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The full press release analysed, click above.
The fools pesky piece below.
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"- another shambolic transfer window that he was apparently overseeing. Getting the business done early we were told....."
That's wrong, he was over on a Family holiday, which he disrupted [bless him] to sort the Trust out mun  |
Yes how good of him. What a hero |  |
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"- another shambolic transfer window that he was apparently overseeing. Getting the business done early we were told....."
That's wrong, he was over on a Family holiday, which he disrupted [bless him] to sort the Trust out mun |
Some people sit in a room and get things sorted. Other pay London smoothies £400k for 'dim byd' and pontificate and moan for SIX years.
'Taffy' sat on their hands posturing fr 6 years and the 'Yankee 'came over and fixed it for them in a week or two while sightseeing. Shameful. |  |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 13:37 - May 8 with 782 views | Chief |
| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 13:08 - May 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Some people sit in a room and get things sorted. Other pay London smoothies £400k for 'dim byd' and pontificate and moan for SIX years.
'Taffy' sat on their hands posturing fr 6 years and the 'Yankee 'came over and fixed it for them in a week or two while sightseeing. Shameful. |
Why are you incapable of forming any argument without bringing the trust into it? Zero credibility.
We're discussing Silverstein's performance. So far he's failing. And you are unable to provide anything back as a retort. | |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 13:37 - May 8 by Chief |
Why are you incapable of forming any argument without bringing the trust into it? Zero credibility.
We're discussing Silverstein's performance. So far he's failing. And you are unable to provide anything back as a retort. |
So far Siverstein's greatest achievement was resolving the mess the Trust got themselves into. The SCST need to do a whole lot better with the platform developed for them by their ex fellow board members.
A consensual approach will be far better for them. The confrontational legal approach was a calamity even you now recognise. | |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 14:04 - May 8 with 761 views | Chief |
| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 13:56 - May 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
So far Siverstein's greatest achievement was resolving the mess the Trust got themselves into. The SCST need to do a whole lot better with the platform developed for them by their ex fellow board members.
A consensual approach will be far better for them. The confrontational legal approach was a calamity even you now recognise. |
As I say, you're incapable of making a point without banging on about the trust's policies again. Which are irrelevant to this debate.
And as I say, it's not much of an achievement to get it done. Nothings changed and the club isn't any better off as a result. In fact with the weakening of the trust resulting from the deal has bleakened the long term future of the club.
Poor transfer window, failure to convert = failure. | |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 14:04 - May 8 by Chief |
As I say, you're incapable of making a point without banging on about the trust's policies again. Which are irrelevant to this debate.
And as I say, it's not much of an achievement to get it done. Nothings changed and the club isn't any better off as a result. In fact with the weakening of the trust resulting from the deal has bleakened the long term future of the club.
Poor transfer window, failure to convert = failure. |
You incapable of not having the lat word on all issues. They will convert when they want to in accordance with the terms which the Trust almost certainly know. It will happen however before the agreed conversion date.
It will be a major surprise in Silverstein does not. He still it seems still wants to buy cheap club shares and is talking on behalf of the other owners about strategy. | |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 17:03 - May 8 with 708 views | Chief |
| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 16:56 - May 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You incapable of not having the lat word on all issues. They will convert when they want to in accordance with the terms which the Trust almost certainly know. It will happen however before the agreed conversion date.
It will be a major surprise in Silverstein does not. He still it seems still wants to buy cheap club shares and is talking on behalf of the other owners about strategy. |
If there were any points being by you worthy of being the last word I'd happily leave it. But that's not the case.
Yes and until they do convert, it's nothing more than a loan. If the trust do know, they aren't telling the members. They supposedly don't know when it will be converted. No promises were made.
Well what's the hold up then? Until he converts his role so far has been a failure. | |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 17:03 - May 8 by Chief |
If there were any points being by you worthy of being the last word I'd happily leave it. But that's not the case.
Yes and until they do convert, it's nothing more than a loan. If the trust do know, they aren't telling the members. They supposedly don't know when it will be converted. No promises were made.
Well what's the hold up then? Until he converts his role so far has been a failure. |
There is no hold up. It is a figment of your imagination. Silverstein will buy his shares with the money he has loaned when it is appropriate for him and the club. It has to before or on the termination date. The Trust almost certainly will have asked and will have been told this date as joint owners.
At that point the Trust shareholding will be diluted. Investment = dilution of non investors. (whoever they may be).
