| Polexit? 11:55 - Oct 9 with 2843 views | Catullus |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58840076
A couple of excerpts,
France says such an exit is now a "de facto risk". Late on Friday the French and German foreign ministers rebuked Poland, saying EU membership relied upon "complete and unconditional adherence to common values and rules" and this was "not simply a moral commitment. It is also a legal commitment".
The European Commission has warned it will use all its powers against Poland.
Our utmost priority is to ensure the rights of Polish citizens are protected and that Polish citizens enjoy the benefits granted by membership of the European Union
Ursula von der Leyen
European Commission President
The first paragraph reads very much as shut up and do as you're told. Von der Leyen's words are much better but in the end what should matter? Surely that would be the wishes of the Polish people?
If the Poles want to 'remain' then at the next election vote in Don Tusk's party, if they want to leave then re-elect PIS. A Polish court has already rules some aspects of a treaty are incompatible with Polish law so what next? Will the Polish government change tack, buckle under or will they continue to push and maybe trigger 'Polexit'? |  |
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| Polexit? on 14:27 - Oct 10 with 1207 views | 73__73 |
| Polexit? on 14:25 - Oct 10 by majorraglan |
I think that’s fair enough. They signed up to a set of rules which govern membership, things like an Independent judiciary, media freedoms and rights for minority groups and they are now seeking to change the goal posts. Examples include introducing disciplinary measures for judges who apply the laws in a way the government don’t like reversal of LGBT rights etc.
Why should they get somewhere in the region of €11bn more out than they put in if they won’t adhere to the rules?
We’ve left because we don’t like the rules. [Post edited 10 Oct 2021 14:26]
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Well maybe a growing amount of poles aren’t prepared to accept the over reaching arms of the eu.
And when that happens the eu money/bribes will count for nothing. | |
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| Polexit? on 16:30 - Oct 10 with 1174 views | majorraglan |
| Polexit? on 14:27 - Oct 10 by 73__73 |
Well maybe a growing amount of poles aren’t prepared to accept the over reaching arms of the eu.
And when that happens the eu money/bribes will count for nothing. |
You may be right, at the moment 80% plus want to remain but that could easily change. | | | |
| Polexit? on 17:19 - Oct 10 with 1146 views | Flashberryjack |
| Polexit? on 21:02 - Oct 9 by majorraglan |
Earlier this year the MEP’s contacted the EU Commission and Van Der Leyden asking them to take action against the Polish government and the MEP’s believed Poland was breaching done of the fundamental rules/ principles of EU membership, the EU have not taken any action. To my mind, it stands to reason that if a country wants to be part of the EU they have to stick up the rules which govern membership, it’s my understanding the Poles and Hungarians aren’t playing ball.
Hungary and Poland are by far the 2 largest net beneficiaries of EU funding, if they don’t want to stick to the rules that’s their call, but if they don’t they should expect sanctions which is what the MEP’s want to see. Can’t really fault what France and the MEP’s are saying which in effect is if you want the benefits you have to stick to the rules. |
And the French stick to the rules ? |  |
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| Polexit? on 17:24 - Oct 10 with 1136 views | majorraglan |
| Polexit? on 17:19 - Oct 10 by Flashberryjack |
And the French stick to the rules ? |
Not saying they do, but they aren’t the ones who are who are currently undermining the fundamental principles. The Polish Govt are happy to trouser €11bn net (whereas the French are net contributors), If the Poles don't likes the rules they should leave like we did. | | | |
| Polexit? on 18:05 - Oct 10 with 1123 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Polexit? on 17:19 - Oct 10 by Flashberryjack |
And the French stick to the rules ? |
The CAP accounts for 33% of the EU budget with French farmers getting the biggest subsidies 7 billion a year followed by Germany and Spain. | |
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| Polexit? on 18:54 - Oct 10 with 1102 views | 73__73 |
| Polexit? on 17:24 - Oct 10 by majorraglan |
Not saying they do, but they aren’t the ones who are who are currently undermining the fundamental principles. The Polish Govt are happy to trouser €11bn net (whereas the French are net contributors), If the Poles don't likes the rules they should leave like we did. |
So if you are net contributors you can do what you want and bully nations like Poland, who aren’t be contributors. Very strange | |
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| Polexit? on 19:28 - Oct 10 with 1079 views | majorraglan |
| Polexit? on 18:54 - Oct 10 by 73__73 |
So if you are net contributors you can do what you want and bully nations like Poland, who aren’t be contributors. Very strange |
Not saying that at all. They just want the penny and the bun. | | | |
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| Polexit? on 08:33 - Oct 11 with 999 views | Kilkennyjack |
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| Polexit? on 09:20 - Oct 11 with 986 views | Catullus |
A few hundred/thousand or even million people chanting something doesn't represent the whole country. There is only ever one poll that ever counts.
