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Police officers stabbed in London 15:32 - Sep 16 with 3468 viewsKeithHaynes


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Police officers stabbed in London on 12:31 - Sep 22 with 761 viewsDr_Winston


Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Police officers stabbed in London on 13:25 - Sep 22 with 708 viewsonehunglow

Police officers stabbed in London on 12:31 - Sep 22 by Dr_Winston



Thanks for posting that W

Previous for
Firearms
Refusal to stop
Ramming vehicles

Justifiably dispatched

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Police officers stabbed in London on 15:15 - Sep 22 with 688 viewsDr_Winston

Police officers stabbed in London on 13:25 - Sep 22 by onehunglow

Thanks for posting that W

Previous for
Firearms
Refusal to stop
Ramming vehicles

Justifiably dispatched


The previous is not a reason in and of itself.

That the family have seen the footage and are actively de-escalating their reaction to the incident suggests that the shooting was entirely justified.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Police officers stabbed in London on 15:38 - Sep 22 with 664 viewsonehunglow

Police officers stabbed in London on 15:15 - Sep 22 by Dr_Winston

The previous is not a reason in and of itself.

That the family have seen the footage and are actively de-escalating their reaction to the incident suggests that the shooting was entirely justified.


What it does do however is raise the possible threat level I’ve been in that position many times .you are spot on

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Police officers stabbed in London on 21:14 - Sep 22 with 612 viewsLohengrin

Police officers stabbed in London on 15:15 - Sep 22 by Dr_Winston

The previous is not a reason in and of itself.

That the family have seen the footage and are actively de-escalating their reaction to the incident suggests that the shooting was entirely justified.


It doesn’t so much suggest it as proclaim it, Doc.

Mayor Khan along with the politicised creatures at the top of The Met were positively clambering over each other in the rush to be the first to announce the officer had been suspended. They should be ashamed, but that’s a human emotion that denotes decency, I doubt they have a shred of it between them.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Police officers stabbed in London on 21:22 - Sep 22 with 608 viewsonehunglow

Police officers stabbed in London on 21:14 - Sep 22 by Lohengrin

It doesn’t so much suggest it as proclaim it, Doc.

Mayor Khan along with the politicised creatures at the top of The Met were positively clambering over each other in the rush to be the first to announce the officer had been suspended. They should be ashamed, but that’s a human emotion that denotes decency, I doubt they have a shred of it between them.


Loh.
I can go back longer than most
In 81 ,I was barely out of my probationary period and the outcry from the Left was appalling.
Times were rough and industry imploding

In a way,isn’t that time,it was actually quite exciting going out in the Bull barred carrier as we honestly thought this was a civil war starting and we could simply do what was necessary to get home . I was there the first night and was out for 15 hours solid .

We were battered bruised and bloodied and Liverpool s very own Police Authority leader blamed Police for it all. She hated the Police ,as do many

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Police officers stabbed in London on 21:27 - Sep 22 with 603 viewsLohengrin

Police officers stabbed in London on 21:22 - Sep 22 by onehunglow

Loh.
I can go back longer than most
In 81 ,I was barely out of my probationary period and the outcry from the Left was appalling.
Times were rough and industry imploding

In a way,isn’t that time,it was actually quite exciting going out in the Bull barred carrier as we honestly thought this was a civil war starting and we could simply do what was necessary to get home . I was there the first night and was out for 15 hours solid .

We were battered bruised and bloodied and Liverpool s very own Police Authority leader blamed Police for it all. She hated the Police ,as do many


Didn’t Ken Oxford try to back away and leave his officers in the shit after Toxteth?

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Police officers stabbed in London on 21:31 - Sep 22 with 598 viewsDr_Winston

Police officers stabbed in London on 21:14 - Sep 22 by Lohengrin

It doesn’t so much suggest it as proclaim it, Doc.

Mayor Khan along with the politicised creatures at the top of The Met were positively clambering over each other in the rush to be the first to announce the officer had been suspended. They should be ashamed, but that’s a human emotion that denotes decency, I doubt they have a shred of it between them.