As I explained last year diluting to nothing that the previous Chair said was mathematically impossible and diluting the Trust share to less than 5% for the existing position will take huge investment sums theses owners will never do. Giving 'protection' to 5% costs them nothing in real terms. But that is what the members wanted. I would like to see the terms and conditions.
His loan has been far from a failure. The pitch has been relaid stadium steel work painted and Piroe Downes, Obafemi and Patterson successful signings. Burns and Ogbeta not so good and changes have been made in recruitment. (Allen leaving) | |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 18:04 - May 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
There is no hold up. It is a figment of your imagination. Silverstein will buy his shares with the money he has loaned when it is appropriate for him and the club. It has to before or on the termination date. The Trust almost certainly will have asked and will have been told this date as joint owners.
At that point the Trust shareholding will be diluted. Investment = dilution of non investors. (whoever they may be).
As I explained last year diluting to nothing that the previous Chair said was mathematically impossible and diluting the Trust share to less than 5% for the existing position will take huge investment sums theses owners will never do. Giving 'protection' to 5% costs them nothing in real terms. But that is what the members wanted. I would like to see the terms and conditions.
His loan has been far from a failure. The pitch has been relaid stadium steel work painted and Piroe Downes, Obafemi and Patterson successful signings. Burns and Ogbeta not so good and changes have been made in recruitment. (Allen leaving) |
You do like stating unfounded assumptions as if they are fact. Until he converts nothing can be taken for granted.
The trust shares aren't diluted as such, they have essentially been bought haven't they? Isn't that what the 500k was for? Don't forget the clubs value is much less now than when they arrived.
The pitch had to be re-laid, the stadium had to be painted before rust set in too far and it got ultra expensive to fix. They would have happened regardless, unless the owners are stupid.
Now those signings, when were they bought and when did Silverstein loan the money? | | | |
| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 18:33 - May 8 with 676 views | Chief |
| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 18:04 - May 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
There is no hold up. It is a figment of your imagination. Silverstein will buy his shares with the money he has loaned when it is appropriate for him and the club. It has to before or on the termination date. The Trust almost certainly will have asked and will have been told this date as joint owners.
At that point the Trust shareholding will be diluted. Investment = dilution of non investors. (whoever they may be).
As I explained last year diluting to nothing that the previous Chair said was mathematically impossible and diluting the Trust share to less than 5% for the existing position will take huge investment sums theses owners will never do. Giving 'protection' to 5% costs them nothing in real terms. But that is what the members wanted. I would like to see the terms and conditions.
His loan has been far from a failure. The pitch has been relaid stadium steel work painted and Piroe Downes, Obafemi and Patterson successful signings. Burns and Ogbeta not so good and changes have been made in recruitment. (Allen leaving) |
- it's a figment of my imagination that nearly two years on the loan still hasn't been converted? Time to wake up Resloven. It's fact not fiction. Yes the trust have asked and were given no dates or guarantees, so you're lying.
- yes dilution will occur after conversion if they convert.
- back to the trust again? Thus obsession can't be healthy for you. You literally turn every post back to them. Don't see the relevance to this conversation so I won't bother addressing that waffle.
- the pitch should have been insured and the stadium shouldn't have been allowed to get into that state. Let's face it that would be peanuts for a championship football club. As for the transfers you can't just say every signing we make is down to his loan, especially when our incoming fees are roughly level with our outgoings. We don't even know if it's been spent.
- overall he's been a failure - non conversion and that poor transfer window on his watch. | |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 18:35 - May 8 with 675 views | Chief |
| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 18:13 - May 8 by Lorax |
You do like stating unfounded assumptions as if they are fact. Until he converts nothing can be taken for granted.
The trust shares aren't diluted as such, they have essentially been bought haven't they? Isn't that what the 500k was for? Don't forget the clubs value is much less now than when they arrived.
The pitch had to be re-laid, the stadium had to be painted before rust set in too far and it got ultra expensive to fix. They would have happened regardless, unless the owners are stupid.
Now those signings, when were they bought and when did Silverstein loan the money? |
The 500k is an out of court settlement paid by the sellouts for their disgraceful conduct. | |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 18:13 - May 8 by Lorax |
You do like stating unfounded assumptions as if they are fact. Until he converts nothing can be taken for granted.
The trust shares aren't diluted as such, they have essentially been bought haven't they? Isn't that what the 500k was for? Don't forget the clubs value is much less now than when they arrived.
The pitch had to be re-laid, the stadium had to be painted before rust set in too far and it got ultra expensive to fix. They would have happened regardless, unless the owners are stupid.