The Poles are net beneficiaries right now, lets see how they feel when the EU changes that. The EU wants everybody to be net contributors.
It won't just be about money though, nor should it be. | |
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| Polexit? on 09:46 - Oct 11 with 974 views | pikeypaul |
It’s only a matter of time.
No one thought the people of Great Britain 🇬🇧 would tell the EU to get fecked , but we did and now countries like Poland can see what a success it has been and what BS project fear was they will eventually follow.
OUT AND EFFING LOVING IT 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 |  |
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| Polexit? on 17:55 - Oct 11 with 922 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Polexit? on 09:46 - Oct 11 by pikeypaul |
It’s only a matter of time.
No one thought the people of Great Britain 🇬🇧 would tell the EU to get fecked , but we did and now countries like Poland can see what a success it has been and what BS project fear was they will eventually follow.
OUT AND EFFING LOVING IT 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 |
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Yep, they will be wanting their own empty shelves and empty fuel pumps. | |
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| Polexit? on 18:46 - Oct 11 with 905 views | 73__73 |
| Polexit? on 17:55 - Oct 11 by Kilkennyjack |
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Yep, they will be wanting their own empty shelves and empty fuel pumps. |
You really are clutching at straws aren’t you 😂 | |
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| Polexit? on 20:08 - Oct 11 with 880 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Polexit? on 18:46 - Oct 11 by 73__73 |
You really are clutching at straws aren’t you 😂 |
There are no straws left mate.
The lorry driver for straws went back to Poland.
We cant make our own because gas prices are too high.
Because we closed our gas storage facilities in 2017. Brilliant.
No shortage of straws in the north of Ireland though, they just buy them from Dublin.
Demand for straws has dipped due to taking £20 a week from some of the poorest families.
And feck Johnson. [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 20:09]
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| Polexit? on 20:17 - Oct 11 with 875 views | 73__73 |
| Polexit? on 20:08 - Oct 11 by Kilkennyjack |
There are no straws left mate.
The lorry driver for straws went back to Poland.
We cant make our own because gas prices are too high.
Because we closed our gas storage facilities in 2017. Brilliant.
No shortage of straws in the north of Ireland though, they just buy them from Dublin.
Demand for straws has dipped due to taking £20 a week from some of the poorest families.
And feck Johnson. [Post edited 11 Oct 2021 20:09]
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And yet you still live in the U.K. 😂
We are moving away from a low wage economy , which you support. | |
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| Polexit? on 21:52 - Oct 11 with 839 views | Flashberryjack |
| Polexit? on 20:17 - Oct 11 by 73__73 |
And yet you still live in the U.K. 😂
We are moving away from a low wage economy , which you support. |
He loves it here mun, probably the only connection he has with Eire, is he drank a few pints of Guinness once upon a time.  | |
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| Polexit? on 22:35 - Oct 11 with 831 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Polexit? on 20:17 - Oct 11 by 73__73 |
And yet you still live in the U.K. 😂
We are moving away from a low wage economy , which you support. |
The high wage line is another Tory lie. | |
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| Polexit? on 05:46 - Oct 12 with 804 views | 73__73 |
| Polexit? on 22:35 - Oct 11 by Kilkennyjack |
The high wage line is another Tory lie. |
Obviously you don’t even understand simple economics. Why am I not surprised 😂
Supply and demand. | |
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| Polexit? on 09:06 - Oct 12 with 766 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Polexit? on 22:35 - Oct 11 by Kilkennyjack |
The high wage line is another Tory lie. |
Latest figures from the independent ONS released today show average wages rose again in August.
