by controversial_jack |
Why didn't the young Pc prevent her partner from doing what he did? All too often we seen officers doing something they shouldn't, but their colleagues do not intervene to stop it.If civilians did it there would be an outcry, |
Because what he did at the time he felt was necessary and proportionate.
It turned out not to be, in court. | |
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| Dalian atkinson on 22:01 - Jun 25 with 649 views | controversial_jack |
| Dalian atkinson on 21:58 - Jun 25 by KeithHaynes |
Because what he did at the time he felt was necessary and proportionate.
It turned out not to be, in court. |
Kicking anyone in the head when they are on the floor is not acceptable.It's thuggish and cowardly | | | |
| Dalian atkinson on 22:20 - Jun 25 with 642 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dalian atkinson on 22:01 - Jun 25 by controversial_jack |
Kicking anyone in the head when they are on the floor is not acceptable.It's thuggish and cowardly |
As I said before it isn’t if at the time the person doing it felt it was necessary and proportionate. The fact he did it at the time would mean he felt it was necessary, and the minimum amount of force necessary, However, the court decided it wasn’t.
You do realise that you can stab someone in the head and if it is ruled necessary and proportionate in court then you commit no offence ?
That’s why the police can shoot you in certain circumstances and commit no offence.
Whether it’s cowardly or whatever isn’t the test in law.
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| Dalian atkinson on 22:22 - Jun 25 with 637 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Dalian atkinson on 17:34 - Jun 25 by controversial_jack |
Why didn't the young Pc prevent her partner from doing what he did? All too often we seen officers doing something they shouldn't, but their colleagues do not intervene to stop it.If civilians did it there would be an outcry, |
Thats a very good point. |  |
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| Dalian atkinson on 22:24 - Jun 25 with 633 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dalian atkinson on 22:22 - Jun 25 by Kilkennyjack |
Thats a very good point. |
Probably because she was terrified ? | |
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| Dalian atkinson on 22:56 - Jun 25 with 605 views | controversial_jack |
| Dalian atkinson on 22:20 - Jun 25 by KeithHaynes |
As I said before it isn’t if at the time the person doing it felt it was necessary and proportionate. The fact he did it at the time would mean he felt it was necessary, and the minimum amount of force necessary, However, the court decided it wasn’t.
You do realise that you can stab someone in the head and if it is ruled necessary and proportionate in court then you commit no offence ?
That’s why the police can shoot you in certain circumstances and commit no offence.
Whether it’s cowardly or whatever isn’t the test in law.
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I do realise this , and a belief at the time would be a defence, although not a very good one if the person was already incapacitated and lying on the floor, as Chauvin found out | | | |
| Dalian atkinson on 23:06 - Jun 25 with 599 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dalian atkinson on 22:56 - Jun 25 by controversial_jack |
I do realise this , and a belief at the time would be a defence, although not a very good one if the person was already incapacitated and lying on the floor, as Chauvin found out |
He certainly did. | |
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| Dalian atkinson on 23:10 - Jun 25 with 596 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Dalian atkinson on 22:56 - Jun 25 by controversial_jack |
I do realise this , and a belief at the time would be a defence, although not a very good one if the person was already incapacitated and lying on the floor, as Chauvin found out |
A belief at the time would only be a defence if that is what he was genuinely believing, the test then moves onto whether that belief was reasonable to the everyday person. Murder is always very hard to prove. Did he intend to kill or cause serious harm ?
Prosecuting and defending for nearly 20 I’ve come across some dodgy coppers, but the overwhelming majority aren’t. They’re doing a job I’d not have the balls to do. The only people that are more disgusted by corrupt coppers than the public are other coppers.
In answer to someone’s earlier point, the fact that this was a police officer who committed the offence will aggravate the sentence. |  | | |
| Dalian atkinson on 06:53 - Jun 26 with 544 views | angryjack |
| Dalian atkinson on 22:24 - Jun 25 by KeithHaynes |
Probably because she was terrified ? |
Terrified lol .. shouldn't be a copper then...an unarmed man against two Cooper's with tazers batons stab vests maybe guns...no they are bullies who thought they get away with it as always | | | |
| Dalian atkinson on 09:18 - Jun 26 with 522 views | controversial_jack |
| Dalian atkinson on 23:10 - Jun 25 by Sirjohnalot |
A belief at the time would only be a defence if that is what he was genuinely believing, the test then moves onto whether that belief was reasonable to the everyday person. Murder is always very hard to prove. Did he intend to kill or cause serious harm ?
Prosecuting and defending for nearly 20 I’ve come across some dodgy coppers, but the overwhelming majority aren’t. They’re doing a job I’d not have the balls to do. The only people that are more disgusted by corrupt coppers than the public are other coppers.
In answer to someone’s earlier point, the fact that this was a police officer who committed the offence will aggravate the sentence. |
In almost every case of a dodgy officer doing something overly aggressive , why do their colleagues almost always back them up and not intervene?That's what boils my piss.As far as i'm concerned that makes them an accomplice and as bad as the office doing the deed.There's either a culture of fear , or a false sense of loyality and them against us attitude within the force | | | |
| Dalian atkinson on 21:32 - Jun 26 with 476 views | howenjack |
| Dalian atkinson on 21:58 - Jun 25 by KeithHaynes |
Because what he did at the time he felt was necessary and proportionate.
It turned out not to be, in court. |
She was his girlfriend that's why she didn't stop him .Atkinson was already unconscious after being tasered for 30 secs. He was presenting absolutely NO threat to the officers as he was already unconscious as he collapsed to the floor . He was kicked in the head while unconscious . The female officer also hit him with her truncheon .The officer knew he was in big trouble because he tried lying in his interview by saying he had kicked him in the shoulder when forensics proved otherwise.
Sorry . a thug in uniform nothing more however you want to dress it up , got caught no sympathy | | | |
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