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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team 16:14 - May 26 with 3615 viewsSTID2017

When you consider how much Forest have spent net this season against what Huddersfield have actually managed to recoup this season, then surely Carlos Corberàn should be Manager of the season ?
After all he has achieved ( to date ) as much as Steve Cooper and his club are financially £6 million better off ?

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 14:33 - May 27 with 673 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 14:14 - May 27 by onehunglow

It's like this boys.Sit back ,read and let it sink in from the No 1 poster on this site.

It is about supporting the club not a coach.

Cooper failed;he blew 2 farking play offs.
Martin has also failed. Clearly

Problem is ,Cooper has gone and proven he can be successful whereas Martin has won bugger all and still with us. We will win nothing with him.

Now,People are supporting Martin as they see themselves as a better type of fan.Clearly.This is evidenced buy Fireboy's grotesque dig at fans HE sees as not a loyal as him. He has big chums on here who go along to games with him and get drunk along with him. This is good support,apparently.

People "supporting" Martin are doijg no such thing;they are supporting the club which happens to employ Martin.When he moves on,which he will,they will then support the new coach;which is right.

There is no need for any fan to wave his memeber at others making out he is in some way more loyal/supportive or a better fan and one who should be admired by readers.

Being the worse type of scumfan ,I really don't give a monkeys who coaches us or who doesn't but I will not have my club insulted by an ingenue like Martin nor will I be taken in by some incredible and relentless drivel about work in progress/project,etc.

Cooper fans we don't need

Martin fans too


What do you mean by ''blew'' two play offs?

You mean lost, right?

But we were expected to lose every game that he did lose in those play-offs, we were large underdogs each time.

You can lose a game without ''blowing'' it.

Did Wales ''blow'' Euro 2016 because they lost expectedly in the Semi's to Portugal? I think it would be a ludicrous accusation personally.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:10 - May 27 with 615 viewsonehunglow

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 14:33 - May 27 by Dr_Parnassus

What do you mean by ''blew'' two play offs?

You mean lost, right?

But we were expected to lose every game that he did lose in those play-offs, we were large underdogs each time.

You can lose a game without ''blowing'' it.

Did Wales ''blow'' Euro 2016 because they lost expectedly in the Semi's to Portugal? I think it would be a ludicrous accusation personally.


The respect for posters applies to me as well as those you are in regular jousts with.

Blew it means exactly that.No need for semantics or changing syntax.

Blew it.Lost it.

He has gone and he is history.


Blown away.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:14 - May 27 with 610 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:10 - May 27 by onehunglow

The respect for posters applies to me as well as those you are in regular jousts with.

Blew it means exactly that.No need for semantics or changing syntax.

Blew it.Lost it.

He has gone and he is history.


Blown away.


Blew it doesn't mean lost.

Syntax is vital because words can be misrepresented which you tried there.

He lost two play off matches he was expected to lose. He didn't blow anything.

I take you back to my Wales 2016 example. They lost in the semis, they didnt blow it.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:19 - May 27 with 612 viewsSTID2017

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 14:10 - May 27 by Dr_Parnassus

Yes you have said that. Not sure why you keep making such a ludicrous point, it wasn't remotely interesting the first time.

We finished 15th. What exactly would you like me to praise?

You have started 7 Cooper threads in your last 2 pages of created threads. The people you reference have created that combined.

Get over him, he's gone and continuing to do well.


I was over him the day of the Brentford Final.
Yet you constantly defend him and show all sorts of "facts and figures" to prove what a brilliant manager he was / is and how great Forest are.
Yiu are the one obsessed with him.
Perhaps take your own advice and get over him ?

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:21 - May 27 with 603 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:19 - May 27 by STID2017

I was over him the day of the Brentford Final.
Yet you constantly defend him and show all sorts of "facts and figures" to prove what a brilliant manager he was / is and how great Forest are.
Yiu are the one obsessed with him.
Perhaps take your own advice and get over him ?


Why have you created 7 threads on him in your last 2 pages of threads then?

More than double anyone else you accuse of it, which is ironic.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:22 - May 27 with 605 viewsonehunglow

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:14 - May 27 by Dr_Parnassus

Blew it doesn't mean lost.

Syntax is vital because words can be misrepresented which you tried there.

He lost two play off matches he was expected to lose. He didn't blow anything.

I take you back to my Wales 2016 example. They lost in the semis, they didnt blow it.


Blew it is what happened.

He is gone.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:24 - May 27 with 601 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:22 - May 27 by onehunglow

Blew it is what happened.

He is gone.


