| Palace 20:25 - Apr 4 with 1326 views | pencoedjack |
Look a very decent outfit under Vieira.
Ripping Arsenal to shreds |  | | |  |
| Palace on 20:28 - Apr 4 with 1292 views | angryjack |
I think it could be osian roberts that's pulling strings.. |  | | |
| Palace on 20:29 - Apr 4 with 1290 views | KeithHaynes |
2-0 bloke called ayew. |  |
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| Palace on 20:48 - Apr 4 with 1261 views | pencoedjack |
| Palace on 20:28 - Apr 4 by angryjack |
I think it could be osian roberts that's pulling strings.. |
Why? Because he’s Welsh?
No doubt he’s a decent coach but can’t imagine Vieira playing 2nd fiddle to anyone.
Anyway, Palace look a decent side & are good to watch. | | | |
| Palace on 21:05 - Apr 4 with 1248 views | angryjack |
| Palace on 20:48 - Apr 4 by pencoedjack |
Why? Because he’s Welsh?
No doubt he’s a decent coach but can’t imagine Vieira playing 2nd fiddle to anyone.
Anyway, Palace look a decent side & are good to watch. |
Osman Roberts was thd one who put him through his coaching badges with the welsh.f.a.it was also Roberts behind wales with Coleman highly respected and that's the reason Vieira took him.. | | | |
| Palace on 21:09 - Apr 4 with 1244 views | pencoedjack |
| Palace on 21:05 - Apr 4 by angryjack |
Osman Roberts was thd one who put him through his coaching badges with the welsh.f.a.it was also Roberts behind wales with Coleman highly respected and that's the reason Vieira took him.. |
Hence why I said he’s a decent coach & Vieira is the main man. | | | |
| Palace on 23:30 - Apr 4 with 1178 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Palace on 21:09 - Apr 4 by pencoedjack |
Hence why I said he’s a decent coach & Vieira is the main man. |
You are missing the point.
Viera could have had anyone and any coach to be his assistant.
Viera asked Osian Roberts.
Unproven at Premier League level.
But Viera knew what he was getting.
The man behind Coleman and without whom Euro16 would not have happened.
Coaching, culture, leadership, trust, knowledge, psychology, strength and conditioning, anslysis, tactics - nothing is ignored or left to chance.
Osian wanted Cymru best in the world off the pitch, to give the boys on the pitch the best chance of success.
The detail is amazing, they actually took the cymru training ground branding to France to help the players feel at home.
Fascinating to see how Osian and Patrick operate as a pair.
Smashed Arsenal tonight. 🇫🇷ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ |  |
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| Palace on 23:58 - Apr 4 with 1165 views | STID2017 |
3 ex Swans in the Palace side ( two loanees granted ).
Good result tonight |  |
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| Palace on 00:38 - Apr 5 with 1146 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Palace on 23:30 - Apr 4 by Kilkennyjack |
You are missing the point.
Viera could have had anyone and any coach to be his assistant.
Viera asked Osian Roberts.
Unproven at Premier League level.
But Viera knew what he was getting.
The man behind Coleman and without whom Euro16 would not have happened.
Coaching, culture, leadership, trust, knowledge, psychology, strength and conditioning, anslysis, tactics - nothing is ignored or left to chance.
Osian wanted Cymru best in the world off the pitch, to give the boys on the pitch the best chance of success.
The detail is amazing, they actually took the cymru training ground branding to France to help the players feel at home.
Fascinating to see how Osian and Patrick operate as a pair.
Smashed Arsenal tonight. 🇫🇷ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ |
Genuine question, why do you call Wales, Cymru, yet you don't call Swansea, Abertawe ? Is it an indy or YES thing? |  | | |
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| Palace on 07:17 - Apr 5 with 1118 views | trampie |
Osian Roberts seems to be pulling the strings up there. |  |
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| Palace on 09:33 - Apr 5 with 1084 views | Boundy |
Leave the M4 motorway at Junction 24 in south Wales, head south along the tree-lined A48, cross the railway bridge, swing past the retail park, circle behind the athletics stadium and you arrive at Dragon Park.
The complex in Newport, 16 miles northeast of Cardiff, is the home of Wales' National Football Development Centre, and in recent years its corridors and training pitches have been trodden by a galaxy of world-famous football personalities studying for their coaching badges under the auspices of the Football Association of Wales.
