| The message is still the same from Russell Martin 08:45 - Dec 5 with 1507 views | SwansIndependent |
 The message is still the same from Russell Martin 5th Dec 2021 08:43Swansea City are continuing to confuse their critics. They are also failing to convince Russell Martin devotees there is a clear pathway forwards in a season where people continue to forget that it’s one of alleged ‘transition’ Steve Cooper spent two seasons promising everything but delivering nothing, whilst Russell Martin continues to promise more but in some fans minds isn’t achieving.  0
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 21:34 - Dec 5 with 441 views | Boundy |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 20:14 - Dec 5 by vetchonian |
We were a work in progress in Roberto's first season but we saw progress, Sousa season was a transition season but we did well, Brendan's first and second seasons were transiton and Laudrups first season was one of transition yet we achieved results in all of these
When do we stop being a work in progress?
Football teams are always a work in progress the issue is how that work in progress is managed....
Martin has an ego/arrogance which sometimes can be a good thing but in his case I think it is a weakness which affects his judgement.
IF you look back at his time at MKDons he achieved little but topped the possession stats while all the time saying be patient we are building....18 months he was still building.
I wonder about his man management skills...much has been made of Whittaker so called attitude issue this season...it did seem to be around last season...maybe its related to Martins insistence on selecting and playing Cullen
The thing with Martin is he sets up the team to play the same way whoever the opposition and looks to keep the ball over using the ball.
There is a famous Einstein quote "the definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
This is Martin's mantra....we do the same things all the time....why is Smith playing before Natcham or Fulton...
There are more questions than answers....good managers whatever walk of life learn Martin doesn't seem to be learning and is stubbornly keeping to his agenda |
We were a work in progress in Roberto's first season but we saw progress, Sousa season was a transition season but we did well, Brendan's first and second seasons were transiton and Laudrups first season was one of transition yet we achieved results in all of these
I didn't realise the season finished in December | |
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 21:48 - Dec 5 with 428 views | max936 |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 21:08 - Dec 5 by vetchonian |
My point about Martins previous history is he was doing and saying the same things he does not seem to showing any sign of learning from what didnt work and what did work...he is using the same script.
We have won 5 in 11 games and 1 game in the last 5 and that against a side that has only won twice this season and who would be bottom of the league if it were not for points deductions.
We are not progressing we are regressing if you look at the last 6 games results.
Yes we had chances yesterday that were not converted we had similar last season we had missed opportunities when the likes of Lowe failed to connect with a ball that was in the box...we also had our fair share of referee decisions going against us....it happens to every side in every league yet it seems this is being used as more of a defence of our manager.
I really want him to do well rather I want him to sort things out so the team does well...the current squad is better than we have had for a while a backline of Laird, Naughtin Bennet, Manning Bidwell is not bad, or Laird, Naughton,Cabango,Manning Bidwell would be strong in this league yet Martin seems reluctant to choose this Naugthton could still be the fulcrum to pass the ball out...or even get Downes to drop back to collect as Britton did . Why pick a 30 year old over 27 year old Fulton....Smith certainly is not tearing up great performances? |
The omission of Fulton is baffling, not even a chance, I'm losing patience with Martin especially after yesterdays dour performance, on that showing I can't see us finishing much above where we are now +/- a place or two from where we are. |  |
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 23:14 - Dec 5 with 400 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 20:14 - Dec 5 by vetchonian |
We were a work in progress in Roberto's first season but we saw progress, Sousa season was a transition season but we did well, Brendan's first and second seasons were transiton and Laudrups first season was one of transition yet we achieved results in all of these
When do we stop being a work in progress?
Football teams are always a work in progress the issue is how that work in progress is managed....
Martin has an ego/arrogance which sometimes can be a good thing but in his case I think it is a weakness which affects his judgement.
IF you look back at his time at MKDons he achieved little but topped the possession stats while all the time saying be patient we are building....18 months he was still building.
I wonder about his man management skills...much has been made of Whittaker so called attitude issue this season...it did seem to be around last season...maybe its related to Martins insistence on selecting and playing Cullen
The thing with Martin is he sets up the team to play the same way whoever the opposition and looks to keep the ball over using the ball.
There is a famous Einstein quote "the definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
This is Martin's mantra....we do the same things all the time....why is Smith playing before Natcham or Fulton...
There are more questions than answers....good managers whatever walk of life learn Martin doesn't seem to be learning and is stubbornly keeping to his agenda |
We’ve seen progress this season, four wins out of 5 and some great attacking football. Now we’ve lost our way a little bit - we must play our best 11 and stop trying to please klopp |  |
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 23:19 - Dec 5 with 390 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 23:14 - Dec 5 by Brynmill_Jack |
We’ve seen progress this season, four wins out of 5 and some great attacking football. Now we’ve lost our way a little bit - we must play our best 11 and stop trying to please klopp |
Our attacking football is down on last season.
We have won 1 of our last 5 as our style seems to have actively been switched back to when we first started the season.
That’s regression not progression, by definition. |  |
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 23:43 - Dec 5 with 384 views | Fireboy2 |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 23:14 - Dec 5 by Brynmill_Jack |
We’ve seen progress this season, four wins out of 5 and some great attacking football. Now we’ve lost our way a little bit - we must play our best 11 and stop trying to please klopp |
After yesterday's dour performance from williams surely he won't play again before bring sent back to liverpool. |  | | |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 00:27 - Dec 6 with 375 views | builthjack |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 23:43 - Dec 5 by Fireboy2 |
After yesterday's dour performance from williams surely he won't play again before bring sent back to liverpool. |
Has to go back to the dippers. Now. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 00:29 - Dec 6 with 369 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 00:27 - Dec 6 by builthjack |
Has to go back to the dippers. Now. |
Patience surely? | |
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 05:56 - Dec 6 with 338 views | Badlands |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 23:19 - Dec 5 by Dr_Parnassus |
Our attacking football is down on last season.
We have won 1 of our last 5 as our style seems to have actively been switched back to when we first started the season.
That’s regression not progression, by definition. |
Same period 2019
No wins in 6
3 points
Short memory? |  |
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 07:07 - Dec 6 with 319 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 05:56 - Dec 6 by Badlands |
Same period 2019
No wins in 6
3 points
Short memory? |
After 21 games:-
2019/20 - 34 points
2020/21 - 39 points
2021/22 - 27 points | |
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 10:18 - Dec 6 with 275 views | Boundy |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 00:29 - Dec 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
Patience surely? |
Why ? he's not ours | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 10:24 - Dec 6 with 269 views | vetchonian |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 00:27 - Dec 6 by builthjack |
Has to go back to the dippers. Now. |
Wasnt he Martins choice? | |
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 10:25 - Dec 6 with 267 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 10:18 - Dec 6 by Boundy |
Why ? he's not ours |
We knew he wasn’t ours when we decided to take him on.
If the theme of this year is patience then why are we giving up on players for bad performances? What if Williams thinks he will improve given time?
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| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 11:07 - Dec 6 with 255 views | vetchonian |
| The message is still the same from Russell Martin on 10:25 - Dec 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
We knew he wasn’t ours when we decided to take him on.
If the theme of this year is patience then why are we giving up on players for bad performances? What if Williams thinks he will improve given time?
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I rememebr similar being said about Geuhi in his early appearances....look how that turned out.. | |
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