Factually incorrect.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:33 - May 27 with 604 viewsSTID2017

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:21 - May 27 by Dr_Parnassus

Why have you created 7 threads on him in your last 2 pages of threads then?

More than double anyone else you accuse of it, which is ironic.


Actually I have created 27 posts in May on the forum.
Four of which make any reference to Cooper.
Hardly obsessive is it ?
One of those was comparing the teams in the POF ( this one) and one was praising Tatey, although I did mention I was surprised Cooper didn't applaud the Swans fans.
BTW the rest on page two of my created posts made no mention of Cooper ?
Think you need to do the math again, son.
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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:37 - May 27 with 593 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:33 - May 27 by STID2017

Actually I have created 27 posts in May on the forum.
Four of which make any reference to Cooper.
Hardly obsessive is it ?
One of those was comparing the teams in the POF ( this one) and one was praising Tatey, although I did mention I was surprised Cooper didn't applaud the Swans fans.
BTW the rest on page two of my created posts made no mention of Cooper ?
Think you need to do the math again, son.
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Why are you just counting May?

You have created 7 threads in your last 2 pages of threads created about Cooper/Forest.

more than double that of anyone you accuse.

Facts.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:40 - May 27 with 598 viewsSTID2017

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:22 - May 27 by onehunglow

Blew it is what happened.

He is gone.


I agree.
Whatever words you use and Dr P dismissed, the end result we could have got into the final first time and we could have won the second year.
Except Cooper let us down or as we like to call it in Swansea " bottled it "
No doubt Dr P will be along to dismiss that too

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:42 - May 27 with 590 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:40 - May 27 by STID2017

I agree.
Whatever words you use and Dr P dismissed, the end result we could have got into the final first time and we could have won the second year.
Except Cooper let us down or as we like to call it in Swansea " bottled it "
No doubt Dr P will be along to dismiss that too


We could have done a lot of things, doesn't mean we ''should'' have though.

We could have won the FA Cup this season, would be silly to say we blew it though.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:59 - May 27 with 586 viewsSTID2017

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:42 - May 27 by Dr_Parnassus

We could have done a lot of things, doesn't mean we ''should'' have though.

We could have won the FA Cup this season, would be silly to say we blew it though.


As I said, you can't accept others views ( even though it is as many of us get and still feel ).
Touch arrogant, aren't we son.
Cooper blew it / bottled it / lost two games we shoulda, coulda won ( except that we and he failed to turn up of course for the second one and he got his tactics wrong for the first one . I know you disagree with that, but it was and is how many of us felt. Of course, you know better)

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 21:02 - May 27 with 578 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 20:59 - May 27 by STID2017

As I said, you can't accept others views ( even though it is as many of us get and still feel ).
Touch arrogant, aren't we son.
Cooper blew it / bottled it / lost two games we shoulda, coulda won ( except that we and he failed to turn up of course for the second one and he got his tactics wrong for the first one . I know you disagree with that, but it was and is how many of us felt. Of course, you know better)


Not arrogant, just right.

Whether you feel that way is irrelevant. We were underdogs and expectedly lost, I understand you wanted to win but I’m afraid it’s tough. That’s life.

I wanted to win the FA Cup this year, but it would be awfully silly to say we bottled it or blew it.

If losing a game means you bottle something then we bottle more games under Martin than I can remember before.

Thankfully it doesn’t mean that and the rest of us can remain sensible.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 21:18 - May 27 with 577 viewsSTID2017

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 21:02 - May 27 by Dr_Parnassus

Not arrogant, just right.

Whether you feel that way is irrelevant. We were underdogs and expectedly lost, I understand you wanted to win but I’m afraid it’s tough. That’s life.

I wanted to win the FA Cup this year, but it would be awfully silly to say we bottled it or blew it.

If losing a game means you bottle something then we bottle more games under Martin than I can remember before.

Thankfully it doesn’t mean that and the rest of us can remain sensible.


By the rest of us you mean you and a small select group ?
Why don't you do a poll on here to see who believes Cooper bottled the play offs both years and who doesn't ?
Whether I feel that way is exactly the point.
Having an opinion doesn't make you right.
I fully understand and accept we are poles apart on what Cooper achieved or failed to achieve.
However whether they can be classed as ( minor ) successes or ( major ) failures is a matter of opinion.
Nothing else.
Had Cooper won the final last year then that would be an achievement no one could take away from him.
As it is, to date he has not won a promotion or a major trophy. Fact

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 21:23 - May 27 with 570 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 21:18 - May 27 by STID2017

By the rest of us you mean you and a small select group ?
Why don't you do a poll on here to see who believes Cooper bottled the play offs both years and who doesn't ?
Whether I feel that way is exactly the point.
Having an opinion doesn't make you right.
I fully understand and accept we are poles apart on what Cooper achieved or failed to achieve.
However whether they can be classed as ( minor ) successes or ( major ) failures is a matter of opinion.
Nothing else.
Had Cooper won the final last year then that would be an achievement no one could take away from him.
As it is, to date he has not won a promotion or a major trophy. Fact


You think only a small group recognise that losing a game doesn’t mean “bottling” or “blowing it”?

