| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 14:10 - Apr 7 with 5162 views | magicdaps10 |
It's worth a read guys, how people above him on there actually allow it to go to press is laughable.
His obsession with them being the capital team is Truely cringe worthy.
Give it a read guys 😂 |  |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:45 - Apr 7 with 1188 views | johnlangy |
God, he gets more and more pathetic as the years go on.
The only excuse I can come up with is that he's on the CCFC payroll. That's all that would make sense. |  | | |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:49 - Apr 7 with 1177 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Cardiff city is not a bad buy at Championship prices. There are other features like the very large car park which brings in income and the park and ride facilities. The new academy would also add value.
Cardiff city has done more to engage with Welsh youth that is generally more patriotic than in days gone by. Welsh games at the Liberty have been friendlies and dismal affairs in the main. The game in Wales is n the up with even Wrexham on an upward trajectory. Newport need a new ground. |  |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:50 - Apr 7 with 1177 views | Dr_Winston |
I'm sure there's an actual psychological term for the kind of mentality most Cardiff fans possess. Utterly unwilling to accept their true place in the world and waiting for their "potential" to be unleashed. Soon. Any day now. Eventually.
They're an average club in a smallish city in a division chock full of them. One of many, yet somehow considered massive only by themselves. |  |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:57 - Apr 7 with 1170 views | jasper_T |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:49 - Apr 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Cardiff city is not a bad buy at Championship prices. There are other features like the very large car park which brings in income and the park and ride facilities. The new academy would also add value.
Cardiff city has done more to engage with Welsh youth that is generally more patriotic than in days gone by. Welsh games at the Liberty have been friendlies and dismal affairs in the main. The game in Wales is n the up with even Wrexham on an upward trajectory. Newport need a new ground. |
The debt they're carrying makes them a poor investment. Championship clubs don't make money and they start £100m in the red. The brothers Colwill won't quite cover it.
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:57 - Apr 7 with 1162 views | 73__73 |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:49 - Apr 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Cardiff city is not a bad buy at Championship prices. There are other features like the very large car park which brings in income and the park and ride facilities. The new academy would also add value.
Cardiff city has done more to engage with Welsh youth that is generally more patriotic than in days gone by. Welsh games at the Liberty have been friendlies and dismal affairs in the main. The game in Wales is n the up with even Wrexham on an upward trajectory. Newport need a new ground. |
And what is a championship price ?
I can’t wait for your answer 😠| |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:59 - Apr 7 with 1163 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 16:20 - Apr 7 by 73__73 |
Oh keep quiet I’ve never met one Swansea fan offended by 👠chants. |
There are very few MTK Buadapest fans that get upset about Monkey chants. They are pretty bemused that their Ultras are not allowed to chant things that they see as "harmless fun". Its a matter of perspective.
You now know at least one fan (me) that does find it offensive. I expect Trampie and Kilkenny do as well but this topic is something they do not engage in. I am a patriot and do not like racial slurs against my people by Sass yobos. I care not a jot about the anthem or flag or Celtic FC.
The south Wales Constabulary will take it to court if it is against an officer. I (and my family) would appreciate the same protection by law as they offer themselves. | |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:06 - Apr 7 with 1142 views | 73__73 |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:59 - Apr 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
There are very few MTK Buadapest fans that get upset about Monkey chants. They are pretty bemused that their Ultras are not allowed to chant things that they see as "harmless fun". Its a matter of perspective.
You now know at least one fan (me) that does find it offensive. I expect Trampie and Kilkenny do as well but this topic is something they do not engage in. I am a patriot and do not like racial slurs against my people by Sass yobos. I care not a jot about the anthem or flag or Celtic FC.
The south Wales Constabulary will take it to court if it is against an officer. I (and my family) would appreciate the same protection by law as they offer themselves. |
The rest of us welsh don’t need you defending us.
Birmingham fans had a blow sheep in the away end. Fantastic a bit of fun and banter | |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:11 - Apr 7 with 1131 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:57 - Apr 7 by jasper_T |
The debt they're carrying makes them a poor investment. Championship clubs don't make money and they start £100m in the red. The brothers Colwill won't quite cover it.
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Tan will have to write the debt off to get a sale, clearly. The debt is written into the share price as he converted debt into equity thereby diluting other shareholders.
