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Russia invade Ukraine 14:17 - Dec 23 with 147724 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Discuss.

Also why is Putin always described in the media as this rugged strongman? He’s barely five foot tall with his high heels on.

But that’s another debate.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 14:38 - Apr 24 with 748 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 14:09 - Apr 24 by Flynnidine_Zidownes

I’m not wrong. The nazi hatred for all things Slavic is a well documented and widely agreed upon historical fact. They took conscripts into the Waffen-SS (not the proper SS) largely because by that point they were getting battered like Cardiff everywhere they go but their status as very low down the food chain would not have changed. Hitler hated the idea but it was borne out of necessity.

The tall, blonde with blue eyes thing was an ideal, but any sort of pure Germanic ancestry would do.


Hitler, wasn't tall blonde or blue eyed, none of the NAZI hierarchy were, with the exception of Heydrich Hitler was Austrian, not German.

The Waffen SS were the real SS. Waffen, being the German word for weapon.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 14:44 - Apr 24 with 741 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 14:38 - Apr 24 by controversial_jack

Hitler, wasn't tall blonde or blue eyed, none of the NAZI hierarchy were, with the exception of Heydrich Hitler was Austrian, not German.

The Waffen SS were the real SS. Waffen, being the German word for weapon.


Ironically a lot of Ukrainians and Russians have blue eyes and blond hair

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Russia invade Ukraine on 14:49 - Apr 24 with 730 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 14:44 - Apr 24 by Brynmill_Jack

Ironically a lot of Ukrainians and Russians have blue eyes and blond hair


So do I , or did, before it turned grey
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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:10 - Apr 24 with 703 viewsLorax

Russia invade Ukraine on 14:09 - Apr 24 by Flynnidine_Zidownes

I’m not wrong. The nazi hatred for all things Slavic is a well documented and widely agreed upon historical fact. They took conscripts into the Waffen-SS (not the proper SS) largely because by that point they were getting battered like Cardiff everywhere they go but their status as very low down the food chain would not have changed. Hitler hated the idea but it was borne out of necessity.

The tall, blonde with blue eyes thing was an ideal, but any sort of pure Germanic ancestry would do.


Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. A Nazi didn't have to be German as long as he at least partly fitted the Aryan ideal. Even then, if anyone was happy to follow even the most barbaric orders, he was in.

Of course the Nazi's hated slavs, no one can dispute that.

Being German was no protection if you were Jewish, gypsy, disabled, Negroes, homosexuals, the unemployed, alcoholics or the very old and sick.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:20 - Apr 24 with 699 viewsLorax

Russia invade Ukraine on 14:38 - Apr 24 by controversial_jack

Hitler, wasn't tall blonde or blue eyed, none of the NAZI hierarchy were, with the exception of Heydrich Hitler was Austrian, not German.

The Waffen SS were the real SS. Waffen, being the German word for weapon.


the Waffen SS was just the military wing of the SS. The SS had originally been Hitlers bodyguard, a paramilitary group.

In among the Waffen the real bad boys were the "Totenkopf" or deaths head brigade, they did a lot of very bad stuff.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:22 - Apr 24 with 698 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 23:45 - Apr 23 by controversial_jack

Military convoys don't get stuck. If a vehicle breaks down or is shot up, it is pushed to the side and by passed and picked up later for repair or whatever


So you keep saying and yet proved wrong so many times.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:38 - Apr 24 with 691 viewsLorax

Russia invade Ukraine on 18:22 - Apr 24 by Boundy

So you keep saying and yet proved wrong so many times.


Has he seen "A Bridge too far" or read about operation "Market Garden" where the Allied convoy being held up was part of the reason for it's eventual failure. Tanks were delayed which delayed troops and materiel, the relief of Arnhem never happened.

Thing is, if a tank is too damaged to carry on and another tank tries to push it out of the way, they just shoot up the second tank too. That's exactly what happened on Highway 69.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:52 - Apr 24 with 683 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 13:47 - Apr 24 by A_Fans_Dad

Except of course he is correct, if you had read the modern history of Ukraine you would have known that.
You would also know that quite a few, of them are not Ukrainians at all, the population is made up of over 100 different nationalities,.
The main ones apart from Russians being Romanians, Belorussians, Crimean Tatars, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Poles, Jews, and Armenians.


Whether he's correct or isn't relevant is it.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 18:57 - Apr 24 with 676 viewsLorax

Russia invade Ukraine on 13:47 - Apr 24 by A_Fans_Dad

Except of course he is correct, if you had read the modern history of Ukraine you would have known that.
You would also know that quite a few, of them are not Ukrainians at all, the population is made up of over 100 different nationalities,.
The main ones apart from Russians being Romanians, Belorussians, Crimean Tatars, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Poles, Jews, and Armenians.