Unfortunately after your multi scandal, polls aren’t really something that are very reliable. It was noted the second the multi scandal was revealed Builth lost around 8 votes in the historical POTY vote, someone was covering their tracks….

Cooper was a resounding success, taking a side bit expected to do much after losing key players from the side Potter could only get to 10th. Instead he managed two back to back play off seasons, only losing to Brentford who finished above us twice and were heavy favourites in both.

You don’t have to win promotion or a major trophy to be a fantastic manager. Just constantly exceeding expectations will do that for you.

Cooper has done it every single year.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 21:36 - May 27 with 574 viewsSTID2017

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 21:23 - May 27 by Dr_Parnassus

You think only a small group recognise that losing a game doesn’t mean “bottling” or “blowing it”?

Unfortunately after your multi scandal, polls aren’t really something that are very reliable. It was noted the second the multi scandal was revealed Builth lost around 8 votes in the historical POTY vote, someone was covering their tracks….

Cooper was a resounding success, taking a side bit expected to do much after losing key players from the side Potter could only get to 10th. Instead he managed two back to back play off seasons, only losing to Brentford who finished above us twice and were heavy favourites in both.

You don’t have to win promotion or a major trophy to be a fantastic manager. Just constantly exceeding expectations will do that for you.

Cooper has done it every single year.


My point is none of that is fact.
It is just a viewpoint.
I hold the opposite viewpoint, as do many.
If you accept that others have an opinion, then you can have a sensible debate.
If not it is impossible.
Not sure if you were able to get to Wembley last year, but after spending all day travelling there and back, plus not an inconsiderable sum, to see Cooper's total indifference on the touchline ( compare that to how animated he has been with Forest ) and the total lack of commitment from the team on the day, believe me when I say it left many a travelling Swans fan angry, not to say many who could not attend and watched it on TV

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 21:42 - May 27 with 564 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 21:36 - May 27 by STID2017

My point is none of that is fact.
It is just a viewpoint.
I hold the opposite viewpoint, as do many.
If you accept that others have an opinion, then you can have a sensible debate.
If not it is impossible.
Not sure if you were able to get to Wembley last year, but after spending all day travelling there and back, plus not an inconsiderable sum, to see Cooper's total indifference on the touchline ( compare that to how animated he has been with Forest ) and the total lack of commitment from the team on the day, believe me when I say it left many a travelling Swans fan angry, not to say many who could not attend and watched it on TV


No it’s all fact.

Paying money to go to a game doesn’t guarantee you win, especially when we are large underdogs against a clearly better team.

That’s the risk you take when you go to a game. We haven’t won 33 times this season, or bottled it 33 times this season if you like.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 21:36 - May 27 by STID2017

My point is none of that is fact.
It is just a viewpoint.
I hold the opposite viewpoint, as do many.
If you accept that others have an opinion, then you can have a sensible debate.
If not it is impossible.
Not sure if you were able to get to Wembley last year, but after spending all day travelling there and back, plus not an inconsiderable sum, to see Cooper's total indifference on the touchline ( compare that to how animated he has been with Forest ) and the total lack of commitment from the team on the day, believe me when I say it left many a travelling Swans fan angry, not to say many who could not attend and watched it on TV


Totally agree that this is the viewpoint of the majority, it could never be classed as fact either way, this is just twisting things to suit a personal agenda. Opinion is opinion nether side are right or wrong. As some dispute this they could put a poll on here to judge peoples opinion. There is no point you doing it as they would only say you are loading the poll to get the result you want. If they are that confident let them ask the question.
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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 09:14 - May 28 with 508 viewsonehunglow

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 21:02 - May 27 by Dr_Parnassus

Not arrogant, just right.

Whether you feel that way is irrelevant. We were underdogs and expectedly lost, I understand you wanted to win but I’m afraid it’s tough. That’s life.

I wanted to win the FA Cup this year, but it would be awfully silly to say we bottled it or blew it.

If losing a game means you bottle something then we bottle more games under Martin than I can remember before.

Thankfully it doesn’t mean that and the rest of us can remain sensible.


