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As good a time as any to start the madness and have a couple of years worth of back and forth of opinions.
My prediction last year was that Biden unfortunately will probably just win, he did. Next election I absolutely think Trump comes in for his second term, I made that clear very early on.
Not a great night for the Democrats, losing the Virginia gubernatorial election. Not great signs for them in next year's midterms or for Biden's prospects of re-election.
I also think he will be allowed to run the country free of mass interference from the media too and believe that the social warriors will be far too beaten down by 4 years of Biden/Harris to kick up much of a fuss past the initial anger that their enemy is being voted in again.
I think deep down it’s dawning on people that whether you like him as a person or not, his administration is far better than the realistic alternatives and the negatives of his Presidency (riots, violence, domestic unrest) are aspects created by the complainants and the media themselves.
The country needs economic regrowth and proper international leadership currently. It’s fair to say Biden has been a disaster on both fronts, as many assumed would be the case.
So the race for 2024 begins.
Strap in.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
2024 Presidential race on 02:39 - Nov 8 by YouBackJastard
Trump lost the popular vote by seven million people. Twice the population of Wales and then some, as the incumbent!. He barely squeaked in past Clinton, the most unpopular runner in history (hyperbole), I heavily doubt the Dems will put up a worse candidate than the previous two.
The most notable things Trump has done in the eyes of the average citizen since the election is called it rigged and contributed to January 6th. The repubs are desperate to rebuild their image as the 'grown ups in the room' instead of whatever Trump was. He won't be anywhere near the democratic process come 2024
"The repubs are desperate to rebuild their image as the 'grown ups in the room' instead of whatever Trump was. He won't be anywhere near the democratic process come 2024"
NOPE.
All they care about is power. If Trump is seen as the one likely for them to get it then they will fall in line behind him. Just like Lindsey Graham and the rest of them last time.
If he doesn't run - i.e. he collected money for a run but decides to keep the mullah then De Santis WILL run and he will be Trumpian in his approach.
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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2024 Presidential race on 04:35 - Nov 8 with 1148 views
"The repubs are desperate to rebuild their image as the 'grown ups in the room' instead of whatever Trump was. He won't be anywhere near the democratic process come 2024"
NOPE.
All they care about is power. If Trump is seen as the one likely for them to get it then they will fall in line behind him. Just like Lindsey Graham and the rest of them last time.
If he doesn't run - i.e. he collected money for a run but decides to keep the mullah then De Santis WILL run and he will be Trumpian in his approach.
If they want to stay in power, the way I suggested is probably their best bet to win over the moderate vote unless they're supremely confident divisive Trumpian attitude is the way to go.
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2024 Presidential race on 08:12 - Nov 8 with 1133 views
2024 Presidential race on 02:39 - Nov 8 by YouBackJastard
Trump lost the popular vote by seven million people. Twice the population of Wales and then some, as the incumbent!. He barely squeaked in past Clinton, the most unpopular runner in history (hyperbole), I heavily doubt the Dems will put up a worse candidate than the previous two.
The most notable things Trump has done in the eyes of the average citizen since the election is called it rigged and contributed to January 6th. The repubs are desperate to rebuild their image as the 'grown ups in the room' instead of whatever Trump was. He won't be anywhere near the democratic process come 2024
He did indeed, as I said, that’s an incredible achievement considering what he was up against. And to increase on all the demographics that the media were trying to turn against him. Seriously impressive numbers.
The average citizen has seen them have the highest family median income in history, lowest up employment in history and highest production in history slide away and be faced with increased taxes and inflation through the roof.
That’s what the average citizen cares about. More money in their pocket, the ability to put food on the table. The pay cheque going as far as it can.
The chants going around the sports stadiums and public gatherings are very telling “fk Joe Biden!” (Repeat until fade). Where as Donald seems to be getting an incredible reception everywhere he goes.
He is quite rightly the favourite for the Presidency already, and as touched upon, that is remarkable considering he hasn’t officially confirmed he will be running.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
2024 Presidential race on 08:12 - Nov 8 by Dr_Parnassus
He did indeed, as I said, that’s an incredible achievement considering what he was up against. And to increase on all the demographics that the media were trying to turn against him. Seriously impressive numbers.
