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Welsh tourism tax 11:41 - Apr 13 with 17953 viewsbritferry

What you think?

I think it will be a terrible idea, it will put people off coming here.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tourism-boss-says-anti-english-236

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Welsh tourism tax on 06:10 - Apr 15 with 1098 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh tourism tax on 19:24 - Apr 14 by controversial_jack

Rising prices everywhere, ppl struggling and you want to push up health care? Westmister has found £100 million to send to the Ukraine for weapons


Great that the UK government is supporting Ukraine against the Russian invasion and the Russian killing thousands of civilians.
That is money well spent.

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Welsh tourism tax on 06:14 - Apr 15 with 1086 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh tourism tax on 14:29 - Apr 14 by Kilkennyjack

You sure about that ?



What was that old song ?
Thats it …. ‘We will make old Winston Churchill smoke a Woodbine every day …’
Repeat.
Does not sound like the working man thought a lot of him.

The 1945 election result will come as a huge shock to you.

‘The final result of the election showed Labour to have won a landslide victory,[2] making a net gain of 239 seats and winning 47.7% of the popular vote, thus allowing Attlee to be appointed prime minister. This election marked the first time that the Labour Party had won an outright majority in parliament, and allowed Attlee to begin implementing the party's post-war reforms for the country.[3] For the Conservatives, the Labour victory was a shock,[4] as they suffered a net loss of 189 seats although they won 36.2% of the vote and had campaigned on the mistaken belief that Churchill would win.’


The British people soon realised their mistake and booted out Labour at the next election bring the GREAT Winston Churchill back into power.

Meanwhile can we get back to the original thread the silly Senedd idea of imposing a tax on Wales biggest industry.

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Welsh tourism tax on 06:20 - Apr 15 with 1084 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh tourism tax on 19:33 - Apr 14 by Lorax

Means testing is so people who can afford to pay do pay so there is more ability to give poorer people the service for free though.

I have the same qualms about child benefit, why give it to the better off as a universal benefit when there are poorer people in greater need?

I know where the quote is from but "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" sort of covers it. Those who can afford to pay should so those who can't afford to pay can get it on benefits.

It's interesting that you think billionaires should get free stuff at the tax payers expense in a country with so many sick people and food banks.


Meanwhile it costs the Welsh NHS over £10 to issue and process each "free" prescription and that does not include the cost of the doctors appointment to write the prescription. Often the same medication can be bought over the counter at your local chemists for a couple of pounds.


82 million prescriptions issued in Wales 2020 at a cost of £820 million.

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Welsh tourism tax on 08:53 - Apr 15 with 1037 views73__73

Welsh tourism tax on 06:20 - Apr 15 by felixstowe_jack

Meanwhile it costs the Welsh NHS over £10 to issue and process each "free" prescription and that does not include the cost of the doctors appointment to write the prescription. Often the same medication can be bought over the counter at your local chemists for a couple of pounds.


82 million prescriptions issued in Wales 2020 at a cost of £820 million.


82 million for a population of around 3.5 million that’s shocking

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Welsh tourism tax on 13:00 - Apr 15 with 1010 viewsTreforys_Jack

Welsh tourism tax on 19:24 - Apr 14 by controversial_jack

Rising prices everywhere, ppl struggling and you want to push up health care? Westmister has found £100 million to send to the Ukraine for weapons


No, not push up health care, get people who can afford prescriptions to pay and support the NHS. Our NHS is falling apart, yet we give free prescriptions to people on good salaries. Madness !!
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Welsh tourism tax on 18:44 - Apr 15 with 984 viewsLorax

Welsh tourism tax on 08:53 - Apr 15 by 73__73

82 million for a population of around 3.5 million that’s shocking


Not really, people on medication for their lifetime will get 12 prescriptions a year minimum. I personally get 12 because of high blood pressure, my wife has epilepsy and our son has asthma and a severe nut allergy, that's 40 scripts for just one house.
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Welsh tourism tax on 19:46 - Apr 15 with 973 viewsEagleEye

Welsh tourism tax on 21:32 - Apr 13 by Kilkennyjack

Great idea.

We could have used the HS2 monies due to us to build a north to south link road.
Would have a huge impact on tourism and culturally.

Shame that the Tory govt gave HS2 monies to Scotland and the north of Ireland, but gave nothing to wales.

HS2 is deemed an England and Wales project even though not a mile is in Wales.
Poor Wales pays for wealthy Englands HS2.

Robbery.


