| The murder of Wendy Buckney 17:26 - Sep 9 with 3160 views | Dr_Winston |
Was told a week or so ago that the man responsible had been released from prison after serving a sentence for two other murders. Now he's been named it's apparently true. How the hell can you ever get out of prison after multiple murder?
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 18:17 - Sep 9 with 3103 views | SgorioFruit |
because the world has gone mad. Well Britain has anyway.
imagine having this guy living next door to you and your family. Mental.
life should mean life. |  |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 18:40 - Sep 9 with 3083 views | Thrasher6 |
A walking timebomb...but hey....let him out. Nothing will happen.. |  |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 19:38 - Sep 9 with 3031 views | onehunglow |
It’s not t he first and it won’t be the last.
Jon might be able to articulate the rights of prisoners ,including murderers ,better than me..
Personally,animals like this should be put to sleep.
Nobody should be at risk from a convicted murderer .Ever.Under anycircumstances |  |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 19:48 - Sep 9 with 3026 views | raynor94 |
3 strikes and out? |  |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 19:49 - Sep 9 with 3026 views | Catullus |
The authorities keep on doing this, releasing people who they say aren't dangerous but nobody is surprised when they are wrong. Murderers, rapists, people with mental health problems.
The problem is they do everything on the cheap. | |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 19:54 - Sep 9 with 3013 views | onehunglow |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 19:49 - Sep 9 by Catullus |
The authorities keep on doing this, releasing people who they say aren't dangerous but nobody is surprised when they are wrong. Murderers, rapists, people with mental health problems.
The problem is they do everything on the cheap. |
I’ve had this debate before.
I do not believe murderers should be let out Ever.
Capital Punishment was abolished. By MPs believing that the sentence would be LIFE .
They were conned
Nobody not one soul should be at risk and no parole board can be satisfied beyond reasonable doubt ,so to speak. | |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 07:11 - Sep 10 with 2899 views | YrAlarch |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 19:54 - Sep 9 by onehunglow |
I’ve had this debate before.
I do not believe murderers should be let out Ever.
Capital Punishment was abolished. By MPs believing that the sentence would be LIFE .
They were conned
Nobody not one soul should be at risk and no parole board can be satisfied beyond reasonable doubt ,so to speak. |
In the USA one optional sentence is 'Life without parole'. I don't see why that sentence could not be adopted in this country. That would prevent some of the ludicrous decisions of the Parole Board. | | | |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 07:15 - Sep 10 with 2896 views | PawelAbbott |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 07:11 - Sep 10 by YrAlarch |
In the USA one optional sentence is 'Life without parole'. I don't see why that sentence could not be adopted in this country. That would prevent some of the ludicrous decisions of the Parole Board. |
That's called a Whole Life Order.
There are multiple people in this country on them, including Levi Bellfield and Wayne Couzens | | | |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 07:25 - Sep 10 with 2882 views | trampie |
Is there a case to blame the parents in lots of cases, should the parents of murderers and criminals be locked up if it can be proved they didn't bring their children up correctly ?
Is that too 'out of the box' thinking for our resident barrister I wonder ? |  |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 08:31 - Sep 10 with 2846 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 07:25 - Sep 10 by trampie |
Is there a case to blame the parents in lots of cases, should the parents of murderers and criminals be locked up if it can be proved they didn't bring their children up correctly ?
Is that too 'out of the box' thinking for our resident barrister I wonder ? |
For whatever reasons a fair number of people see very little of their adult children.
So no, not an option that makes much sense to me.
Best way out of crime for many is often work.
Without meanngful work …. well, the devil can make work for idle hands etc … |  |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 09:14 - Sep 10 with 2805 views | trampie |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 08:31 - Sep 10 by Kilkennyjack |
For whatever reasons a fair number of people see very little of their adult children.
So no, not an option that makes much sense to me.
Best way out of crime for many is often work.
Without meanngful work …. well, the devil can make work for idle hands etc … |
Virtually all the cases I remember etc the killers were themselves victims in many ways in their childhood, I can't be arsed to check but didnt Hindley/Brady, the West's, the Bulger killers etc all have poor upbringing.