The average citizen has seen them have the highest family median income in history, lowest up employment in history and highest production in history slide away and be faced with increased taxes and inflation through the roof.
That’s what the average citizen cares about. More money in their pocket, the ability to put food on the table. The pay cheque going as far as it can.
The chants going around the sports stadiums and public gatherings are very telling “fk Joe Biden!” (Repeat until fade). Where as Donald seems to be getting an incredible reception everywhere he goes.
He is quite rightly the favourite for the Presidency already, and as touched upon, that is remarkable considering he hasn’t officially confirmed he will be running.
So when it comes to football its data data data but with politics it's 'he gets chanted at in sports stadiums'?
Incredible coping mechanism on show.
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2024 Presidential race on 09:15 - Nov 8 with 1098 views
2024 Presidential race on 08:58 - Nov 8 by YouBackJastard
So when it comes to football its data data data but with politics it's 'he gets chanted at in sports stadiums'?
Incredible coping mechanism on show.
Not sure what you are trying to say there.
With football - data backs up what I see, not the other way around. It’s visual proof that what I saw was accurate.
As for politics - I just reeled off a bunch of facts for you, what more are you looking for? Or are you just looking for conflict again on this new account?
Again, lowest unemployment in history, highest family median income in history, first President not to send troops to a new conflict, peace deals in the Middle East (which Obama called impossible), lessened the North Korean threat, border under control, better trade deals with China… I could go on and on.
That’s politics, yet I’m the only one who seems keen to talk about such things. Others want to talk about ridiculous and unimportant things. If you wish to discuss politics then let’s have a discussion, stop being so confrontational and argumentative.
As I said, all these things have regressed and this is what the average voter sees. Daily impact on their lives, it can be measured everytime they fill up the petrol tank or go food shopping.
This can be seen by the widespread condemnation of Biden where as Trump is being cheered en masse seemingly whenever he makes a public appearance. It’s absolutely telling.
You can be upset at those statements if you like. I’m just telling it how it is.
[Post edited 8 Nov 2021 9:21]
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
These chants are cropping up all over the country:-
Where as Trump walks in to the UFC to rapturous cheers and ovation. With spontaneous chants of “USA!”. I think people have had enough of the country hating sympathisers already. It was always going to be the case:-
I don’t listen much to polls, especially ones involving Trump, but I would find it very difficult to argue with the conclusion here, it’s my feelings also:-
A slew of new polls have come out this week showing the shrinking support for and approval of President Joe Biden, his average now below 50%.
But today, Rasmussen Reports is issuing the capper, telling Secrets that in an election do-over, Biden would lose to former President Donald Trump.
By a six-point margin, 43%-37%, likely voters would pick Trump over Biden “if the next presidential election were held today.”
The details of the survey, which samples more Democrats than Republicans, showed that Trump would win more women and blacks than he did in 2020 when he lost to Biden, 46.8%-51.3%.
A sizable 14% would choose “some other candidate,” though none were named.
The survey comes at a key point in Biden’s presidency. He is now under fire for bungling America’s withdrawal from Afghanistan, increasing inflation, and spiraling crime.
Several other surveys out this week have shown his approval rating underwater, a place Trump floated for much of his presidency.
Today, Axios headlined, “Biden's average approval rating drops below 50% for first time.” It cited poll trackers from FiveThirtyEight and RealClearPolitics.
The site added, “This marks a precipitous decline from the FiveThirtyEight peak of 55.1% in March and the RCP peak of 55.7% in April.”
Despite showing Trump edging Biden in an election today, most told Rasmussen that they do not regret their 2020 vote. Some 89% said so, led by 95% of Republicans. For Democrats, it was less, 87%.