Thierry Henry and Patrick Vieira are two of the centre's most well-known alumni, and on Wednesday, 740 miles away in southeast France, the lessons they learned at Dragon Park will be put to the test when Henry's Monaco and Vieira's Nice face off in Ligue 1.
Craig Harrison first encountered Vieira when, aged 20, he lined up against the Frenchman in an FA Cup fourth-round match between Middlesbrough and Arsenal at the Riverside Stadium in January 1998.
French national football team captain Patrick Vieira (L) chats with teammate forward Thierry Henry during a training session, on June 10, 2008, at the Stadium in Chatel-Saint-Denis. France has been drawn in Group C with world champions Italy, the Netherla
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Their paths diverged sharply over the years that followed–Vieira becoming a world and European champion with France and winning a host of major honours at club level, while injury forced Harrison out of the game in 2003–but when they met for the second time, it was as equals on the UEFA Pro Licence course at Dragon Park in March 2014.
"You used to see him on the pitch–and I was fortunate to play against him when I played for Middlesbrough–and he was such a ferocious competitor. He's such a different person off the pitch," Harrison tells Bleacher Report.
"He's soft-spoken, he's kind, he's very well-mannered, he's approachable, and he'd quite happily have a conversation with someone like me or another Welsh Premier League manager."
The 16 other people on the pro licence course with Vieira and Harrison included such former Premier League stars as Craig Bellamy, Les Ferdinand, Tim Sherwood and Sol Campbell, as well as the then-Swansea manager Garry Monk. Harrison was the manager of Welsh top-tier side The New Saints, but although he could not hold a torch to his class-mates when it came to elite-level experience, he never felt out of place.
"Whether it was me, managing TNS, or Garry Monk managing Swansea in the Premier League, everyone rolled their sleeves up and dug in together," says Harrison, who went on to set a world record for consecutive top-flight wins with TNS in 2016.
"Because it was out of everyone's comfort zone, everyone felt on the same level. You were doing things that you hadn't done before. When people were just about to present in front of the group, everyone was nervous. Patrick wasn't any different to anybody else."
That sense of democracy was one of the things that attracted Vieira to the FAW's coaching programme in the first place. As he explained to The Guardian in August 2013, shortly after starting the A licence course: "I chose a place where I feel comfortable to learn, where there are no egos and where they treat everyone the same."
Officially opened by Michel Platini, another former France great, in April 2013, Dragon Park is a purpose-built facility where coaches can make use of cutting-edge technologies such as Globall Coach tactical animation software and drone-mounted cameras to film training sessions.
The centre's coaching courses, overseen by FAW technical director Osian Roberts, have earned a global reputation for producing progressive, tactically astute coaches. The list of graduates also features Marcel Desailly, David Ginola, Mikel Arteta, Freddie Ljungberg and Jens Lehmann, with word of mouth helping to keep a steady stream of football luminaries passing through the entrance doors.
"I met Osh [Roberts], and the way they see the game and the way they were doing things in the FAW, the identity and the philosophy about the game is how I see the game," Henry told reporters who visited Dragon Park in May 2015. "It was the perfect match."
Henry, 41, began studying for his coaching badges in Newport in early 2015, achieving his A licence in March 2016 and completing his pro licence course in January 2018. As with Vieira, his classmates were impressed by his humility and eagerness to learn.
"Thierry was fantastic," says Colin Caton, manager of semi-professional Welsh club Bala Town.
"There were four or five non-league lads on the course, but he wanted to know about our experiences as well, how we did it on a part-time basis. He was astonished that lads would be going to work and then having to train and play at night."
Caton was touched that, after completing the pro licence course, Henry made a point of hailing Bala Town's victory in the 2017 Welsh Cup in an interview published on the FAW website. The members of that 2017-18 pro licence cohort remain in touch via a WhatsApp group.
The group would assemble at Dragon Park for three to four days, every other month, over a period of 18 months. They stayed at Celtic Manor, the luxury resort just up the road that staged the 2010 Ryder Cup. Their days were spent following the various course modules (player fitness, match analysis, dealing with the media etc.), preparing training sessions and listening to talks delivered by guest speakers.
When the working day came to an end (sometimes after 12 hours of contact time), the exchange of ideas continued. Over dinner or while sitting around watching live games on television, the coaches would chat about tactics and playing systems, occasionally picking Henry's brains for insights into playing under Pep Guardiola and Arsene Wenger. | |
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| Palace on 09:35 - Apr 5 with 1077 views | Chief |
Morroco's recent success and resurgence seem to have coincided with Robert's time there too. |  |
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| Palace on 11:30 - Apr 5 with 1038 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Palace on 00:38 - Apr 5 by Treforys_Jack |
Genuine question, why do you call Wales, Cymru, yet you don't call Swansea, Abertawe ? Is it an indy or YES thing? |
The FAW twitter is @cymru.
