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Boris Beating Crime Plan 09:45 - Jul 27 with 1166 viewsonehunglow

Friends.
If your heart is heavy right now,read the plans of this government to take knives off the street an d "beat crime".

Right wing government,apparently.


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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 10:31 - Jul 27 with 1133 viewsYrAlarch

'Fur coat no knickers' policies from successive Governments of both colours. What about tacking the underlying causes of crime and putting resources into them rather than half baked, under funded, populist notions.
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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 10:43 - Jul 27 with 1125 viewsCatullus

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 10:31 - Jul 27 by YrAlarch

'Fur coat no knickers' policies from successive Governments of both colours. What about tacking the underlying causes of crime and putting resources into them rather than half baked, under funded, populist notions.


Apart from anything else I'd like to see a lot more police but out on the beat again, not cruising around in vans.
Until they deal with the poverty and inequality they won't make great inroads. They have to start somewhere though so why not with a deterrent, put more police out there.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 10:58 - Jul 27 with 1112 viewsonehunglow

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 10:43 - Jul 27 by Catullus

Apart from anything else I'd like to see a lot more police but out on the beat again, not cruising around in vans.
Until they deal with the poverty and inequality they won't make great inroads. They have to start somewhere though so why not with a deterrent, put more police out there.


They cruise around in vans as there is safety in numbers .
If on your own,,you have no back up,and looking at how things are these days,I dont blame them.
Public are not going to pay to have bobbies on the beat which is a trite load of shyte. When Bobbies had a beat,they were respected and feared,which is right.

When facing group unrest ,you need numbers. Important to watch your back too.

Undelying causes of crimes? We've always had plenty of villains. Its in our DNA.Thee day though,we release them from prison to carry it on.

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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 11:17 - Jul 27 with 1101 viewsCatullus

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 10:58 - Jul 27 by onehunglow

They cruise around in vans as there is safety in numbers .
If on your own,,you have no back up,and looking at how things are these days,I dont blame them.
Public are not going to pay to have bobbies on the beat which is a trite load of shyte. When Bobbies had a beat,they were respected and feared,which is right.

When facing group unrest ,you need numbers. Important to watch your back too.

Undelying causes of crimes? We've always had plenty of villains. Its in our DNA.Thee day though,we release them from prison to carry it on.


They cruise in vans in pairs, not mob handed. They can walk the beat in pairs too. It's not tryte shyte, a lot of crime, burglary, muggings, they are spur of the moment and a more visible police presnece is a great deterrent. When they need support they have radios.

Feral kids stalk the roads with no one to see them, they take their chances. Gangs operate with impunity in our cities because the police have had to abandon those areas due to lack of resources.
We won't lower crime unless we take the streets back. Then the so called criminal justice system needs to punish people properly, or, where it's deserved, give people help.

I live in a fairly decent area, not much crime really and if we see something we feel safe enough reporting it. If I lived in some parts of London, Manchester, Burmingham and these days even Cardiff, I wouldn't feel safe getting involved and criminals rely on that fear.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 11:33 - Jul 27 with 1080 viewsRonaldStump

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 10:58 - Jul 27 by onehunglow

They cruise around in vans as there is safety in numbers .
If on your own,,you have no back up,and looking at how things are these days,I dont blame them.
Public are not going to pay to have bobbies on the beat which is a trite load of shyte. When Bobbies had a beat,they were respected and feared,which is right.

When facing group unrest ,you need numbers. Important to watch your back too.

Undelying causes of crimes? We've always had plenty of villains. Its in our DNA.Thee day though,we release them from prison to carry it on.


Absolute rubbish the ol bill these days would sooner turn up on your doorstep for you not wearing a mask in tesco's 2 days ago, or bully pregnant women for organising an anti lockdown protest on Facebook.

Tell them harold 2 doors down has been stabbed by a junkie and you won't see them for days.