If he has converted cash into equity at £1.5m per 1% he will value the club at £150m. There will be no takers as Burnley a PL club was values at £200m. Championship clubs are worth no more than say £50-£60m maximum.
By selling he will cut his losses and take out 1/3 of what he put in. It may have had other business benefits only he knows. Raising his business profile in UK and Malaysia in economies going through a rebound. Tan bought shares in Facebook and won big time. He lost in Cardiff city. Swings and roundabouts. | |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:15 - Apr 7 with 1130 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 15:34 - Apr 7 by swan65split |
The BBC has a pretty low regard for anything Welsh outside of the Culverhouse Cross, Castle Goch , and Western Ave arc.
In fact the assembly has the same regard. |
The WAG is elected on proportional representation so should not be biased. They may have 'gone bush' living the good life in the wine bars of Pontcana but then you and I can throw them out on their backside every few years. | |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:21 - Apr 7 with 1122 views | Sirjohnalot |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:43 - Apr 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I explained it in the sense of the "dehumanising" aspects. To you and me 'Monkey' chants are appalling. The the average Ferencvaros fan they are a bit of fun. Back in the days of the Vetch if the Rochdale West Indian centre back went off upset the fans would have loved it and laid it on even thicker. I was there and saw it. In those days Gareth Edwards playing "all white skinned " rugby was fine and generally supported. Apologies are thin on the ground.
I can find several example of people being charged with 'sheep related ' abuse under "disorderly racially aggravated behaviour". Please explain how these cases were prosecuted if it is like "night and day".
Sir J have you ever been face to face with someone calling you personally that barb (with your family). I have and it is not pleasant. I see no reason why I have to accept it. What anyone else does (doff their cap to Sass yobs) is up to them. I see a community living in denial. |
Absolutely Sir, more than happy to try to explain why I think there's a difference.
I've prosecuted and defended many hundreds of Racially Aggravated offences over the years, the law is evolving and like the chap that was prosecuted for suggesting a police officer's horse was gay, as a hate crime, that would no longer happen.
There is a case called Harvey which involved a group of kids swearing at the police, they were convicted and it was appealed, it was held
' The only possible candidates for being the victims of harassment, alarm or distress, other than PC Challis and PCSO Mcllvaney, were the group of youngsters who gathered round during the exchanges, according to the case statement, or other neighbours. As to the group of young people, it may be inferred that they were interested in what was going on and perhaps even that they were sympathetic to the appellant and his companions rather than the police. There was, after all, a scuffle which was the subject of the charge on which Mr Harvey was acquitted. But it is wrong to infer in the absence of evidence from any of them that a group of young people who were in the vicinity would obviously have experienced alarm or distress at hearing these rather commonplace swear words used”..
Offensive language is also not enough eg, there a was a recent story where a lady was wearing a f... Boris T shirt, she was told to cover it up else face arrest, the police were completely wrong especially as it was a political rally.
Linking it to oppo fans making sheep noises. The thought of a bunch of football fans being suitably harassed at that doesn't hold water. If I was defending I would cite as singing 'Sheep sh,,, bs we know what we are'. Also the song about 'shooting Cardiff scum' also shows that the crowd isn't one to be easily offended (that would be a far stronger candidate for a PO offence, but again, in the context of football, it is different.
Context is all important. I find it embarrassing, and I never join in the anti English songs, stupid ? yes. Racist ? No.
If however, some football fans were to go into a restuarant after the games and started making sheep noises at a Welsh waitress, that would be completely different, different context, offence proved.
Welsh people have not had the centuries of oppression black people have suffered, we don't get killed for being Welsh. No comparison [Post edited 7 Apr 2022 18:25]
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:31 - Apr 7 with 1104 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:06 - Apr 7 by 73__73 |
The rest of us welsh don’t need you defending us.
Birmingham fans had a blow sheep in the away end. Fantastic a bit of fun and banter |
I do not represent "us" I am an individual with individual values. Wales and sheep farming go together like lamb and roast potatoes. An inflatable sheep is nothing at all.
