| 125 years ago 10:47 - Jul 30 with 1026 views | CountyJim |
Was the last time we had such a dry spell according to the media yesterday so my question is isn't this just a natural thing that happens now and then |  | | |  |
| 125 years ago on 11:14 - Jul 30 with 1003 views | CountyJim |
Exactly I don't think we should beat ourselves up so much these things happen in nature
Of course we should cut our plastic use that it is fact | | | |
| 125 years ago on 11:43 - Jul 30 with 988 views | Scotia |
It's too early to be absolutely certain but it probably is down to climate change. |  | | |
| 125 years ago on 12:19 - Jul 30 with 964 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s difficult to call climate change when you’re just looking at a very localised very short term event on a tiny speck of rock in the north atlantic. You have to look at the world as a whole where the trends are undeniable but this doesn’t preclude freak events from happening naturally.
It seems like every bit of warm weather, every bit of cold weather, every bit of wet weather, every bit of dry weather is automatically attributed to climate change by a lazy media desperate for the latest scare story to get clicks and views. And it just gives the worlds governments a convenient excuse to tax us more. Or worse make us feel like we are absolute scum for having the cheek to heat our homes or drive to work.
Meanwhile our exalted leaders are currently flying frantically around the Middle East in their private jets and helicopters with their huge entourage before falling to their knees mouth agape and drooling in a desperate attempt to fellate any sultan or oil baron that is willing to sell us more fossil fuel. |  |
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| 125 years ago on 12:43 - Jul 30 with 941 views | Flashberryjack |
Acid rain, hole in the ozone, global warming, climate change.
Scientists aren't always right. |  |
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| 125 years ago on 12:45 - Jul 30 with 935 views | felixstowe_jack |
So far this year England has has 50% more rain than in the drought of 1976. In 1976 the rains did not arrive until September. Fortunately this year our reservoirs are a lot fuller than in 1976, following a dry autumn and early Winter of 1975.
Hopefully we will not be needing standpipes and water tankers this year | |
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| 125 years ago on 12:45 - Jul 30 with 934 views | onehunglow |
| 125 years ago on 12:43 - Jul 30 by Flashberryjack |
Acid rain, hole in the ozone, global warming, climate change.
Scientists aren't always right. |
The world has always evolved and always will until the Lord comes back and it is destroyed | |
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| 125 years ago on 12:48 - Jul 30 with 931 views | 73__73 |
It’s been raining most of the morning and it was raining for a few days last week.
Dry spell - it’s called summer time. | |
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| 125 years ago on 13:19 - Jul 30 with 917 views | CountyJim |
| 125 years ago on 12:48 - Jul 30 by 73__73 |
It’s been raining most of the morning and it was raining for a few days last week.
Dry spell - it’s called summer time. |
With you on this one
I've noticed the blackberries and red berries have been out super early this year going picking tomorrow | | | |
| 125 years ago on 13:35 - Jul 30 with 902 views | Catullus |
| 125 years ago on 12:19 - Jul 30 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s difficult to call climate change when you’re just looking at a very localised very short term event on a tiny speck of rock in the north atlantic. You have to look at the world as a whole where the trends are undeniable but this doesn’t preclude freak events from happening naturally.
It seems like every bit of warm weather, every bit of cold weather, every bit of wet weather, every bit of dry weather is automatically attributed to climate change by a lazy media desperate for the latest scare story to get clicks and views. And it just gives the worlds governments a convenient excuse to tax us more. Or worse make us feel like we are absolute scum for having the cheek to heat our homes or drive to work.
Meanwhile our exalted leaders are currently flying frantically around the Middle East in their private jets and helicopters with their huge entourage before falling to their knees mouth agape and drooling in a desperate attempt to fellate any sultan or oil baron that is willing to sell us more fossil fuel. |
I keep saying it, I am more concerned by habitat destruction and the amount of actual physical pollution we can see than the CO2/warming theories.
Go down the beach and see what's washed up, take a binn bag in your local park and see how much you can collect, heck just take a bin bag down your own road and see how much you get.
As a race humanity are stinking and selfish. | |
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| 125 years ago on 13:40 - Jul 30 with 899 views | swan65split |
Unsure on this TBH, I remember hot and not so hot summers, one when I was about 14 seemed to be rain or drizzle day in day out.
I live in PT , and have witnessed some hard frosts, and even puddles in the works stock yards frozen, and the main road from J40 to Talbot rd like an ice rink, not so for quite a few years now.
I watch a few channels on you tube about life in Canada and Alaska, Theyve had a few fierce and sudden storms lately, that even they say they haven't witnessed before..
Me its not the climate I am worried about at present, its Putin and our new leader I"d be more concerned about. Europes maybe on the verge of a storm. |  | | |
| 125 years ago on 14:15 - Jul 30 with 885 views | Scotia |
The kind of thinking in this thread is clearly "shifting baseline theory" it's natural behaviour but dangerous.
It's basically comparing the current situation to our personal life experience. There is more litter, there are less fish in the sea than when we were kids. We can see that. There used to be an excellent Cod fishery in Swansea bay. Now there are very few to catch.
We're generally blind to problems that haven't got noticeably worse in 70 years but could still be catastrophically worse than they were 300 years ago.
A child born in the 2000's won't notice a decline that has already happened - such as Cod population in the Bristol Channel.