But it’s the Welsh government who are responsible for transport in Wales. It is the Welsh government that refuses to build an M4 relief road. It is the Welsh government that has baled out Cardiff airport … & while Cardiff airport says that it will take them 4 years to recover from the pandemic, just about every other airport cannot keep up with demand. You couldn’t make it up
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Welsh tourism tax on 20:13 - Apr 15 with 966 viewsLorax

Welsh tourism tax on 19:24 - Apr 14 by controversial_jack

Rising prices everywhere, ppl struggling and you want to push up health care? Westmister has found £100 million to send to the Ukraine for weapons


Prices are rising everywhere because of the Russian invasion. If Putin would leave Ukraine maybe prices would start to recede and we wouldn't need to send any more aid to Ukraine.

Think about it.

Maybe stop defending or excusing what Russia is doing and think about the effect it has on the world.
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Welsh tourism tax on 22:32 - Apr 15 with 939 views73__73

Welsh tourism tax on 18:44 - Apr 15 by Lorax

Not really, people on medication for their lifetime will get 12 prescriptions a year minimum. I personally get 12 because of high blood pressure, my wife has epilepsy and our son has asthma and a severe nut allergy, that's 40 scripts for just one house.


The pharmaceutical industry has you right where they want you.
There are non pharmaceutical ways of lowering blood pressure.

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Welsh tourism tax on 04:24 - Apr 16 with 901 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh tourism tax on 19:46 - Apr 15 by EagleEye

But it’s the Welsh government who are responsible for transport in Wales. It is the Welsh government that refuses to build an M4 relief road. It is the Welsh government that has baled out Cardiff airport … & while Cardiff airport says that it will take them 4 years to recover from the pandemic, just about every other airport cannot keep up with demand. You couldn’t make it up


You are wrong on railways. Its England Wales.

Roads and Cardiff Airport are devolved correct.
Welsh Govt correct on M4, welsh Govt correct on Cardiff Airport.

Without Welsh Govt Wales would be the only nation on Europe with no airport.
Look up passenger duty.

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Welsh tourism tax on 08:29 - Apr 16 with 879 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh tourism tax on 04:24 - Apr 16 by Kilkennyjack

You are wrong on railways. Its England Wales.

Roads and Cardiff Airport are devolved correct.
Welsh Govt correct on M4, welsh Govt correct on Cardiff Airport.

Without Welsh Govt Wales would be the only nation on Europe with no airport.
Look up passenger duty.


Everyone in South Wales agrees that the M4 relief road is essential to the Welsh economy, currently motorist and HGV are stuck in queues at peak times.
One way to restrictions new businesses West of Newport and tourist I suppose.

I guess Drakeford wants to keep Wales poor so he can blame the UK government.

The people in South Wales prefer to fly from Bristol, Heathrow, Gatwick and Luton. The people in North and Mid Wales prefer to fly from Manchester and Birmingham.

Wales' transport system is third world standard after 20 years of under invest by the Senedd over the last 20 years with Drakeford cancelling all new road projects.

Transport for Wales, the Welsh government run, railway network is not fit for purpose with 50 year old diesel train pumping out pollution.
[Post edited 16 Apr 2022 8:32]

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Welsh tourism tax on 08:52 - Apr 16 with 857 viewsBoundy

Welsh tourism tax on 04:24 - Apr 16 by Kilkennyjack

You are wrong on railways. Its England Wales.

Roads and Cardiff Airport are devolved correct.
Welsh Govt correct on M4, welsh Govt correct on Cardiff Airport.

Without Welsh Govt Wales would be the only nation on Europe with no airport.
Look up passenger duty.


So you're happy to concede that Wales has a modern road infrastructure which doesn't need improvement and we should have an airport (funded by the tax payer) because everyone else has . That's the economics of an idiot.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Welsh tourism tax on 09:19 - Apr 16 with 841 views73__73

Welsh tourism tax on 08:29 - Apr 16 by felixstowe_jack

Everyone in South Wales agrees that the M4 relief road is essential to the Welsh economy, currently motorist and HGV are stuck in queues at peak times.
One way to restrictions new businesses West of Newport and tourist I suppose.

I guess Drakeford wants to keep Wales poor so he can blame the UK government.

The people in South Wales prefer to fly from Bristol, Heathrow, Gatwick and Luton. The people in North and Mid Wales prefer to fly from Manchester and Birmingham.

Wales' transport system is third world standard after 20 years of under invest by the Senedd over the last 20 years with Drakeford cancelling all new road projects.

Transport for Wales, the Welsh government run, railway network is not fit for purpose with 50 year old diesel train pumping out pollution.
[Post edited 16 Apr 2022 8:32]


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Welsh tourism tax on 11:54 - Apr 16 with 827 viewsScotia

Welsh tourism tax on 04:24 - Apr 16 by Kilkennyjack

You are wrong on railways. Its England Wales.