Make your latest claim look even sillier than usual.
Employment rate now higher than before pandemic, higher than when we in the EU.
1,200,000 job vacancies no excuse for you not to get a job now. | |
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| Polexit? on 22:18 - Oct 14 with 631 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Polexit? on 09:06 - Oct 12 by felixstowe_jack |
Latest figures from the independent ONS released today show average wages rose again in August.
Make your latest claim look even sillier than usual.
Employment rate now higher than before pandemic, higher than when we in the EU.
1,200,000 job vacancies no excuse for you not to get a job now. |
Listen, 3 workers are paid £20, £30, and £40.
Average is £30.
If you then sack the fella on £20, the average magically becomes £35.
The average has gone up.
But its not a good thing for any of them.
One has lost his job and the other 2 have had no pay rise at all.
I know you wont understand this. ✊🾠| |
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| Polexit? on 17:02 - Oct 15 with 583 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Polexit? on 22:18 - Oct 14 by Kilkennyjack |
Listen, 3 workers are paid £20, £30, and £40.
Average is £30.
If you then sack the fella on £20, the average magically becomes £35.
The average has gone up.
But its not a good thing for any of them.
One has lost his job and the other 2 have had no pay rise at all.
I know you wont understand this. ✊🾠|
Trouble is another 250,000 joined the work force last month so your silly example of 3 people working and 33% of them getting sacked is utter nonsense when 32.4 million are working.
Did you see the forecast from the highly regarded German institute of fiscal studies today. The have reduced their forecast of German GDP growth from 3.7% to 2.6% in 2021. The reason they have downgraded it, bottlenecks in the EU and German supply chains.
It this because of Brexit or the pandemic? [Post edited 15 Oct 2021 20:14]
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| Polexit? on 15:19 - Oct 27 with 433 views | felixstowe_jack |
I see the EU has imposed a €1 million daily fine on Poland because Poland has disobeyed the orders of the EU empire. I would if France will also be fined for ignoring EU diktacs when it suits them. | |
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| Polexit? on 15:28 - Oct 27 with 430 views | Boundy |
| Polexit? on 13:29 - Oct 10 by controversial_jack |
Let them go then. Another country will take their place. |
Who , another 3rd rate country who's economy is indebted to Germany or France , we've seen how Romania has improved the lives of this countries citizens . | |
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| Polexit? on 17:43 - Oct 27 with 398 views | Catullus |
| Polexit? on 22:18 - Oct 14 by Kilkennyjack |
Listen, 3 workers are paid £20, £30, and £40.
Average is £30.
If you then sack the fella on £20, the average magically becomes £35.
The average has gone up.
But its not a good thing for any of them.
One has lost his job and the other 2 have had no pay rise at all.
I know you wont understand this. ✊🾠|
Well today people on minimum wage got a 6.6% pay rise up to 9.50 per hour. Sunak has cut business tax to help out small businesses, lets wait and see if Drakeford does anything to help small Welsh businesses. | |
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| Polexit? on 16:40 - Nov 11 with 309 views | felixstowe_jack |
A further escalation on the Polish Belarus border. The EU has threatened new sanctions and Belarus had threatened to stop supplies of Russian natural gas by closing the pipeline between Russia and the EU which passes through Belarus.
The world natural gas price increased by 5% today. | |
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