Now those signings, when were they bought and when did Silverstein loan the money? |
No Trust share have been bought or sold The Trust do not want to sell their shares at Championship valuations. They tried to force the other shareholders to buy their shares at the 2016 selling price but failed. What they would do with the money was a mystery. They would claim £21m and give half at least £10.5m to their third party funders according to the new Trust leadership.
If they sold today they would get £8m. If they won in court £10.5m. They were given £0.5m as a sweetener to end the case. If the club return to the PL their shares could be worth £30m after dilution. The Trust are not in a rush for cash as far as I can see.
Silverstein does not want the Trust's shares he wants new share. He wants to give money to the club (who can use it) not the Trust (who have no plans for the money as far as i know).
Ideally the Trust would also be involved in the loan but by the looks of it are not involved unless they say otherwise. The Trust 21% is too big and always has been. To avoid dilution they need to match fund. This means £2.1m for every £10m invested. Impossible for them. If it was 5% they would only need £500k. The Trust needed to sell in the Premier leagues to reduce their responsibilities with regard to investment
The club was faced with a dilemma after Covid left a cash flow problem perhaps. Choices had to be made. Maintenance or players. The pitch or Piroe. " No Piroe no pitch" you might sing. They then agreed to put in new money and do both.
The CLN was reported s around £13m . Winter stated Silverstein match funded by the Levien group "and other local shareholders" (unspecified). I believe the CLN and trust settlement issues are related and settled by the creative business thinking US business people are well known for.
Do not compare Levien and co with the Glazers. They did not buy Swansea with debt and the club are not paying interest on that debt. Glazers did and by all accounts Old Trafford is suffering from a lack of investment. Burnley will be in the doo do if relegated a they were also bought with debt. Connor Roberts was perhaps bought with borrowed money off the Dell Corporation.
Some forum dwellers are not the brightest and work on emotion and are easily led. Comparing Levein and with the Glazers is a comparison for the lazy. Repainting of the stadium was a good sign that things are Swansea are being done right. Birch being Chairman is another sign Respected figures.
Swansea is a decent family club. If some fans shun the wife and children of departing players and proud of it, then that is OK. The club is a broad church. [Post edited 8 May 2022 19:00]
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 19:26 - May 8 with 646 views | Chief |
| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 18:56 - May 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
No Trust share have been bought or sold The Trust do not want to sell their shares at Championship valuations. They tried to force the other shareholders to buy their shares at the 2016 selling price but failed. What they would do with the money was a mystery. They would claim £21m and give half at least £10.5m to their third party funders according to the new Trust leadership.
If they sold today they would get £8m. If they won in court £10.5m. They were given £0.5m as a sweetener to end the case. If the club return to the PL their shares could be worth £30m after dilution. The Trust are not in a rush for cash as far as I can see.
Silverstein does not want the Trust's shares he wants new share. He wants to give money to the club (who can use it) not the Trust (who have no plans for the money as far as i know).
Ideally the Trust would also be involved in the loan but by the looks of it are not involved unless they say otherwise. The Trust 21% is too big and always has been. To avoid dilution they need to match fund. This means £2.1m for every £10m invested. Impossible for them. If it was 5% they would only need £500k. The Trust needed to sell in the Premier leagues to reduce their responsibilities with regard to investment
The club was faced with a dilemma after Covid left a cash flow problem perhaps. Choices had to be made. Maintenance or players. The pitch or Piroe. " No Piroe no pitch" you might sing. They then agreed to put in new money and do both.
The CLN was reported s around £13m . Winter stated Silverstein match funded by the Levien group "and other local shareholders" (unspecified). I believe the CLN and trust settlement issues are related and settled by the creative business thinking US business people are well known for.
Do not compare Levien and co with the Glazers. They did not buy Swansea with debt and the club are not paying interest on that debt. Glazers did and by all accounts Old Trafford is suffering from a lack of investment. Burnley will be in the doo do if relegated a they were also bought with debt. Connor Roberts was perhaps bought with borrowed money off the Dell Corporation.
Some forum dwellers are not the brightest and work on emotion and are easily led. Comparing Levein and with the Glazers is a comparison for the lazy. Repainting of the stadium was a good sign that things are Swansea are being done right. Birch being Chairman is another sign Respected figures.
Swansea is a decent family club. If some fans shun the wife and children of departing players and proud of it, then that is OK. The club is a broad church. [Post edited 8 May 2022 19:00]
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- you don't know how much they'd be paying for legal services (which you state as fact) but at least you admit that a win in court would be more financially lucrative than selling the shares now.
