| Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 152317 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Discuss.
Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.
But that’s another debate.
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:22 - Apr 17 with 994 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:41 - Apr 16 by Scotia |
I'd be amazed if there's any film of it, why would there be? |
Every action a modern warship takes would be filmed and recorded. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:30 - Apr 17 with 991 views | majorraglan |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:22 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Every action a modern warship takes would be filmed and recorded. |
Not if there’s no other vessel around to film the action, if the ship happened to be sending footage via a web cam to a command centre in Russia the Kremlin is hardly likely to release film of missiles slamming in to the ship. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:02 - Apr 17 with 971 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:22 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Every action a modern warship takes would be filmed and recorded. |
Hope the film's water proof | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:27 - Apr 17 with 959 views | Scotia |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 10:22 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Every action a modern warship takes would be filmed and recorded. |
Would it? Do you think the Russians would happily let the Ukrainian navy or NATO get within filming distance for longer than a few seconds at a time of war? | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:52 - Apr 17 with 950 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:27 - Apr 17 by Scotia |
Would it? Do you think the Russians would happily let the Ukrainian navy or NATO get within filming distance for longer than a few seconds at a time of war? |
Other vessels would have filmed it - the ships that rescued the crew and it would have had air cover and the aircraft would have had cameras too, These ships are never alone | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:58 - Apr 17 with 943 views | 73__73 |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:52 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Other vessels would have filmed it - the ships that rescued the crew and it would have had air cover and the aircraft would have had cameras too, These ships are never alone |
Fair play you are barking mad. | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 12:03 - Apr 17 with 943 views | Scotia |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:52 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Other vessels would have filmed it - the ships that rescued the crew and it would have had air cover and the aircraft would have had cameras too, These ships are never alone |
So you think the Russians would freely release that footage to the world? | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 16:23 - Apr 17 with 904 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:02 - Apr 17 by Boundy |
Hope the film's water proof |
The film is fine but the cameraman was last seen desperately clinging onto a bit of floating wood just off the coast of Bulgaria. | | | |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:27 - Apr 17 with 887 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 16:23 - Apr 17 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
The film is fine but the cameraman was last seen desperately clinging onto a bit of floating wood just off the coast of Bulgaria. |
Everything a warship or aircraft does in wartime is recorded | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:51 - Apr 17 with 876 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:27 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Everything a warship or aircraft does in wartime is recorded |
It’s not wartime though according to your midget hero in the Kremlin | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:16 - Apr 17 with 858 views | Scotia |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:27 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Everything a warship or aircraft does in wartime is recorded |
Not everything is and not necessarily not necessarily by moving image.
How do you think the yanks claim to know it was hit by two missiles fired from Odessa?
Is it coincidence tgst since the Moksva exploded Russia has targeted Kyiv again? | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:22 - Apr 17 with 857 views | shingle |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:27 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Everything a warship or aircraft does in wartime is recorded |
What war , The Russians have said it is a special operation are you saying they are misleading us and lying to us.  | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:32 - Apr 17 with 848 views | Boundy |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:27 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Everything a warship or aircraft does in wartime is recorded |
Like everything you post is a fact ? | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:14 - Apr 17 with 834 views | Lorax |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:27 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Everything a warship or aircraft does in wartime is recorded |
Ah, I think I understand now, the problem here is, Contro hasn't actually been watching the news. he's been on Sky movies by mistake.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1440129/
Come on Contro, own up, do you really think Putin would give us the footage of his prized Warship sinking? | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:15 - Apr 17 with 834 views | majorraglan |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 11:52 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Other vessels would have filmed it - the ships that rescued the crew and it would have had air cover and the aircraft would have had cameras too, These ships are never alone |
Other vessels film it, like who more Russian ships? If Russian ships were nearby and filming, if the Moskva had sank as a result of an internal fire I’d have thought Putin would be releasing all the footage he has to rebut the Ukrainian claims - strange he hadn’t to date! Why would the Moskva need air cover, it’s role is to provide air cover for other ships in the fleet.
From what we’re told the ship which rescued the sailors was a Turkish freighter, do you think the Russians would just allow themselves to be followed and filmed by any old tug?
You’re having a mare, go for a walk and clear your head. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:41 - Apr 17 with 824 views | Lorax |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:15 - Apr 17 by majorraglan |
Other vessels film it, like who more Russian ships? If Russian ships were nearby and filming, if the Moskva had sank as a result of an internal fire I’d have thought Putin would be releasing all the footage he has to rebut the Ukrainian claims - strange he hadn’t to date! Why would the Moskva need air cover, it’s role is to provide air cover for other ships in the fleet.