Roads and Cardiff Airport are devolved correct.
Welsh Govt correct on M4, welsh Govt correct on Cardiff Airport.

Without Welsh Govt Wales would be the only nation on Europe with no airport.
Look up passenger duty.


Carwyn choose the cheapest route for the M4 relief road over WG owned land, unfortunately that route had significant environmental impact. Drakeford took over from Carwyn and introduced very tight environmental protection legislation that basically made the planned route illegal. It was refused in that basis.

A massive balls up.

WG were right to take over the airport, it's since that point things have gone wrong. Easyjet, Tui, Ryanair, jet2, Wizz, klm, lufthanza, aer lingus all fly multiple times from Bristol every day.

The only airline WG have attracted to Cardiff is one wizz aircraft and two ryanair destinations. They now want to tax tourists arriving in Wales.

The incompetence is staggering.
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Welsh tourism tax on 12:53 - Apr 16 with 819 viewsLorax

Welsh tourism tax on 04:24 - Apr 16 by Kilkennyjack

You are wrong on railways. Its England Wales.

Roads and Cardiff Airport are devolved correct.
Welsh Govt correct on M4, welsh Govt correct on Cardiff Airport.

Without Welsh Govt Wales would be the only nation on Europe with no airport.
Look up passenger duty.


You no doubt agree then, that spending 250 million on a new "Welsh Government" building was good value for money?

Do you also agree with increasing the numbers in the Senedd despite the maths showing we are over represented already?

Why is it important for Wales to spend tens of millions on an airport that hardly anybody uses and loses money on every flight?

Why are you in favour of wasting OUR money on massive white elephants that drain money from very important areas that are underfunded?

Why were the Welsh government correct on the M4? it seems you are happy for most of Wales to be left to stagnate. No wonder young people are leaving in droves and our ageing population won't have anybody left to look after them in 50 years. Wales will be a massive sheltered accommodation block where people are sent to be forgotten about until they die. Which will be more quickly as our already struggling NHS gets ever worse under ridiculous Senedd governance.

PS, Wales is not a nation, it is a country. Most of the population are ethnically of the Welsh nation but a very large chunk of its population are not Welsh. Wales has a diaspora of other nationalities.
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Welsh tourism tax on 13:45 - Apr 16 with 808 viewspikeypaul

Typical Dickford, not a clue about how business works.

Just like most of the lefties here, sponging a living off the taxpayer.

Parasite.
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Welsh tourism tax on 14:53 - Apr 16 with 788 viewsmajorraglan

Welsh tourism tax on 08:29 - Apr 16 by felixstowe_jack

Everyone in South Wales agrees that the M4 relief road is essential to the Welsh economy, currently motorist and HGV are stuck in queues at peak times.
One way to restrictions new businesses West of Newport and tourist I suppose.

I guess Drakeford wants to keep Wales poor so he can blame the UK government.

The people in South Wales prefer to fly from Bristol, Heathrow, Gatwick and Luton. The people in North and Mid Wales prefer to fly from Manchester and Birmingham.

Wales' transport system is third world standard after 20 years of under invest by the Senedd over the last 20 years with Drakeford cancelling all new road projects.

Transport for Wales, the Welsh government run, railway network is not fit for purpose with 50 year old diesel train pumping out pollution.
[Post edited 16 Apr 2022 8:32]


The lack of a relief road around Newport is a disaster as is the situation around Port Talbot and Swansea and it needs to be sorted as does the infrastructure further West and North. I can’t for 1 minute understand why 3 lane roads were built between St Clears and Pembrokeshire, it should have a duel carriageway and if they didn’t have the money they should have gone it over 2 or 3 financial years.

The people in South Wales don’t prefer to fly from Heathrow, Gatwick etc, it’s just a case of having no choice. Our transport infrastructure, much like the rest of the UK is poor and reflect years and years of under investment mostly by the Conservative governments who’ve been in power for the most of the last 40 years.

In terms of the railways, yes it is poor but WG have only just taken over the running of the railways after years of private ownership and you can’t undo 60 years of underinvestment overnight, especially as there were restrictions on acquiring new rolling stock. Look at the state of the railways in London where some companies had their franchises revoked.

I’m not a Drakers a fan, but I try to look at things objectively as opposed to an ideological blindness. Most of the UK is suffering from underinvestment gor years and years.
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Welsh tourism tax on 14:54 - Apr 16 with 787 viewsFlynnidine_Zidownes

Welsh tourism tax on 04:24 - Apr 16 by Kilkennyjack

You are wrong on railways. Its England Wales.

