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Looking at Steveo Cooper 17:54 - Jan 9 with 4033 viewsonehunglow

Seems far more vocal and animated.
Standing up,no hands in anorak and shouting.

If only ...

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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:26 - Jan 9 with 555 viewsThrasher6

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:17 - Jan 9 by Dr_Parnassus

Looked a good Arsenal side.

Sako, Martinelli, Odegaard, Cedric, White, Leno, Holding, Lacazette, Kolasinac and Tierney all playing.


Did you watch the match?...They weren't interested...

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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:28 - Jan 9 with 553 viewsDr_Parnassus

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:26 - Jan 9 by Bobblehat

Try watching the game instead of looking at the starting 11.

Arsenal were awful. Arteta dragged his left back off after 30 min minutes. That’s how bad they were.


So what you meant to say is that you believe they played badly as opposed to being a bad side then?

That usually happens when a team loses. One team usually makes the other play badly by playing better than them.

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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:28 - Jan 9 with 547 viewsDr_Parnassus

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:26 - Jan 9 by Thrasher6

Did you watch the match?...They weren't interested...


I didn't, but that is a good Arsenal side.

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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:31 - Jan 9 with 536 viewsBobblehat

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:28 - Jan 9 by Dr_Parnassus

I didn't, but that is a good Arsenal side.


One team didn’t make the other look bad.👍🏻 Two poor teams on the day and an awful match to watch.
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:34 - Jan 9 with 526 viewsThrasher6

Newcastle played Camb Utd at home and lost. Funny that? Why did that happen! It's simple. Newcastle are more interested in their relegation battle. It aint rocket science. Arsenal are more interested in a Top 6 finish than the FA Cup. Both teams...essentially...threw the games...
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:41 - Jan 9 with 496 viewsowainglyndwr

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 19:05 - Jan 9 by ReslovenSwan1

Cooper got a lot of love and a lot of very vey good players .

Woodman, Guehi, Wilmot, Surridge, Gallagher Ayew, Lowe, Brewster Gibbs White all asked or and al delivered. He already had Rodon Roberts Cabango and solid players like Bidwell and even Goykeres .


His arguments with the board about Rodon and funds was the end..
They wanted him out because he said a few home truths after being let down
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:44 - Jan 9 with 494 viewsDr_Parnassus

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:34 - Jan 9 by Thrasher6

Newcastle played Camb Utd at home and lost. Funny that? Why did that happen! It's simple. Newcastle are more interested in their relegation battle. It aint rocket science. Arsenal are more interested in a Top 6 finish than the FA Cup. Both teams...essentially...threw the games...
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Because that's football. If the more talented side won every single game it would be the most boring and predictable sport in the world.

I don't buy players playing for a regular stake in the Premier League side don't care about impressing, sounds like nonsense.

They may not have played well, but that's what playing a Steve Cooper side tends to do. The amount of times he was called ''lucky'' was funny, whether it was teams ''not turning up'' or 'not being interested'', it always seemed the same.

Strange nobody really put 2+2 together...

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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:44 - Jan 9 with 493 viewsowainglyndwr

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 19:05 - Jan 9 by ReslovenSwan1

Cooper got a lot of love and a lot of very vey good players .

Woodman, Guehi, Wilmot, Surridge, Gallagher Ayew, Lowe, Brewster Gibbs White all asked or and al delivered. He already had Rodon Roberts Cabango and solid players like Bidwell and even Goykeres .


His arguments with the board about Rodon and funds was the end..
They wanted him out because he said a few home truths after being let down

This is what I was told last year in April, then things started to go down hill
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:45 - Jan 9 with 491 viewsBobblehat

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:41 - Jan 9 by owainglyndwr

His arguments with the board about Rodon and funds was the end..
They wanted him out because he said a few home truths after being let down


I’m sure they tried to get him to sign a new contract but?
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:48 - Jan 9 with 487 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Worse thing our board have done since making the idiot from USA our head coach. Cooper was and is a class act compared to Martin.
Out board should have made a far better effort to keep a successful manager.

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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:50 - Jan 9 with 487 viewsBobblehat

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:44 - Jan 9 by Dr_Parnassus

Because that's football. If the more talented side won every single game it would be the most boring and predictable sport in the world.

I don't buy players playing for a regular stake in the Premier League side don't care about impressing, sounds like nonsense.

They may not have played well, but that's what playing a Steve Cooper side tends to do. The amount of times he was called ''lucky'' was funny, whether it was teams ''not turning up'' or 'not being interested'', it always seemed the same.