Cowards the lot of em

(He She Him)

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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 12:07 - Jul 27 with 1060 viewsangryjack

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 11:33 - Jul 27 by RonaldStump

Absolute rubbish the ol bill these days would sooner turn up on your doorstep for you not wearing a mask in tesco's 2 days ago, or bully pregnant women for organising an anti lockdown protest on Facebook.

Tell them harold 2 doors down has been stabbed by a junkie and you won't see them for days.

Cowards the lot of em


I agree totally..try getting through to them for a start on hold forever..there was a fella the other week outside mine over on the green, clearly had mental health issues,talking nonsense to himself sitting in the rain,the manner in which he was talking was frightening kids and women walking past,he wasn't threatening but acting really weird,I went over asked if he was OK and just couldn't get no sense out him,so I phoned 101 whatever number is to wait for about 25 minutes,when the woman came on phone I explained everything and she said how do you know he frightening them ,have they told you and what's your name and address, I asked if this was relevant can you just send someone to see if he OK and she didn't want to know as long as he not violent,I said could you send ambulance then see if OK but wouldn't,they waste of time..more interested who I was
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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 13:37 - Jul 27 with 1022 viewsonehunglow

Innit.

Cowards then.

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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 17:46 - Jul 27 with 954 viewsonehunglow

Just to enlighten you,Boris is easing up on search search wanting a more loving approach to knife crimes.

I tell you,folks,he is crazy and dangerous.

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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 18:32 - Jul 27 with 938 viewsGwyn737

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 17:46 - Jul 27 by onehunglow

Just to enlighten you,Boris is easing up on search search wanting a more loving approach to knife crimes.

I tell you,folks,he is crazy and dangerous.


In addition (from what I can make out), all the ‘new’ ideas the Tories have set out are not new at all - in some cases they’ve been happening for donkeys years. Of course, they’ve been/ will continue to be chronically underfunded.

Police set up to fail. Again. I wouldn’t do it for twice the money.
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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 18:44 - Jul 27 with 939 viewsonehunglow

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 18:32 - Jul 27 by Gwyn737

In addition (from what I can make out), all the ‘new’ ideas the Tories have set out are not new at all - in some cases they’ve been happening for donkeys years. Of course, they’ve been/ will continue to be chronically underfunded.

Police set up to fail. Again. I wouldn’t do it for twice the money.


Tories have always made themselves out to be the party of law and order.Not that hard really seeing the relentless Labour criticism of anything police .

Thatcher seen a giving them a massive rise when all she did was implement an agreement. Sly.

I fear for any officer on these streets ,which are a dangerous as ever and with even les support form public and police.

The filth from angry and ronnie really does show how thankless a job it is

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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 23:24 - Jul 27 with 896 viewsmajorraglan

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 12:07 - Jul 27 by angryjack

I agree totally..try getting through to them for a start on hold forever..there was a fella the other week outside mine over on the green, clearly had mental health issues,talking nonsense to himself sitting in the rain,the manner in which he was talking was frightening kids and women walking past,he wasn't threatening but acting really weird,I went over asked if he was OK and just couldn't get no sense out him,so I phoned 101 whatever number is to wait for about 25 minutes,when the woman came on phone I explained everything and she said how do you know he frightening them ,have they told you and what's your name and address, I asked if this was relevant can you just send someone to see if he OK and she didn't want to know as long as he not violent,I said could you send ambulance then see if OK but wouldn't,they waste of time..more interested who I was


Was the SWP? 25 minutes wait is terrible, you should have used the 999 system and chucked in a few key words including potentially violent, unstable etc. I have previously tried to contact SWP on the 101 system and was waiting ages and ages, once I actually got through the staff were great and sorted it out, had it not been for the fact it was important I’d have hung up.

There is no national target for answering 101 calls and that’s something Boris is going to look at, while he’s at it he also needs to look at “abandonment rates” which is when when members of the public hang up because their sick of waiting, some organisations actually look at a high abandonment rate as a positive because they assume the callers issues were resolved hence the abandonment of the call. They don’t consider people got so peeved they just hung up.