It is timid of you to focus on this harmless fun aspect. I focus on the up close and personal where you might catch a bit of phlegm in your eye off a far right yobo out of his head on something or another, engaging in "racially aggravated disorderly conduct". It is not pleasant. | |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:36 - Apr 7 with 1089 views | 73__73 |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:31 - Apr 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I do not represent "us" I am an individual with individual values. Wales and sheep farming go together like lamb and roast potatoes. An inflatable sheep is nothing at all.
It is timid of you to focus on this harmless fun aspect. I focus on the up close and personal where you might catch a bit of phlegm in your eye off a far right yobo out of his head on something or another, engaging in "racially aggravated disorderly conduct". It is not pleasant. |
You are fooking bonkers.
You are seeing things that aren’t there | |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:37 - Apr 7 with 1091 views | johnlangy |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:45 - Apr 7 by johnlangy |
God, he gets more and more pathetic as the years go on.
The only excuse I can come up with is that he's on the CCFC payroll. That's all that would make sense. |
That article has annoyed me and has now prompted me to do another 'who's the bigger Club' post. Whether you like it or not  .
I think it was Chief responded to a post of mine when talking about attendances in another thread where he said that the Cardiff Metropolitan Area had a population of about 1 million whereas the Swansea Metropolitan area pop was 320,000. Which on the face of it makes the Swans look like a minnow compared with our illustrious neighbours.
So I looked at this Cardiff Met area on Wikipedia. It included Newport (who have their own reasonable team as far as i'm aware), all the valleys, up North to include Merthyr and West to include Bridgend. Meanwhile the Swansea Met area included Neath/PT and up as far as Ystradgynlais.
So the Cardiff Met Area includes towns 23 miles to the North (Merthyr) and West (Bridgend). But last time I looked Merthyr and Bridgend are also 23 miles from Swansea. So in theory they are all within the Swansea catchment. And as it happens there were Merthyr and Mountain Ash Jacks flags at the CCS last week.
None of the Neath valley is included in the Swansea figure and if you look West the Swansea Met area referred to by Chief doesn't even include Llanelli. And what about Burry Port, Kidwelly, Ammanford, Llandeilo and Carmarthen. All small places by themselves but substantial numbers together.
And, of course the Swans have got all of West Wales, barring some bloke called Steve from Pembroke. | | | |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:39 - Apr 7 with 1088 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:36 - Apr 7 by 73__73 |
You are fooking bonkers.
You are seeing things that aren’t there |
I have seen it aggressive, close up and personal. Have you? Do not tell me I was seeing things mush. | |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 19:04 - Apr 7 with 1045 views | 73__73 |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:39 - Apr 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have seen it aggressive, close up and personal. Have you? Do not tell me I was seeing things mush. |
Definitely seeing things | |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 19:25 - Apr 7 with 1040 views | Sirjohnalot |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 18:39 - Apr 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have seen it aggressive, close up and personal. Have you? Do not tell me I was seeing things mush. |
I completely agree with you, that, of course, is different. | | | |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 19:28 - Apr 7 with 1034 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 16:26 - Apr 7 by Sirjohnalot |
What he says is probably factually correct, Cardiff being the Capital City probably are attractive to foreign buyers who could be sold the dream of buying a club in the capital city, a stadium where the National team play, only a bridge to cross to England, and it has to be said a pretty cool City to visit, eat, Cardiff Bay, especially is very European.
We, geographically, are more isolated, a treck to get too, a more beautiful City but, I don't think, not so great for eating out, location to the the main centre etc.
Fan base point doesn't make sense, I'm an exile but I wouldn't support Cardiff if they were in the Premiership, even if we were non league, but casual foreign fans ? Yes no doubt, but so did we when we went up. We also showed that we could stabilise, only a series of crazy buys then chasing losses, sent us back down again.
We can sell ourselves on the beauty of the area, and what is more, our brand of football, we were everyone's second team when we went up, there's no reason why we cannot do it again. As I've said all season, we need to give this guy a chance (despite me being majorly peeved off in Blackpool) , a decent summer, couple of players who can play the system, next year, we could be deadly.