The Russians forcibly removed all the Crimean Tatars in the 40's, they only allowed them to return in 1989, another Russian crime.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 19:09 - Apr 24 with 667 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Russia invade Ukraine on 18:52 - Apr 24 by Scotia

Whether he's correct or isn't relevant is it.


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Russia invade Ukraine on 19:26 - Apr 24 with 653 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 19:09 - Apr 24 by A_Fans_Dad



Why is it relevant?
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Russia invade Ukraine on 20:17 - Apr 24 with 642 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Because he is an American Colonel who understands Russian/Ukranian military doctrine and the situation in Ukraine.
I put him forward as one expert and you use his perfectly correct quote presumably to try and suggest he isn't a qualified expert.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 20:44 - Apr 24 with 636 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 20:17 - Apr 24 by A_Fans_Dad

Because he is an American Colonel who understands Russian/Ukranian military doctrine and the situation in Ukraine.
I put him forward as one expert and you use his perfectly correct quote presumably to try and suggest he isn't a qualified expert.


But your entirely missing the point. I'm not suggesting he's not qualified but entirely biased.

At a similar time to Russia annexing Crimea in 2014 he appeared on Russian state TV justifying why they could do similar in Donbas based on the ethnicity of the population and regional history. He's previously said that Russia will annihalte Ukraine.

He's speaking as someone sympathetic to Russia and the annexation of Donbas which is exactly what Russia are now trying to do, he may be correct about some aspects but he is far from a reliable commentator.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 20:54 - Apr 24 with 627 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 20:17 - Apr 24 by A_Fans_Dad

Because he is an American Colonel who understands Russian/Ukranian military doctrine and the situation in Ukraine.
I put him forward as one expert and you use his perfectly correct quote presumably to try and suggest he isn't a qualified expert.


Because he's " qualified " to comment doesn't make him right , some of the arsine comments he's made since the conflict started makes me wonder is he another Putin stooge

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 22:12 - Apr 24 with 613 viewsfelixstowe_jack

I see Corbyn has showed his true colours suggesting that NATO be disbanded to bring piece to Europe.
I bet the Russians and Putin would love that so Russian troops could March in unopposed to any European country that borders Russian.

It just shows how dangerous the far left Russian supporters are.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 22:27 - Apr 24 with 599 viewsBoundy

Russia invade Ukraine on 22:12 - Apr 24 by felixstowe_jack

I see Corbyn has showed his true colours suggesting that NATO be disbanded to bring piece to Europe.
I bet the Russians and Putin would love that so Russian troops could March in unopposed to any European country that borders Russian.

It just shows how dangerous the far left Russian supporters are.


Good idea Jezza , we disarm run down our forces , then appease the aggressor hoping he'll look kindly upon us , sound familiar ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russia invade Ukraine on 23:19 - Apr 24 with 573 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 22:27 - Apr 24 by Boundy

Good idea Jezza , we disarm run down our forces , then appease the aggressor hoping he'll look kindly upon us , sound familiar ?


Tell us all - how does that play out in the Nuclear era???
You’re harking back to Hitlers time - not a relevant comparison

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Russia invade Ukraine on 23:49 - Apr 24 with 562 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 18:38 - Apr 24 by Lorax

Has he seen "A Bridge too far" or read about operation "Market Garden" where the Allied convoy being held up was part of the reason for it's eventual failure. Tanks were delayed which delayed troops and materiel, the relief of Arnhem never happened.

Thing is, if a tank is too damaged to carry on and another tank tries to push it out of the way, they just shoot up the second tank too. That's exactly what happened on Highway 69.


A modern army will have air cover. Convoys are not left unprotected Russia has air superiority in this conflict

Nearly all of the Ukrainian ammunition and fuel supplies have been bombed and destroyed. What is trickling in through its western borders has difficulties to reach the eastern front and is anyway not enough to supply an actively fighting and maneuvering army.

On April 16 Russia shot down a Ukrainian military transport plane that was bringing 'western' weapons to Odessa. Today it destroyed another ammunition depot near Lviv were 'western' weapons are crossing the border into Ukraine. Some bits of fuel allegedly still reach the Ukraine through trains from Moldova. But that is far from enough.