Roads and Cardiff Airport are devolved correct.
Welsh Govt correct on M4, welsh Govt correct on Cardiff Airport.

Without Welsh Govt Wales would be the only nation on Europe with no airport.
Look up passenger duty.


I usually fly from Bristol because the flights there are always an awful lot cheaper than Cardiff.
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Welsh tourism tax on 16:12 - Apr 16 with 765 viewsBadlands

Tourist tax is common all over the world.
And it didn’t stop 9 million visiting Rome.
None of the usual suspects moaned about the increased cost of travel into Europe as a result of Brexit ... insurance cover to replace EHIC.

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Welsh tourism tax on 16:33 - Apr 16 with 748 viewsunion_jack

Welsh tourism tax on 16:12 - Apr 16 by Badlands

Tourist tax is common all over the world.
And it didn’t stop 9 million visiting Rome.
None of the usual suspects moaned about the increased cost of travel into Europe as a result of Brexit ... insurance cover to replace EHIC.


Rome is unique in that there’s only one Colosseum, Trevi Fountain etc.

Wales isn’t unique in what it has to offer and would be pitting itself against the rest of the UK who can offer the same.

Just one big crazy idea.

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Welsh tourism tax on 16:34 - Apr 16 with 748 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh tourism tax on 16:12 - Apr 16 by Badlands

Tourist tax is common all over the world.
And it didn’t stop 9 million visiting Rome.
None of the usual suspects moaned about the increased cost of travel into Europe as a result of Brexit ... insurance cover to replace EHIC.


There has been increase in insurance cost to visit Europe The EHIC never paid for most of the costs anyway.

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Welsh tourism tax on 16:41 - Apr 16 with 738 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Welsh tourism tax on 14:53 - Apr 16 by majorraglan

The lack of a relief road around Newport is a disaster as is the situation around Port Talbot and Swansea and it needs to be sorted as does the infrastructure further West and North. I can’t for 1 minute understand why 3 lane roads were built between St Clears and Pembrokeshire, it should have a duel carriageway and if they didn’t have the money they should have gone it over 2 or 3 financial years.

The people in South Wales don’t prefer to fly from Heathrow, Gatwick etc, it’s just a case of having no choice. Our transport infrastructure, much like the rest of the UK is poor and reflect years and years of under investment mostly by the Conservative governments who’ve been in power for the most of the last 40 years.

In terms of the railways, yes it is poor but WG have only just taken over the running of the railways after years of private ownership and you can’t undo 60 years of underinvestment overnight, especially as there were restrictions on acquiring new rolling stock. Look at the state of the railways in London where some companies had their franchises revoked.

I’m not a Drakers a fan, but I try to look at things objectively as opposed to an ideological blindness. Most of the UK is suffering from underinvestment gor years and years.


The Welsh government took over Transport for Wales SIX years ago in 2016 not recently.

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Welsh tourism tax on 16:50 - Apr 16 with 724 viewsLorax

Welsh tourism tax on 16:34 - Apr 16 by felixstowe_jack

There has been increase in insurance cost to visit Europe The EHIC never paid for most of the costs anyway.


We had EHIC cards but we always took out decent insurance anyway. I heard many stories of hospitals across Europe asking for payment and not accepting EHIC, specially in Spain.
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Welsh tourism tax on 17:06 - Apr 16 with 714 viewsmajorraglan

Welsh tourism tax on 16:41 - Apr 16 by felixstowe_jack

The Welsh government took over Transport for Wales SIX years ago in 2016 not recently.


The Arriva Trains Wales contract ended in October 2018, until that point the WG had not control on trains in Wales.
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Welsh tourism tax on 17:52 - Apr 16 with 705 viewsKilkennyjack

Welsh tourism tax on 12:53 - Apr 16 by Lorax

You no doubt agree then, that spending 250 million on a new "Welsh Government" building was good value for money?

Do you also agree with increasing the numbers in the Senedd despite the maths showing we are over represented already?

Why is it important for Wales to spend tens of millions on an airport that hardly anybody uses and loses money on every flight?

Why are you in favour of wasting OUR money on massive white elephants that drain money from very important areas that are underfunded?

Why were the Welsh government correct on the M4? it seems you are happy for most of Wales to be left to stagnate. No wonder young people are leaving in droves and our ageing population won't have anybody left to look after them in 50 years. Wales will be a massive sheltered accommodation block where people are sent to be forgotten about until they die. Which will be more quickly as our already struggling NHS gets ever worse under ridiculous Senedd governance.

PS, Wales is not a nation, it is a country. Most of the population are ethnically of the Welsh nation but a very large chunk of its population are not Welsh. Wales has a diaspora of other nationalities.


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