Bit of a daft article, sounds like fluff trying to write something positive after last Saturday's fun and games
Trust the Process
PS I don't really care if BBC Wales ignore us, I was brought up watching Neath, anti establishment. We're obviously winding them up, let's make it so they cannot ignore us [Post edited 7 Apr 2022 16:28]
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I went to Cardiff for the Czech Republic game and I thought the city centre was very impressive. But walking to the ground you could be forgiven for thinking you were walking through downtown Mariupol. Nearly every window either smashed or boarded up, huge piles of rubble in the middle of the road, saw a bloke rummaging through a big biffa bin thing. There was one house with about 100 bags of rubbish piled up outside. It was filthy with a vague smell of shit in the air. | | | |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 19:35 - Apr 7 with 1020 views | Sirjohnalot |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 19:28 - Apr 7 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
I went to Cardiff for the Czech Republic game and I thought the city centre was very impressive. But walking to the ground you could be forgiven for thinking you were walking through downtown Mariupol. Nearly every window either smashed or boarded up, huge piles of rubble in the middle of the road, saw a bloke rummaging through a big biffa bin thing. There was one house with about 100 bags of rubbish piled up outside. It was filthy with a vague smell of shit in the air. |
Love the last sentence, almost poetic.
I was referring to the Principality, I've not been to Cardiff's ground since it was rebuilt. Assume it is where Ninian used to be ? | | | |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 19:44 - Apr 7 with 1015 views | Kilkennyjack |
Dear Mr Abbandanto,
Swansea 7 Cardiff 0.
The Doube is done.
That margin will never be matched.
One team in Cymru. Fact.
Ps. Nobody alive can remember 1927 …. 😷 |  |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 20:15 - Apr 7 with 974 views | KeithHaynes |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 19:44 - Apr 7 by Kilkennyjack |
Dear Mr Abbandanto,
Swansea 7 Cardiff 0.
The Doube is done.
That margin will never be matched.
One team in Cymru. Fact.
Ps. Nobody alive can remember 1927 …. 😷 |
Fact 😂 |  |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 20:16 - Apr 7 with 973 views | pencoedjack |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 14:58 - Apr 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
WoL has in my opinion no bias against Swansea city. Naturally WoL Cardiff writers promote Cardiff (Abandonatto) just as their Swansea writers promote Swansea (Micthelmore).
The big difference between Liverpool / Man City and Swansea a is that their fans do not give a fig about the London media.
The BBC has a pretty low regard for Welsh football in general due to a lack of coverage. Women rugby fulfils their remit of supporting minority interests. Ellis James is well to the fore these days with Wales and Swansea. |
Abbandonato is head of Welsh sport for WOL he does no other football coverage except for the shower of shite up the road.
Most of his stuff is taken from Anus’s forum.
If you are on Twitter you would certainly know he is not a national journalist in Wales. |  | | |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 20:21 - Apr 7 with 966 views | bennytheblue |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 17:57 - Apr 7 by jasper_T |
The debt they're carrying makes them a poor investment. Championship clubs don't make money and they start £100m in the red. The brothers Colwill won't quite cover it.
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If Tan wants to let us go, he will have to take the loss that HE and his band of jokers (CEO) have drummed up. They clearly haven’t got a clue how to run a football club. The debt to Tan is down to 60 million, he made more from selling his shares in LA fc I believe? Not to mention f book.
That article is one of the most pointless I have ever seen in WOL, utter guff. Maybe a billionaire will buy us one day hey….  |  | | |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 20:24 - Apr 7 with 956 views | KeithHaynes |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 20:16 - Apr 7 by pencoedjack |
Abbandonato is head of Welsh sport for WOL he does no other football coverage except for the shower of shite up the road.
Most of his stuff is taken from Anus’s forum.
If you are on Twitter you would certainly know he is not a national journalist in Wales. |
I have only recently connected the anus thing to Annie’s Abraham, excuse my numptyness. Abandonato isn’t that all bad he did me many favours way back with books etc. He’s just a Cardiff fan, and for me the only issue is his association with a few hooligans. | |
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| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 21:23 - Apr 7 with 881 views | pencoedjack |
| WOL-Paul Abbandanto Cardiff takeover piece today 7/4/22 on 20:24 - Apr 7 by KeithHaynes |
I have only recently connected the anus thing to Annie’s Abraham, excuse my numptyness. Abandonato isn’t that all bad he did me many favours way back with books etc. He’s just a Cardiff fan, and for me the only issue is his association with a few hooligans. |
Glad he helped you with your excellent books but he is a complete & utter cock to me Keith.
National journalist my arse. | | | |
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