The number of cops decreased steadily under Cameron and Theresa May, dropping by around 20,000 or 14%, but when you look at the ratio of cops to members of the public the decrease was actually 19% as the population has increased. Boris gave an undertaking that he’d reverse the previous Governments cuts and that is on going. Over the last 20 years the cops have been inundated with extra paperwork and have to jump through more hoops, they also have to deal with a more of complex crimes, child sexual exploitation, online child porn on line, terrorists and extremists, online fraud as well as Facebook guff. Mental Health is also huge amount of their work and all to often they are the service of last resort and picking up the work of other services, in effect the cops are the road sweepers of society clearing the mess others have left behind. Their running fast to stand still, but actually on the point of going backwards.
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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 23:44 - Jul 27 with 875 viewsRonaldStump

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 18:44 - Jul 27 by onehunglow

Tories have always made themselves out to be the party of law and order.Not that hard really seeing the relentless Labour criticism of anything police .

Thatcher seen a giving them a massive rise when all she did was implement an agreement. Sly.

I fear for any officer on these streets ,which are a dangerous as ever and with even les support form public and police.

The filth from angry and ronnie really does show how thankless a job it is


They bring it on themselves. Getting on their knee's for marxist BLM protesters whilst wading in truncheons flying for people marching for their freedom.

tackle knife crime and catch pedo's not non mask wearers or people organising protests on social media.

Being a football fan you should be fully aware of how we have been treated for years or have you got a card to pull when things get ugly?

respect is earned

(He She Him)

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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 00:00 - Jul 28 with 871 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 17:46 - Jul 27 by onehunglow

Just to enlighten you,Boris is easing up on search search wanting a more loving approach to knife crimes.

I tell you,folks,he is crazy and dangerous.


Give Boris credit when he was mayor of London he did reduce crime by 20% and homicide by 50%.

Under Sadiq Khan crime in London has spiralled out of control.
Homicides up 27%
Youth Homicides up 70%
Violent crimes up 19%
Robbery up 33%
Burglaries 18%

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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 02:56 - Jul 28 with 847 viewsRonaldStump

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 00:00 - Jul 28 by felixstowe_jack

Give Boris credit when he was mayor of London he did reduce crime by 20% and homicide by 50%.

Under Sadiq Khan crime in London has spiralled out of control.
Homicides up 27%
Youth Homicides up 70%
Violent crimes up 19%
Robbery up 33%
Burglaries 18%


And people still support him including some boneheads on here.

unbelievable

(He She Him)

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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 10:11 - Jul 28 with 789 viewscontroversial_jack

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 00:00 - Jul 28 by felixstowe_jack

Give Boris credit when he was mayor of London he did reduce crime by 20% and homicide by 50%.

Under Sadiq Khan crime in London has spiralled out of control.
Homicides up 27%
Youth Homicides up 70%
Violent crimes up 19%
Robbery up 33%
Burglaries 18%


Crime has soared Nationwide not just London. Boris was mayor during the London riots
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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 18:18 - Jul 28 with 732 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 18:44 - Jul 27 by onehunglow

Tories have always made themselves out to be the party of law and order.Not that hard really seeing the relentless Labour criticism of anything police .

Thatcher seen a giving them a massive rise when all she did was implement an agreement. Sly.

I fear for any officer on these streets ,which are a dangerous as ever and with even les support form public and police.

The filth from angry and ronnie really does show how thankless a job it is


It is no longer the force you new.
This is modern day reality.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9819957/Police-forces-dumped-1-000-crim
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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 20:55 - Jul 28 with 705 viewsonehunglow

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 18:18 - Jul 28 by A_Fans_Dad

It is no longer the force you new.
This is modern day reality.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9819957/Police-forces-dumped-1-000-crim


HTF do you know?
You know nothing about me,what I know,nor whom I know nor indeed how close am I to the wheel.

The policing of your dreams is not what you know.


Quite why modern day poloice officers bother to deal with what they do and then get farkall support from the public-like you- makes me feel they should do what our wonderful fire fighter did and strike. You could then step forward and deal with crime yourself. You would sh't yourself stupid after a day.