No,wrong
It seems to befall to me,as the site's No 1 poster,to inform you that losing a playoff when ahead and against 10 men is BLOWING IT.

Cooper blew it,lose it,copped out,froze, choked.

It's possible his countenance alone might have seen his players freeze though. Imagine that gob of his in that scruffy hoodie of his bearing down on you.

You are wrong to pine for Cooper as you are to fail to understand your fetid remarks on Gun Culture in USA.

Now,you have to look in the mirror and reset.

We're all friends on here and we all get it wrong sometimes,as you have.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 09:14 - May 28 by onehunglow

No,wrong
It seems to befall to me,as the site's No 1 poster,to inform you that losing a playoff when ahead and against 10 men is BLOWING IT.

Cooper blew it,lose it,copped out,froze, choked.

It's possible his countenance alone might have seen his players freeze though. Imagine that gob of his in that scruffy hoodie of his bearing down on you.

You are wrong to pine for Cooper as you are to fail to understand your fetid remarks on Gun Culture in USA.

Now,you have to look in the mirror and reset.

We're all friends on here and we all get it wrong sometimes,as you have.


An honest post from the heart. Proving that there is no gang culture when opinions differ.
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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 09:18 - May 28 by Whiterockin

An honest post from the heart. Proving that there is no gang culture when opinions differ.


Whitey.
I’m not bothered if and when I get anything wrong.
One only learns from mistakes

I’ve forgotten what this thread was about now

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 11:00 - May 28 with 459 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 09:14 - May 28 by onehunglow

No,wrong
It seems to befall to me,as the site's No 1 poster,to inform you that losing a playoff when ahead and against 10 men is BLOWING IT.

Cooper blew it,lose it,copped out,froze, choked.

It's possible his countenance alone might have seen his players freeze though. Imagine that gob of his in that scruffy hoodie of his bearing down on you.

You are wrong to pine for Cooper as you are to fail to understand your fetid remarks on Gun Culture in USA.

Now,you have to look in the mirror and reset.

We're all friends on here and we all get it wrong sometimes,as you have.


I’m absolutely correct. You appear to be completely incorrect though.

What game are you referring to? We were never ahead and it was us that had 10 men, not them.

They were given a penalty early on, then we had a man sent off - against the better team when we were massive underdogs anyway. We blew nothing, we expectedly lost.

No wonder you are annoyed, you appear to have dreamed that match

As for the gun threads, I’m spot on. You clearly don’t understand what it is you are suggesting happen. Hence why you won’t explain what you are proposing, how it would work and what the effect would be.

Now tell us more about this dream…
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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 11:06 - May 28 with 454 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 09:18 - May 28 by Whiterockin

An honest post from the heart. Proving that there is no gang culture when opinions differ.


You believe it’s honest that we had the lead against 10 men?

What on earth were you people watching then?

Bizarre.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 11:46 - May 28 with 446 viewsonehunglow

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 11:00 - May 28 by Dr_Parnassus

I’m absolutely correct. You appear to be completely incorrect though.

What game are you referring to? We were never ahead and it was us that had 10 men, not them.

They were given a penalty early on, then we had a man sent off - against the better team when we were massive underdogs anyway. We blew nothing, we expectedly lost.

No wonder you are annoyed, you appear to have dreamed that match

As for the gun threads, I’m spot on. You clearly don’t understand what it is you are suggesting happen. Hence why you won’t explain what you are proposing, how it would work and what the effect would be.

Now tell us more about this dream…
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You be picked the wrong fella to try to patronise ,butt.
You haven’t any idea as to what goes through my mind.
I might be posting a load of Horlicks which makes your retorts vacuous .

I’m really not one to ever justify that which I post to anyone . I’ve trod my own path for a good 15 years on this site and it’s previous incarnation and nobody ,including you,has managed to work me out,so you are deluded Sir . 100% wrong ,as was Cooper.

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The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 11:51 - May 28 with 440 viewsDr_Parnassus

The £4 Million Team v The Minus £2 Million Pound Team on 11:46 - May 28 by onehunglow

You be picked the wrong fella to try to patronise ,butt.
You haven’t any idea as to what goes through my mind.
I might be posting a load of Horlicks which makes your retorts vacuous .

I’m really not one to ever justify that which I post to anyone . I’ve trod my own path for a good 15 years on this site and it’s previous incarnation and nobody ,including you,has managed to work me out,so you are deluded Sir . 100% wrong ,as was Cooper.


So you are sticking with your view that we were winning and were up against 10 men?

It’s ok to admit you were wrong you know chap, your nonsense doesn’t wash with me as you know. Cut it out.

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