From what we’re told the ship which rescued the sailors was a Turkish freighter, do you think the Russians would just allow themselves to be followed and filmed by any old tug?
You’re having a mare, go for a walk and clear your head. |
Modern warships have quite good fire suppression systems, it's not so likely a fire woud have sunk the thing unless the fire was caused by a missile strike, or three!
It was the Moskva not the Marie Rose. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:25 - Apr 17 with 805 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:15 - Apr 17 by majorraglan |
Other vessels film it, like who more Russian ships? If Russian ships were nearby and filming, if the Moskva had sank as a result of an internal fire I’d have thought Putin would be releasing all the footage he has to rebut the Ukrainian claims - strange he hadn’t to date! Why would the Moskva need air cover, it’s role is to provide air cover for other ships in the fleet.
From what we’re told the ship which rescued the sailors was a Turkish freighter, do you think the Russians would just allow themselves to be followed and filmed by any old tug?
You’re having a mare, go for a walk and clear your head. |
It's role is to provide air cover for other ships? It's a cruiser not an aircraft carrier. It would have had air cover itself, all fleet ships do
Would Russians allow themselves to be followed? There's nothing they can do about is, just as the Royal Navy can't do anything about other ships watching it either | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:31 - Apr 17 with 801 views | Scotia |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:25 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
It's role is to provide air cover for other ships? It's a cruiser not an aircraft carrier. It would have had air cover itself, all fleet ships do
Would Russians allow themselves to be followed? There's nothing they can do about is, just as the Royal Navy can't do anything about other ships watching it either |
But watching isn't necessarily filming is it? They're being monitored is probably more accurate. | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:57 - Apr 17 with 787 views | majorraglan |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:25 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
It's role is to provide air cover for other ships? It's a cruiser not an aircraft carrier. It would have had air cover itself, all fleet ships do
Would Russians allow themselves to be followed? There's nothing they can do about is, just as the Royal Navy can't do anything about other ships watching it either |
I didn’t explain it well enough, one of its main functions is to protect other ships from air attack because it’s rammed with surface to air missiles, in theory it doesn’t need air cover. If it had air cover why didn’t the fighter jets deal with the drones? | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 01:45 - Apr 18 with 746 views | DJack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:27 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
Everything a warship or aircraft does in wartime is recorded |
That ship was hit by a missile/missiles. |  |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 08:05 - Apr 18 with 709 views | controversial_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 18:16 - Apr 17 by Scotia |
Not everything is and not necessarily not necessarily by moving image.
How do you think the yanks claim to know it was hit by two missiles fired from Odessa?
Is it coincidence tgst since the Moksva exploded Russia has targeted Kyiv again? |
The Yanks claim a lot of things | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 08:47 - Apr 18 with 699 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 08:05 - Apr 18 by controversial_jack |
The Yanks claim a lot of things |
So do the Russians.
They claim they have not invaded Ukraine.
They claim they are not at war.
They claim they are not killing civilians.
They claim they are not targeting civilians buildings.
They claim they are not executing civilians.
They claim they liberating people.
They claim they have had light casualties during special operations.
We all know these Russian claims are lies. [Post edited 18 Apr 2022 17:27]
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| Russia invade Ukraine on 16:48 - Apr 18 with 666 views | Scotia |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 08:05 - Apr 18 by controversial_jack |
The Yanks claim a lot of things |
Well it would seem to be correct or is it coincidence that the day after the Moskva blew itself up the Russians targeted the munitions factory that builds Neptune anti ship missiles? | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 17:05 - Apr 18 with 659 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
Any truth in the rumour Vladimir Putin has no willy and is trying to compensate? | | | |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 19:44 - Apr 18 with 634 views | Lorax |
| Russia invade Ukraine on 21:25 - Apr 17 by controversial_jack |
It's role is to provide air cover for other ships? It's a cruiser not an aircraft carrier. It would have had air cover itself, all fleet ships do
Would Russians allow themselves to be followed? There's nothing they can do about is, just as the Royal Navy can't do anything about other ships watching it either |
Moskva was Slava class, look it up. it's a guided missile cruiser but with no ground attack missiles. it's whole point is, or was, to provide air defence. Taken from Wiki,
"From the end of September 2015, while in the eastern Mediterranean, the cruiser was charged with the air defences for the Russian aviation group based near the Syrian town of Latakia that conducted the air campaign in Syria"
Moskva actually provided air defence for land based aircraft. | | | |
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