- Silverstein as it stands doesn't particularly want any shares. He's had the chance to have championship priced shares for nearly two years but has decided against getting them.
- you know the trust aren't involved in the CLN so you look utterly ridiculous for suggesting otherwise.
- where has anyone compared these owners to the Glazers then? So let me get this straight - you're calling people dim for saying something that no one appears to have said? You love inventing these narratives to justify your dubious viewpoints.
- can you remind us how it came to be that the club is responsible for the upkeep of the stadium please? | |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 20:03 - May 8 with 624 views | Lorax |
| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 18:56 - May 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
No Trust share have been bought or sold The Trust do not want to sell their shares at Championship valuations. They tried to force the other shareholders to buy their shares at the 2016 selling price but failed. What they would do with the money was a mystery. They would claim £21m and give half at least £10.5m to their third party funders according to the new Trust leadership.
If they sold today they would get £8m. If they won in court £10.5m. They were given £0.5m as a sweetener to end the case. If the club return to the PL their shares could be worth £30m after dilution. The Trust are not in a rush for cash as far as I can see.
Silverstein does not want the Trust's shares he wants new share. He wants to give money to the club (who can use it) not the Trust (who have no plans for the money as far as i know).
Ideally the Trust would also be involved in the loan but by the looks of it are not involved unless they say otherwise. The Trust 21% is too big and always has been. To avoid dilution they need to match fund. This means £2.1m for every £10m invested. Impossible for them. If it was 5% they would only need £500k. The Trust needed to sell in the Premier leagues to reduce their responsibilities with regard to investment
The club was faced with a dilemma after Covid left a cash flow problem perhaps. Choices had to be made. Maintenance or players. The pitch or Piroe. " No Piroe no pitch" you might sing. They then agreed to put in new money and do both.
The CLN was reported s around £13m . Winter stated Silverstein match funded by the Levien group "and other local shareholders" (unspecified). I believe the CLN and trust settlement issues are related and settled by the creative business thinking US business people are well known for.
Do not compare Levien and co with the Glazers. They did not buy Swansea with debt and the club are not paying interest on that debt. Glazers did and by all accounts Old Trafford is suffering from a lack of investment. Burnley will be in the doo do if relegated a they were also bought with debt. Connor Roberts was perhaps bought with borrowed money off the Dell Corporation.
Some forum dwellers are not the brightest and work on emotion and are easily led. Comparing Levein and with the Glazers is a comparison for the lazy. Repainting of the stadium was a good sign that things are Swansea are being done right. Birch being Chairman is another sign Respected figures.
Swansea is a decent family club. If some fans shun the wife and children of departing players and proud of it, then that is OK. The club is a broad church. [Post edited 8 May 2022 19:00]
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What is really dim is stating your own opinion as fact, it's your opinion, nothing more.
Even dimmer is making up something I literally didn't say then attributing it to me and calling me dim for saying it.....everyone can see what we have written and they will decide who actually looks dim.
There is no option to spending on stadium maintenance. if the stadium becomes unsafe then the council may remove the safety certificate and it could mean closing part or all of the ground down which means reduced income until the work is done. It's not an either/or situation. The painting had needed doing for a long time mind, it had been rusty for many months.
That last bit about shunning the players families...that's another figment of your imagination. Who mentioned doing that, let alone be proud of it? Certainly not me, I wasn't even at the game, I was at my sons football tournament, being a good family man myself.
You know, when, on a public forum, you make up stuff to try and be critical of others, it doesn't half make you look daft. A bit of a theme has developed there. | | | |
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What is really dim is stating your own opinion as fact, it's your opinion, nothing more.
Even dimmer is making up something I literally didn't say then attributing it to me and calling me dim for saying it.....everyone can see what we have written and they will decide who actually looks dim.
There is no option to spending on stadium maintenance. if the stadium becomes unsafe then the council may remove the safety certificate and it could mean closing part or all of the ground down which means reduced income until the work is done. It's not an either/or situation. The painting had needed doing for a long time mind, it had been rusty for many months.
That last bit about shunning the players families...that's another figment of your imagination. Who mentioned doing that, let alone be proud of it? Certainly not me, I wasn't even at the game, I was at my sons football tournament, being a good family man myself.
You know, when, on a public forum, you make up stuff to try and be critical of others, it doesn't half make you look daft. A bit of a theme has developed there. |
You did not understand the matter and i took time to explain it to you. There is no reason why you should understand it if you have not looked into the matter.
I did not call you dim. I stated some fans are not the brightest and are easily led. This led to a SIX YEAR waste of time and £400k wasted legal fees by the Trust . I did use the "dim" word but in Welsh.