Strange nobody really put 2+2 together...


Go watch the game.👍🏻 Arsenal didn’t care if they won or lost.

The only thing Arsenal want is to get back in to the champions league.
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:51 - Jan 9 with 486 viewsBobblehat

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:48 - Jan 9 by felixstowe_jack

Worse thing our board have done since making the idiot from USA our head coach. Cooper was and is a class act compared to Martin.
Out board should have made a far better effort to keep a successful manager.


Successful manager?????? What’s he achieved?
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:06 - Jan 9 with 465 viewsDr_Parnassus

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:50 - Jan 9 by Bobblehat

Go watch the game.👍🏻 Arsenal didn’t care if they won or lost.

The only thing Arsenal want is to get back in to the champions league.


Not buying it.

They are professional footballers playing to enhance their careers with contractual win bonuses.

That kind of talk is a myth. If they didn't want to win then they would have played their U20's which they have done before.

Not risk first teamers when they want to get back into the Champions League.
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:09 - Jan 9 with 461 viewsDr_Parnassus

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 22:51 - Jan 9 by Bobblehat

Successful manager?????? What’s he achieved?


Never finished outside of the play-offs in his club career.

Equaled a club record last year of points achieved in this league, equaling the points tally of the greatest football league side we have ever had with one of the best managers in Europe.

Taken over Forest and continued that pattern of success.

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Looking at Steveo Cooper (n/t) on 23:12 - Jan 9 with 457 viewsBobblehat

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:09 - Jan 9 by Dr_Parnassus

Never finished outside of the play-offs in his club career.

Equaled a club record last year of points achieved in this league, equaling the points tally of the greatest football league side we have ever had with one of the best managers in Europe.

Taken over Forest and continued that pattern of success.


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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:16 - Jan 9 with 450 viewsBobblehat

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:09 - Jan 9 by Dr_Parnassus

Never finished outside of the play-offs in his club career.

Equaled a club record last year of points achieved in this league, equaling the points tally of the greatest football league side we have ever had with one of the best managers in Europe.

Taken over Forest and continued that pattern of success.


He’s successful because he took a team that were in the championship and kept them in the championship.😆😆😆😆😆 great achievement that.🤦🏻‍♂️

He’s taken over a very good Forest team that were misfiring under Houghton up to 9th another great achievement that.👍🏻
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:19 - Jan 9 with 447 viewsDr_Parnassus

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:16 - Jan 9 by Bobblehat

He’s successful because he took a team that were in the championship and kept them in the championship.😆😆😆😆😆 great achievement that.🤦🏻‍♂️

He’s taken over a very good Forest team that were misfiring under Houghton up to 9th another great achievement that.👍🏻


Not with you there? That isn't what I said.

I said ''never finished outside the playoffs in his football career, equaled a club record of points gained at this level held previously by our greatest football league side and one of the best managers in Europe and continued that level of success at Forest''.

If you don't think Cooper is a successful manager then I would hate to hear your views of Russell Martin who is yet to get a team into the top half in his managerial career.

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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:20 - Jan 9 with 444 viewsDr_Parnassus


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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:26 - Jan 9 with 436 viewsBobblehat

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:19 - Jan 9 by Dr_Parnassus

Not with you there? That isn't what I said.

I said ''never finished outside the playoffs in his football career, equaled a club record of points gained at this level held previously by our greatest football league side and one of the best managers in Europe and continued that level of success at Forest''.

If you don't think Cooper is a successful manager then I would hate to hear your views of Russell Martin who is yet to get a team into the top half in his managerial career.


If you think he’s successful just because he equalled a club record then I feel sorry for you.

Oh and the jury is still out on Martin. Only time will tell if he’ll be a success or not.👍🏻
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:30 - Jan 9 with 431 viewsReslovenSwan1

Not many managers lasted longer in his post than Cooper. 2 seasons. Martinez was a little longer as was Jackett. Hollins was three yeas and before that the recently departed Frank Burrows .

I believe the club wanted Cooper to be more possession based and it turned out something different. Successful but different. Swansea will now be more rigorous in it philosophy with or with out Martin. The hope is Mr Allen will be the godfather of the Swansea Way. Certain European teams play in the same way come what may. Ajax, Man city, Villareal, now Athletico. The ideal model for Swansea is Ajax. Why not imitate the best?