It's a bit left field but the parents of the killers in some circumstances can be the root cause of it all. | |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 09:15 - Sep 10 with 2809 views | YrAlarch |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 07:15 - Sep 10 by PawelAbbott |
That's called a Whole Life Order.
There are multiple people in this country on them, including Levi Bellfield and Wayne Couzens |
I accept that by it's not used enough, probably because the conditions for it's imposition are too narrow in my opinion. | | | |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 09:59 - Sep 10 with 2780 views | onehunglow |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 07:15 - Sep 10 by PawelAbbott |
That's called a Whole Life Order.
There are multiple people in this country on them, including Levi Bellfield and Wayne Couzens |
But you miss the point.
With respect,LIFE should mean LIFE for murder.ANY murder.
This is why hanging was abolished when it was as MP would not have voted for it in a majority. | |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 11:38 - Sep 10 with 2731 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 18:17 - Sep 9 by SgorioFruit |
because the world has gone mad. Well Britain has anyway.
imagine having this guy living next door to you and your family. Mental.
life should mean life. |
Take the drug addicts out of jail into proper rehab facilities, cure them and retrain them for a successful reintegration into society for as many as possible. Would cut petty crime and mugging and leave space for people who deserve life to actually get life. |  |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 11:45 - Sep 10 with 2730 views | Dr_Winston |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 11:38 - Sep 10 by Brynmill_Jack |
Take the drug addicts out of jail into proper rehab facilities, cure them and retrain them for a successful reintegration into society for as many as possible. Would cut petty crime and mugging and leave space for people who deserve life to actually get life. |
For first or second offences sure. There's not enough help for "new" addicts, and support is better than imprisonment. legalisation will go a long way here also.
Unfortunately the vast majority of the nuisance, anti social or acquisitive crime that blights the lives of so many is usually committed by hardened addicts who have been through support many times and have no real interest in leading respectable, contributary lifestyles, so the only real answer is to lock them away from society. [Post edited 10 Sep 2022 11:48]
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 12:21 - Sep 10 with 2696 views | onehunglow |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 11:38 - Sep 10 by Brynmill_Jack |
Take the drug addicts out of jail into proper rehab facilities, cure them and retrain them for a successful reintegration into society for as many as possible. Would cut petty crime and mugging and leave space for people who deserve life to actually get life. |
Petty crime often isnt.
A burglary on some elderly home stealing the contents of a pyss pot is more profound than high value items owned by those who will be insured .
Every crime affects..every crime personal | |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 12:26 - Sep 10 with 2691 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 09:14 - Sep 10 by trampie |
Virtually all the cases I remember etc the killers were themselves victims in many ways in their childhood, I can't be arsed to check but didnt Hindley/Brady, the West's, the Bulger killers etc all have poor upbringing.
It's a bit left field but the parents of the killers in some circumstances can be the root cause of it all. |
There are millions who have poor upbringings and dodgy parents and don’t grow up to be serial killers and child murderers. It’s an easy cop out to blame everything on the parents and the childhood. Takes any responsibility away from the individuals committing these vile acts. |  |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 12:47 - Sep 10 with 2669 views | trampie |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 12:26 - Sep 10 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
There are millions who have poor upbringings and dodgy parents and don’t grow up to be serial killers and child murderers. It’s an easy cop out to blame everything on the parents and the childhood. Takes any responsibility away from the individuals committing these vile acts. |
There is more to it than that, if the chances of somebody being a baddie was 1 in 100 across the board then ok but the chances of been a baddie is increased ten fold/hundred fold etc if they themselves had bad parents. | |
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| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 10:15 - Sep 12 with 2499 views | controversial_jack |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 12:26 - Sep 10 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
There are millions who have poor upbringings and dodgy parents and don’t grow up to be serial killers and child murderers. It’s an easy cop out to blame everything on the parents and the childhood. Takes any responsibility away from the individuals committing these vile acts. |
It's doubtful there are any addicts out there who haven't had some kind of bad past experience that they try to escape from, | | | |
| The murder of Wendy Buckney on 11:46 - Sep 12 with 2467 views | onehunglow |
The Rich are also not immune from the temptations of crime | |
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