There is an option of not doing maintenance and I gave you an example. You may have heard of a recent event where all the tills were out of action at Old Trafford for one match and nothing could be sold. It would need to be pretty bad for the Council to shut it down.
I recall deciding not to go to one FA cup match the Vetch field considering it at the time to be unsafe with regard to crushing at a sellout match.
I do not make stuff up but give an opinion. I do not comment on other posters unless provoked. I do not worry being declared at looking daft by Swansea fans or Trust members. | |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 21:13 - May 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You did not understand the matter and i took time to explain it to you. There is no reason why you should understand it if you have not looked into the matter.
I did not call you dim. I stated some fans are not the brightest and are easily led. This led to a SIX YEAR waste of time and £400k wasted legal fees by the Trust . I did use the "dim" word but in Welsh.
There is an option of not doing maintenance and I gave you an example. You may have heard of a recent event where all the tills were out of action at Old Trafford for one match and nothing could be sold. It would need to be pretty bad for the Council to shut it down.
I recall deciding not to go to one FA cup match the Vetch field considering it at the time to be unsafe with regard to crushing at a sellout match.
I do not make stuff up but give an opinion. I do not comment on other posters unless provoked. I do not worry being declared at looking daft by Swansea fans or Trust members. |
"i do not make stuff up"
Further up this thread you alluded to the trust knowing when Silverstein is going to convert and also that the trust knew the terms of the CLN.
Which we know for a fact it isn't the case. And you've got the audacity to call others dim  | |
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| Jake Silverstein ‘We are playing Exciting Engaging football’ Swansea City di on 18:56 - May 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
No Trust share have been bought or sold The Trust do not want to sell their shares at Championship valuations. They tried to force the other shareholders to buy their shares at the 2016 selling price but failed. What they would do with the money was a mystery. They would claim £21m and give half at least £10.5m to their third party funders according to the new Trust leadership.
If they sold today they would get £8m. If they won in court £10.5m. They were given £0.5m as a sweetener to end the case. If the club return to the PL their shares could be worth £30m after dilution. The Trust are not in a rush for cash as far as I can see.
Silverstein does not want the Trust's shares he wants new share. He wants to give money to the club (who can use it) not the Trust (who have no plans for the money as far as i know).
Ideally the Trust would also be involved in the loan but by the looks of it are not involved unless they say otherwise. The Trust 21% is too big and always has been. To avoid dilution they need to match fund. This means £2.1m for every £10m invested. Impossible for them. If it was 5% they would only need £500k. The Trust needed to sell in the Premier leagues to reduce their responsibilities with regard to investment
The club was faced with a dilemma after Covid left a cash flow problem perhaps. Choices had to be made. Maintenance or players. The pitch or Piroe. " No Piroe no pitch" you might sing. They then agreed to put in new money and do both.
The CLN was reported s around £13m . Winter stated Silverstein match funded by the Levien group "and other local shareholders" (unspecified). I believe the CLN and trust settlement issues are related and settled by the creative business thinking US business people are well known for.
Do not compare Levien and co with the Glazers. They did not buy Swansea with debt and the club are not paying interest on that debt. Glazers did and by all accounts Old Trafford is suffering from a lack of investment. Burnley will be in the doo do if relegated a they were also bought with debt. Connor Roberts was perhaps bought with borrowed money off the Dell Corporation.
Some forum dwellers are not the brightest and work on emotion and are easily led. Comparing Levein and with the Glazers is a comparison for the lazy. Repainting of the stadium was a good sign that things are Swansea are being done right. Birch being Chairman is another sign Respected figures.
Swansea is a decent family club. If some fans shun the wife and children of departing players and proud of it, then that is OK. The club is a broad church. [Post edited 8 May 2022 19:00]
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The club are paying interest on the debt (CLN) | | | |
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The club are paying interest on the debt (CLN) |
I picked this up on a website Harper and James. I
{{A company will usually pay interest on its convertible debt at a rate of between 4% and 8% per annum. However, in reality, interest is rarely paid but rather deferred or ‘rolled-up’ into the amount to be repaid or converted into equity}} . | |
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I picked this up on a website Harper and James. I
{{A company will usually pay interest on its convertible debt at a rate of between 4% and 8% per annum. However, in reality, interest is rarely paid but rather deferred or ‘rolled-up’ into the amount to be repaid or converted into equity}} . |
1. You don't know this is the case with this specific CLN.
2. This is only relevant if conversion happens (which isn't guaranteed). | |
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