[Post edited 8 Nov 2021 9:35]
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
I don’t like saying this and I’m sure he’s subject to a lot of medical checks but from my experience of seeing some family members going through it Biden seems to be affected by some sort of dementia. I saw a video of him the other day and he was walking stiffly with his fists clenched out in front of him. That is exactly what my grandfather started doing when he started getting symptoms. We used to ask him why he was doing it and he never even realised he was doing it. He also started slurring his speech and losing his train of thought halfway through a sentence just like Biden does.
Obviously I’m not a doctor and I’m sure the president would have the best professionals around him so I’m probably wrong but the way he walks and talks and has that sort of vacant look brings back bad memories for me.
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2024 Presidential race on 11:00 - Nov 8 with 1055 views
I don’t like saying this and I’m sure he’s subject to a lot of medical checks but from my experience of seeing some family members going through it Biden seems to be affected by some sort of dementia. I saw a video of him the other day and he was walking stiffly with his fists clenched out in front of him. That is exactly what my grandfather started doing when he started getting symptoms. We used to ask him why he was doing it and he never even realised he was doing it. He also started slurring his speech and losing his train of thought halfway through a sentence just like Biden does.
Obviously I’m not a doctor and I’m sure the president would have the best professionals around him so I’m probably wrong but the way he walks and talks and has that sort of vacant look brings back bad memories for me.
Here we go, found it. This is exactly how he used to clench his fists and never realised he was doing it.
they were taking about Biden having dementia before he won. He isn't called sleepy Joe for nothing as he proved at the COP.
Trump has to win the nomination before he can stand. His supporters chanting in a sports stadium doesn't mean so very much. A few thousand people is not a sign of mass support across the country. he may have the same support levels as during the election but that doesn't win the election. Polls are unreliable. they are often tainted by selective targeting, loaded questions and even downright cheating by presenting the results in as favourable a way as possible. They have even been known to cut selections out and ignore them. There is only one poll that matters.
Biden can be entirely useless, it doesn't make Trump good. In the same way that Starmer being useless opposition doesn't make Bojo good,
2024 Presidential race on 13:53 - Nov 8 by Catullus
they were taking about Biden having dementia before he won. He isn't called sleepy Joe for nothing as he proved at the COP.
Trump has to win the nomination before he can stand. His supporters chanting in a sports stadium doesn't mean so very much. A few thousand people is not a sign of mass support across the country. he may have the same support levels as during the election but that doesn't win the election. Polls are unreliable. they are often tainted by selective targeting, loaded questions and even downright cheating by presenting the results in as favourable a way as possible. They have even been known to cut selections out and ignore them. There is only one poll that matters.
Biden can be entirely useless, it doesn't make Trump good. In the same way that Starmer being useless opposition doesn't make Bojo good,
How the hell was he allowed to run with dementia? How is he still in office? I see him sometimes and I feel so sorry for him. Hopefully his symptoms are mild and he can still remain independent, with my grandad it was quite stable for a number of years and he just went downhill overnight.
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2024 Presidential race on 19:10 - Nov 8 with 993 views
2024 Presidential race on 13:53 - Nov 8 by Catullus
they were taking about Biden having dementia before he won. He isn't called sleepy Joe for nothing as he proved at the COP.
Trump has to win the nomination before he can stand. His supporters chanting in a sports stadium doesn't mean so very much. A few thousand people is not a sign of mass support across the country. he may have the same support levels as during the election but that doesn't win the election. Polls are unreliable. they are often tainted by selective targeting, loaded questions and even downright cheating by presenting the results in as favourable a way as possible. They have even been known to cut selections out and ignore them. There is only one poll that matters.
Biden can be entirely useless, it doesn't make Trump good. In the same way that Starmer being useless opposition doesn't make Bojo good,
Spot on.
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2024 Presidential race on 21:44 - Nov 8 with 968 views
2024 Presidential race on 09:32 - Nov 8 by Dr_Parnassus
These chants are cropping up all over the country:-
Where as Trump walks in to the UFC to rapturous cheers and ovation. With spontaneous chants of “USA!”. I think people have had enough of the country hating sympathisers already. It was always going to be the case:-
I don’t listen much to polls, especially ones involving Trump, but I would find it very difficult to argue with the conclusion here, it’s my feelings also:-
A slew of new polls have come out this week showing the shrinking support for and approval of President Joe Biden, his average now below 50%.