Thats how the governing body refer to our team now.
whereas Swansea call Swansea, well ‘Swansea’ …. When they change to Abertawe i will follow their lead. | |
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| Palace on 12:15 - Apr 5 with 1014 views | trampie |
| Palace on 11:30 - Apr 5 by Kilkennyjack |
The FAW twitter is @cymru.
Thats how the governing body refer to our team now.
whereas Swansea call Swansea, well ‘Swansea’ …. When they change to Abertawe i will follow their lead. |
Yes i noticed that quite some time ago that the FAW refer to Wales as Cymru, you are quite correct. | |
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| Palace on 12:33 - Apr 5 with 1003 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Palace on 11:30 - Apr 5 by Kilkennyjack |
The FAW twitter is @cymru.
Thats how the governing body refer to our team now.
whereas Swansea call Swansea, well ‘Swansea’ …. When they change to Abertawe i will follow their lead. |
Cheers, was just curious. | | | |
| Palace on 12:53 - Apr 5 with 986 views | A_Fans_Dad |
The irony of this post is lost on most.
Palace played direct, fast attacking Football and took their chances as we did for a lot of the derby game and Arsenal played Martinball with 69% possession .
Tried to slowly pass the ball in to the penalty area and goal, quite often against 10 or 11 players. | | | |
| Palace on 14:18 - Apr 5 with 956 views | STID2017 |
| Palace on 12:53 - Apr 5 by A_Fans_Dad |
The irony of this post is lost on most.
Palace played direct, fast attacking Football and took their chances as we did for a lot of the derby game and Arsenal played Martinball with 69% possession .
Tried to slowly pass the ball in to the penalty area and goal, quite often against 10 or 11 players. |
Take that as a compliment if I was Martin.
To be likened to the Arsenal, he must be doing something right, surely ?  | |
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| Palace on 22:40 - Apr 5 with 897 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Palace on 14:18 - Apr 5 by STID2017 |
Take that as a compliment if I was Martin.
To be likened to the Arsenal, he must be doing something right, surely ? |
Dont call me shirley, but yes. | |
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| Palace on 22:45 - Apr 5 with 896 views | STID2017 |
| Palace on 12:53 - Apr 5 by A_Fans_Dad |
The irony of this post is lost on most.
Palace played direct, fast attacking Football and took their chances as we did for a lot of the derby game and Arsenal played Martinball with 69% possession .
Tried to slowly pass the ball in to the penalty area and goal, quite often against 10 or 11 players. |
Boring Arsenal style tonight then.
Well done RM | |
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| Palace on 16:07 - Apr 6 with 852 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Palace on 22:45 - Apr 5 by STID2017 |
Boring Arsenal style tonight then.
Well done RM |
It makes it is even more ironic that you think us playing like Arsenal with a team costing at least 20 times as much as ours while they get torn apart by a team playing fast and direct football is a good thing.
Without realising that it was when we played fast direct football that we scored. | | | |
| Palace on 17:17 - Apr 6 with 835 views | STID2017 |
| Palace on 16:07 - Apr 6 by A_Fans_Dad |
It makes it is even more ironic that you think us playing like Arsenal with a team costing at least 20 times as much as ours while they get torn apart by a team playing fast and direct football is a good thing.
Without realising that it was when we played fast direct football that we scored. |
A game is 90 + minutes.
One attack isn't a style.
Over the whole of the match we played a more steady patient football which prior to the match you likened to Arsenal.
So it is ironic that the style of play you condemned worked over the game as a sum total.
Opinions eh ? | |
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| Palace on 17:29 - Apr 6 with 832 views | STID2017 |
| Palace on 16:07 - Apr 6 by A_Fans_Dad |
It makes it is even more ironic that you think us playing like Arsenal with a team costing at least 20 times as much as ours while they get torn apart by a team playing fast and direct football is a good thing.
Without realising that it was when we played fast direct football that we scored. |
Actually took 40 seconds from beginning to end, involving about 10 or more passes.
Hardly fast and direct. But certainly effective.
Sure both of us agree it certainly did the job [Post edited 6 Apr 2022 23:23]
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