This is the reality that you are not been shown
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Russia invade Ukraine on 07:15 - Apr 25 with 544 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 23:49 - Apr 24 by controversial_jack

A modern army will have air cover. Convoys are not left unprotected Russia has air superiority in this conflict

Nearly all of the Ukrainian ammunition and fuel supplies have been bombed and destroyed. What is trickling in through its western borders has difficulties to reach the eastern front and is anyway not enough to supply an actively fighting and maneuvering army.

On April 16 Russia shot down a Ukrainian military transport plane that was bringing 'western' weapons to Odessa. Today it destroyed another ammunition depot near Lviv were 'western' weapons are crossing the border into Ukraine. Some bits of fuel allegedly still reach the Ukraine through trains from Moldova. But that is far from enough.

This is the reality that you are not been shown


If the Russian forces are so superior why are they targeting civilians, committing executions and war crimes.
Why did the Russian forces retreat so quickly from Kyev, which Putin claimed was there main target and would be captured in weeks.

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Russia invade Ukraine on 08:17 - Apr 25 with 534 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 23:49 - Apr 24 by controversial_jack

A modern army will have air cover. Convoys are not left unprotected Russia has air superiority in this conflict

Nearly all of the Ukrainian ammunition and fuel supplies have been bombed and destroyed. What is trickling in through its western borders has difficulties to reach the eastern front and is anyway not enough to supply an actively fighting and maneuvering army.

On April 16 Russia shot down a Ukrainian military transport plane that was bringing 'western' weapons to Odessa. Today it destroyed another ammunition depot near Lviv were 'western' weapons are crossing the border into Ukraine. Some bits of fuel allegedly still reach the Ukraine through trains from Moldova. But that is far from enough.

This is the reality that you are not been shown


There is no doubt that Russia has superior air power so it must be a bit embarrassing for Putin and dissapointing for you that they seem to have made very little progress in 3 months. Of course convoys have air cover which is the reason the 40 mile long military traffic jam outside Kyiv wasn't obliterated by Ukraine.

I think a lot of the rest of your post is just Russian propaganda which you seem to believe without question.

We are being shown that reality, or at least a version of it. I read about the Ukrainian military plane being shot down in western MSM. It was claimed on Russian state TV TASS that it was full of western arms and was shot down by them, the Ukrainians claim it was on a technical flight and crashed in fog and one person was killed and two injured. The truth is likely to be somewhere in between. Perhaps it was shot down by the Russians but was actually empty? Who knows?

For example look what happened when the munition store on the Moskva blew up - it was sufficient to sink the largest Navy vessel in the black sea. If a Ukrainian transport plane loaded with western weapons crashed, the resulting explosion would be massive, Everyone on the plane would have been killed and potentially people on the ground too. Don't you think that would have been shown on Russian state TV too? It wasn't.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:27 - Apr 25 with 519 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Russia invade Ukraine on 07:15 - Apr 25 by felixstowe_jack

If the Russian forces are so superior why are they targeting civilians, committing executions and war crimes.
Why did the Russian forces retreat so quickly from Kyev, which Putin claimed was there main target and would be captured in weeks.


"Why did the Russian forces retreat so quickly from Kyev, which Putin claimed was there main target and would be captured in weeks. "

Do you know what misdirection and a "feint" is?
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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:52 - Apr 25 with 504 viewsScotia

Russia invade Ukraine on 10:27 - Apr 25 by A_Fans_Dad

"Why did the Russian forces retreat so quickly from Kyev, which Putin claimed was there main target and would be captured in weeks. "

Do you know what misdirection and a "feint" is?


You only need an ounce of common sense to see that a 40 mile queue of military hardware perched like sitting ducks on a highway in a foreign country for all the world to see isn't a feint.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 10:58 - Apr 25 with 500 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Russia invade Ukraine on 10:52 - Apr 25 by Scotia

You only need an ounce of common sense to see that a 40 mile queue of military hardware perched like sitting ducks on a highway in a foreign country for all the world to see isn't a feint.


Also a feint that sees several of your top generals getting picked off for fun isn’t really worth it.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:24 - Apr 25 with 486 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Is Vladimir “baldy shortarse” Putin ill? Speculation is rife that the Russian leader, who is also known as Bloaty McBloatface may be suffering from Parkinson’s disease or other neurological condition. He was filmed desperately gripping onto the corner of a table for some reason while his foot twitched faster than a nosey neighbours curtains.
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Russia invade Ukraine on 11:59 - Apr 25 with 471 viewscontroversial_jack

Russia invade Ukraine on 10:58 - Apr 25 by Flynnidine_Zidownes

Also a feint that sees several of your top generals getting picked off for fun isn’t really worth it.


Russia has 79 combat ready divisions, so far they have used 9. The Ukranian military infrastructure is being slowly eliminated
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