But today, Rasmussen Reports is issuing the capper, telling Secrets that in an election do-over, Biden would lose to former President Donald Trump.
By a six-point margin, 43%-37%, likely voters would pick Trump over Biden “if the next presidential election were held today.”
The details of the survey, which samples more Democrats than Republicans, showed that Trump would win more women and blacks than he did in 2020 when he lost to Biden, 46.8%-51.3%.
A sizable 14% would choose “some other candidate,” though none were named.
The survey comes at a key point in Biden’s presidency. He is now under fire for bungling America’s withdrawal from Afghanistan, increasing inflation, and spiraling crime.
Several other surveys out this week have shown his approval rating underwater, a place Trump floated for much of his presidency.
Today, Axios headlined, “Biden's average approval rating drops below 50% for first time.” It cited poll trackers from FiveThirtyEight and RealClearPolitics.
The site added, “This marks a precipitous decline from the FiveThirtyEight peak of 55.1% in March and the RCP peak of 55.7% in April.”
Despite showing Trump edging Biden in an election today, most told Rasmussen that they do not regret their 2020 vote. Some 89% said so, led by 95% of Republicans. For Democrats, it was less, 87%.
[Post edited 8 Nov 2021 9:35]
The FJB/Let's Go Brandon movement is much, much bigger than I think anyone outside of America could fathom. If anything, the media is still doing it's best to downplay it. But it's practically everywhere you go, not just sporting events.
Not sure about your numbers in the last paragraph, but even a few months before the country began to really fall apart in 2021, at least 6% of Biden voters have said they would have never voted for him had they known about the Hunter Biden laptop, and all it did to expose how the Biden family has been running an elaborate business of selling access to Brandon. Of course, that story was fully censored by social media and the press, using the nonsensical bullshit argument that it might have been "Russian disinformation."
The FJB/Let's Go Brandon movement is much, much bigger than I think anyone outside of America could fathom. If anything, the media is still doing it's best to downplay it. But it's practically everywhere you go, not just sporting events.
Not sure about your numbers in the last paragraph, but even a few months before the country began to really fall apart in 2021, at least 6% of Biden voters have said they would have never voted for him had they known about the Hunter Biden laptop, and all it did to expose how the Biden family has been running an elaborate business of selling access to Brandon. Of course, that story was fully censored by social media and the press, using the nonsensical bullshit argument that it might have been "Russian disinformation."
[Post edited 8 Nov 2021 22:08]
😂
How’d 06th January work out in the end ?
America loves Sleepy Joe. The world hates Trump.
Beware of the Risen People
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2024 Presidential race on 23:29 - Nov 8 with 920 views
2024 Presidential race on 13:53 - Nov 8 by Catullus
they were taking about Biden having dementia before he won. He isn't called sleepy Joe for nothing as he proved at the COP.
Trump has to win the nomination before he can stand. His supporters chanting in a sports stadium doesn't mean so very much. A few thousand people is not a sign of mass support across the country. he may have the same support levels as during the election but that doesn't win the election. Polls are unreliable. they are often tainted by selective targeting, loaded questions and even downright cheating by presenting the results in as favourable a way as possible. They have even been known to cut selections out and ignore them. There is only one poll that matters.
Biden can be entirely useless, it doesn't make Trump good. In the same way that Starmer being useless opposition doesn't make Bojo good,
Well no, you have to stand first in order to enter the nomination process. If he decides to stand then the nomination seems a formality as far as I’m concerned. It would be crazy to with any other candidate.
How do you deduce they are “his supporters”? These are random sports events not partisan rallies, it should be a mix shouldn’t it? In fact, there should technically be more Biden supporters going by the split compared to the vote, yet it doesn’t sound like that does it for both Trump and Biden whenever they make a public appearance at a randomly generated gathering like that.
I agree, I don’t like polls at all when it comes fo taking their accuracy to the number on board. But usually they do tend to pick up on trends. For example last election some polls have Biden a 95% chance of winning, just ludicrous. Where I stated it should be around 60% (which if then was by the time it started).