The club has joined up thinking again. It will be long tough road. Perhaps its full glory will be when the u18 golden nuggets come through in Cotterill, Congreave Lloyd and Hillier. The thirteen year old kids sent on tour to California by Huw Jenkins. (that must have cost a packet they could have paid out that to themselves in dividends) These guys will have the style seeped into their souls. Wales does not produce anyone like Piroe. He is Dutch from the Dutch school.

I watched Croatia combat a fierce Welsh press in an u19 game. Smooth as silk it was no bother at all no dramas,. The Welsh boys had to ease off no point wasting energy. It was ingrained season after season. Second nature.
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:34 - Jan 9 with 426 viewsDr_Parnassus

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:26 - Jan 9 by Bobblehat

If you think he’s successful just because he equalled a club record then I feel sorry for you.

Oh and the jury is still out on Martin. Only time will tell if he’ll be a success or not.👍🏻


Of course he is successful by equaling club records. That's the whole point of having ''club records of achievements''... they are achievements.

Not just because of that of course, that is an added bonus to leading his side to the play offs in every year he has had the opportunity to.

Silly to suggest otherwise.

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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:37 - Jan 9 with 423 viewsDr_Parnassus

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:30 - Jan 9 by ReslovenSwan1

Not many managers lasted longer in his post than Cooper. 2 seasons. Martinez was a little longer as was Jackett. Hollins was three yeas and before that the recently departed Frank Burrows .

I believe the club wanted Cooper to be more possession based and it turned out something different. Successful but different. Swansea will now be more rigorous in it philosophy with or with out Martin. The hope is Mr Allen will be the godfather of the Swansea Way. Certain European teams play in the same way come what may. Ajax, Man city, Villareal, now Athletico. The ideal model for Swansea is Ajax. Why not imitate the best?

The club has joined up thinking again. It will be long tough road. Perhaps its full glory will be when the u18 golden nuggets come through in Cotterill, Congreave Lloyd and Hillier. The thirteen year old kids sent on tour to California by Huw Jenkins. (that must have cost a packet they could have paid out that to themselves in dividends) These guys will have the style seeped into their souls. Wales does not produce anyone like Piroe. He is Dutch from the Dutch school.

I watched Croatia combat a fierce Welsh press in an u19 game. Smooth as silk it was no bother at all no dramas,. The Welsh boys had to ease off no point wasting energy. It was ingrained season after season. Second nature.
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We aren't imitating the best though.

If any of those clubs had our players they wouldn't be playing that way. That's why they are the best, they play in a way suited to what they have.

The way we play is ridiculous and not fit for purpose. There is ways to play passing and possession football without having to take it to such ridiculous and negative degrees just to fill a stat sheet.... this isn't it.

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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:37 - Jan 9 with 423 viewsReslovenSwan1

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:34 - Jan 9 by Dr_Parnassus

Of course he is successful by equaling club records. That's the whole point of having ''club records of achievements''... they are achievements.

Not just because of that of course, that is an added bonus to leading his side to the play offs in every year he has had the opportunity to.

Silly to suggest otherwise.


He is a great manager. No doubt about it. He is however not the right man for Swansea city and their defined philosophy and pathway. Cooper did a good job with elite loan players and Ayew but fell short.

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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:41 - Jan 9 with 421 viewsDr_Parnassus

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:37 - Jan 9 by ReslovenSwan1

He is a great manager. No doubt about it. He is however not the right man for Swansea city and their defined philosophy and pathway. Cooper did a good job with elite loan players and Ayew but fell short.


We have always had elite loan players, we did this year with Williams and Laird too. He (Williams) has far more pedigree than anything Cooper brought in and got a tune out of.

Rhys Williams was a starter for Liverpool not so long ago.

Cooper was far more a fit to this club than what is being served up currently. We have had managers that play similar to Cooper for most of this clubs life, we have never had a manager that has attempted to play the way we are trying now.

For good reason of course, it doesn't work.
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Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:43 - Jan 9 with 418 viewsBobblehat

Looking at Steveo Cooper on 23:34 - Jan 9 by Dr_Parnassus

Of course he is successful by equaling club records. That's the whole point of having ''club records of achievements''... they are achievements.

Not just because of that of course, that is an added bonus to leading his side to the play offs in every year he has had the opportunity to.

Silly to suggest otherwise.


He failed to get us promoted. 🤦🏻‍♂️

All the decent team he’s come up against in the championship with Forest he’s struggled with Huddersfield, Middlesbrough, Fulham, 10 man West Brom.

He hasn’t achieved anything as a manager except a club record.
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