You need to look at climate change in terms of thousands of years. And potentially millions of years to fully understand it.
Climate change is caused by gases like Co2 and methane. We're emitting them and therefore causing the climate to change. Climate change causes mass extinctions.
It is possible that the largest mass extinction ever (permian) was caused by volcanic eruptions in Siberia burning underground coal seems. Exactly what we're doing on a larger scale.
That resulted in the Earth's temperature rising to 6 degrees warmer than present in a million years. 1000000 years. We're set to see that rise in about 1000 years. | | | |
| 125 years ago on 15:22 - Jul 30 with 844 views | Catullus |
| 125 years ago on 14:15 - Jul 30 by Scotia |
The kind of thinking in this thread is clearly "shifting baseline theory" it's natural behaviour but dangerous.
It's basically comparing the current situation to our personal life experience. There is more litter, there are less fish in the sea than when we were kids. We can see that. There used to be an excellent Cod fishery in Swansea bay. Now there are very few to catch.
We're generally blind to problems that haven't got noticeably worse in 70 years but could still be catastrophically worse than they were 300 years ago.
A child born in the 2000's won't notice a decline that has already happened - such as Cod population in the Bristol Channel.
You need to look at climate change in terms of thousands of years. And potentially millions of years to fully understand it.
Climate change is caused by gases like Co2 and methane. We're emitting them and therefore causing the climate to change. Climate change causes mass extinctions.
It is possible that the largest mass extinction ever (permian) was caused by volcanic eruptions in Siberia burning underground coal seems. Exactly what we're doing on a larger scale.
That resulted in the Earth's temperature rising to 6 degrees warmer than present in a million years. 1000000 years. We're set to see that rise in about 1000 years. |
OK, Scotia, I'm willing to listen but I have some questions.
1, What are the CO2 levels now?
2, What were the CO2 levels that caused the Permian extinctions?
3, By current rising levels when will we hit the extinction level of Co2?
4, Is the problem really rising CO2 or is it that we are killing the seas and deforesting the lands so natures ability to absorb CO2 is shrinking?
I guess the final point is a bit doomladen, a bit of surrender monkey thinking BUT why should the UK suffer the higher prices, the higher taxes, wy do we do all the things that need doing when in the grand scheme of things what we do amounts to very little...not even that much? Its like me going and taking a leak on the California wild fires and hoping to stop them. Or even like using a thimble to try and "bale out" the Kentucky floods.
If the whole world isn't in on this and doing what nneds to be done, we are pissing in the wind. | |
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| 125 years ago on 18:27 - Jul 30 with 804 views | Jack123 |
The media are talking out of their backside, late July and it's peeing down, rain forecast up till Tuesday.
That's me speaking from someone who lives in Swansea. I know the SE of England are talking hosepipe bans, , perhaps it's my misconception but when I was a child, summer meant summer. |  |
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| 125 years ago on 18:50 - Jul 30 with 790 views | Scotia |
| 125 years ago on 15:22 - Jul 30 by Catullus |
OK, Scotia, I'm willing to listen but I have some questions.
1, What are the CO2 levels now?
2, What were the CO2 levels that caused the Permian extinctions?
3, By current rising levels when will we hit the extinction level of Co2?
4, Is the problem really rising CO2 or is it that we are killing the seas and deforesting the lands so natures ability to absorb CO2 is shrinking?
I guess the final point is a bit doomladen, a bit of surrender monkey thinking BUT why should the UK suffer the higher prices, the higher taxes, wy do we do all the things that need doing when in the grand scheme of things what we do amounts to very little...not even that much? Its like me going and taking a leak on the California wild fires and hoping to stop them. Or even like using a thimble to try and "bale out" the Kentucky floods.
If the whole world isn't in on this and doing what nneds to be done, we are pissing in the wind. |
Absolutely fair questions Cat. I'll get back to you on the specifics as I'm sitting in front of children's entertainment in an Ibizan all inclusive hotel at present. This is a welcome distraction!
But on question 4, it's both. Plus that we're deforesting, and using that deforested land that can no longer be used to absorb co2 for activities that emit more greenhouse gases. Such as beef farming and rice paddy fields. Its a very vicious circle.
And the last paragraph I'm completely with you. The UK is going above and beyond to do it's bit. Much of the rest of the world isn't, especially China, India, The US and Russia. Our sacrifices are basically a fart in a hurricane.
We're trying to be world leaders in tackling climate change but we aren't big enough. | | | |
| 125 years ago on 21:19 - Jul 30 with 753 views | Catullus |
| 125 years ago on 18:50 - Jul 30 by Scotia |
Absolutely fair questions Cat. I'll get back to you on the specifics as I'm sitting in front of children's entertainment in an Ibizan all inclusive hotel at present. This is a welcome distraction!
But on question 4, it's both. Plus that we're deforesting, and using that deforested land that can no longer be used to absorb co2 for activities that emit more greenhouse gases. Such as beef farming and rice paddy fields. Its a very vicious circle.
And the last paragraph I'm completely with you. The UK is going above and beyond to do it's bit. Much of the rest of the world isn't, especially China, India, The US and Russia. Our sacrifices are basically a fart in a hurricane.
We're trying to be world leaders in tackling climate change but we aren't big enough. |
Go and enjoy your holiday mun, the silliness on here (including me) can wait. | |
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