I find the conclusion a hard one to disagree with, I can’t think of too many reasons those that voted Biden would prefer they lives now than 2 years ago. Unemployment is high, inflation is high, mass border crisis for those that live in the south, horrific foreign affairs, a man at the helm clearly in cognitive decline.
I would say events, added to poll studies, added to public reaction at random gatherings, added to him being favourite for President despite not confirming he’s running all back up the fact that the appetite is to go back to how it was.
There isn’t too much to back the opposite, is there?
Happy to hear them if so.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
I dare say Biden and the Democrats will attempt to complete the January 6th probe ASAP and they’ll be hoping there is overwhelming evidence to incriminate Trump, I dare say they’ll also be hoping the various criminal investigations uncover enough wrong doing to initiate criminal proceedings.
Trump will throw as many spanners in to works as possible and they to delay disclosure of documents etc in the hope he can hold out until the republicans win control of the house and torpedo proceedings.
I’d hazard a guess lots of the ambitious Republicans hanging on to Trumps coat tails would secretly be happy to see Trump crash and burn whilst at the same time expressing faux loyalty do as to be able to tap in to his support base.
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2024 Presidential race on 02:47 - Nov 9 with 889 views
2024 Presidential race on 23:53 - Nov 8 by majorraglan
I dare say Biden and the Democrats will attempt to complete the January 6th probe ASAP and they’ll be hoping there is overwhelming evidence to incriminate Trump, I dare say they’ll also be hoping the various criminal investigations uncover enough wrong doing to initiate criminal proceedings.
Trump will throw as many spanners in to works as possible and they to delay disclosure of documents etc in the hope he can hold out until the republicans win control of the house and torpedo proceedings.
I’d hazard a guess lots of the ambitious Republicans hanging on to Trumps coat tails would secretly be happy to see Trump crash and burn whilst at the same time expressing faux loyalty do as to be able to tap in to his support base.
Blaming Jan 6th on Trump is ridiculous anyway, let alone criminally. There is no legs to that avenue for the Democrats. Their best avenue to stop people turning to the Trump administration was to simply do a good job, something they are finding very hard to do.
Also important to note that this is ‘the people’ that would be voting for him, not just “his supporters” as such. Half the voting country.
There is a tendency, initiated by the media, that only “his supporters” vote for him. As opposed the the overwhelming majority being normal voting folk that vote on the best candidate available and one that would have greater impact on their day to day lives.
74 million would be one hell of a “support base”. As much as I’m sure he would like to think that is the case, it’s clearly not.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
2024 Presidential race on 23:13 - Nov 15 by Kilkennyjack
Your second main man has lost his cool, warra fanny ….
Sleepy Joe sorted Trump - and now he is after Bannon.
Gwan Joe …. ☘ï¸ðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸
My second main man?
Have I ever mentioned his name on here? I have no interest in him whatsoever.
My view is the Trump administration is the better one for America. That is proving itself to be correct.
My view is also that the public view is shifting after some very public exposing of the media and the way they frame things. People are waking up and probably feeling like they have been taken for fools.
He is now favourite for President without even confirming he’s running, these odds are based off a lot of data regarding people’s opinions and approval trends. So that would also suggest that is correct.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
2024 Presidential race on 23:37 - Nov 15 by Dr_Parnassus
My second main man?
Have I ever mentioned his name on here? I have no interest in him whatsoever.
My view is the Trump administration is the better one for America. That is proving itself to be correct.
My view is also that the public view is shifting after some very public exposing of the media and the way they frame things. People are waking up and probably feeling like they have been taken for fools.
He is now favourite for President without even confirming he’s running, these odds are based off a lot of data regarding people’s opinions and approval trends. So that would also suggest that is correct.
Can you be Mr President in jail ?
That is where Mr Trump is going. Its the way they snare the mob, Trump will be last.
Watch this space.
Beware of the Risen People
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2024 Presidential race on 20:58 - Nov 16 with 544 views
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