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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 23:32 - Jul 28 with 672 viewsmajorraglan

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 00:00 - Jul 28 by felixstowe_jack

Give Boris credit when he was mayor of London he did reduce crime by 20% and homicide by 50%.

Under Sadiq Khan crime in London has spiralled out of control.
Homicides up 27%
Youth Homicides up 70%
Violent crimes up 19%
Robbery up 33%
Burglaries 18%


As Controversial Jack has highlighted what happened in a London under Boris mirrored what happened nationally and now the same is happening under Khan - crime is rising in London and that trend is mirrored in the UK across the board. Crime started dropping in 2005 and started going up again 10 years later.

There have also been changes in Home a Office Counting Rules and National Crime Recording Standards which mean increased numbers of crimes will be recorded as more “incidents” will be designated criminal offences.
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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 05:55 - Jul 29 with 658 viewsKilkennyjack



Johnson is driven by what polls say will be popular with Gammon voters.
He has little in the way of principles, save he is out for himself.

Beware of the Risen People

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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 06:49 - Jul 29 with 650 viewsangryjack

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 18:44 - Jul 27 by onehunglow

Tories have always made themselves out to be the party of law and order.Not that hard really seeing the relentless Labour criticism of anything police .

Thatcher seen a giving them a massive rise when all she did was implement an agreement. Sly.

I fear for any officer on these streets ,which are a dangerous as ever and with even les support form public and police.

The filth from angry and ronnie really does show how thankless a job it is


Filth from me.....think again mucker,,the filth from the "filth"..I have experienced,and I wandering why that is one of the names they are nationally called..if they were so clean and honest they wouldn't have this reputation
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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 08:39 - Jul 29 with 622 viewsonehunglow

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 00:00 - Jul 28 by felixstowe_jack

Give Boris credit when he was mayor of London he did reduce crime by 20% and homicide by 50%.

Under Sadiq Khan crime in London has spiralled out of control.
Homicides up 27%
Youth Homicides up 70%
Violent crimes up 19%
Robbery up 33%
Burglaries 18%


Stats often mislead.

Ask serving officers how they feel right now and then chuck in the anti police hate posted by angry and Ron. Ask yourself why you would do such a job.
May said the job wasn't exceptional.If that i the case,they should have the right to withdraw labour,as do the other emergency services.

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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 08:54 - Jul 29 with 612 viewsmajorraglan

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 08:39 - Jul 29 by onehunglow

Stats often mislead.

Ask serving officers how they feel right now and then chuck in the anti police hate posted by angry and Ron. Ask yourself why you would do such a job.
May said the job wasn't exceptional.If that i the case,they should have the right to withdraw labour,as do the other emergency services.


May was a terrible Home Secretary.
Agree about how officers feel about the job, I know quite a few police officers and they all say it’s grim at the moment. I also agree with you regarding the right to withdraw labour. Recommendations on police pay rises (and I believe some conditions of service) are made by an independent board who’ve listened to representations from all sides. It can’t be right that the Home Office can ignore the independent panel’s recommendations and the police have no recourse whatsoever and just have to like it or lump it, the recommendation should be binding. If the police have no means of redress then they should have the right to strike.
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Boris Beating Crime Plan on 09:09 - Jul 29 with 600 viewsonehunglow

Boris Beating Crime Plan on 08:54 - Jul 29 by majorraglan

May was a terrible Home Secretary.
Agree about how officers feel about the job, I know quite a few police officers and they all say it’s grim at the moment. I also agree with you regarding the right to withdraw labour. Recommendations on police pay rises (and I believe some conditions of service) are made by an independent board who’ve listened to representations from all sides. It can’t be right that the Home Office can ignore the independent panel’s recommendations and the police have no recourse whatsoever and just have to like it or lump it, the recommendation should be binding. If the police have no means of redress then they should have the right to strike.


May really was.
Clarke a shocker too
Patel a craven coward .

All Conservative


And yes,filth from angry.Insulting ,personal ,diatribe against a good body of people who put their live on the line.

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