That the reaction of those who are so close to he-who-must-not-be-named-or-Brynnie-will-be-mad-at-me was to immediately blame the officer involved is telling.

This is not America. I have no doubt that all Armed Police in the UK are extremely reluctant to pull the trigger unless they feel that they have no other choice.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Police officers stabbed in London on 21:39 - Sep 22 with 589 viewsLohengrin

Police officers stabbed in London on 21:31 - Sep 22 by Dr_Winston

That the reaction of those who are so close to he-who-must-not-be-named-or-Brynnie-will-be-mad-at-me was to immediately blame the officer involved is telling.

This is not America. I have no doubt that all Armed Police in the UK are extremely reluctant to pull the trigger unless they feel that they have no other choice.


Telling but hardly surprising, Doc. It’s what you’d expect and exactly what you get.

As to your second point, exactly right.

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Police officers stabbed in London on 21:46 - Sep 22 with 570 viewsDr_Winston

Police officers stabbed in London on 21:39 - Sep 22 by Lohengrin

Telling but hardly surprising, Doc. It’s what you’d expect and exactly what you get.

As to your second point, exactly right.


From a paperwork/procedure angle alone it is no doubt hugely preferable to not shoot anyone if you can possibly help it, never mind the psychological processes involved.

Whilst I don't doubt that there are many people out there with an inflated opinion of their own hardiness when it comes to taking another human life (For me, I believe that I'd cheerfully pull the trigger on people convicted of animal cruelty), when it actually comes down to brass tacks it's a different story.

I have absolute empathy for anyone actually put in that position.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Police officers stabbed in London on 22:19 - Sep 22 with 535 viewsmajorraglan

I don’t blame the family for wanting answers, any of us would if we were in the same position. I can also understand why a large section of the community in London would be up in arms at what’s happened as there’s a deep distrust of the police up there. There has to be transparency.

Public interest is one of the grounds for suspension. After the riots we’ve seen following other high profile incidents involving the police I suspect there was an appetite to try and minimise any potential disorder especially with the Met having to police London following the passing of the Queen. I think these issues may have played a part in decision making.

I’d have thought that as evidence to a possible murder the Top Brass and Sadique Khan wouldn’t have been entitled to access to the camera footage. The murder investigation team would have the footage as would the the IPCC who would have been carrying out their own investigation and no doubt supervising the murder investigation. I suspect the top brass may have had a good understanding of what had taken place even if they didn’t have sight of the footage.

I know there is an investigation to be completed, accounts to be secured etc but its taken the best of 2 weeks to show the family the footage, could a lot of hurt and pain have been spared in doing it earlier?

I feel sorry for the officer, protocol would normally be temporary redeployment to somewhere he/she could be supported, worrying at home is no good for anyone nor is the impact of what’s happened good for the rank and file of policing.
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Police officers stabbed in London on 10:21 - Sep 23 with 467 viewsonehunglow

Police officers stabbed in London on 21:46 - Sep 22 by Dr_Winston

From a paperwork/procedure angle alone it is no doubt hugely preferable to not shoot anyone if you can possibly help it, never mind the psychological processes involved.

Whilst I don't doubt that there are many people out there with an inflated opinion of their own hardiness when it comes to taking another human life (For me, I believe that I'd cheerfully pull the trigger on people convicted of animal cruelty), when it actually comes down to brass tacks it's a different story.

I have absolute empathy for anyone actually put in that position.


Dr W
When a AFO takes this action ,believe me, the first thing the Chief con does is cover himself normally deplying a "spokesman" who will witter on ,disingenuously,about how they empathise with the familiy of the victim/community etc.

Its a thankless job and my son in law packed in his authority quite recently. He would have been sent to London for the funeral as he was sniper trained and hanging around on a tall building for hours on end aint pleasant.

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Police officers stabbed in London on 16:18 - Sep 23 with 445 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Police officers stabbed in London on 21:14 - Sep 22 by Lohengrin

It doesn’t so much suggest it as proclaim it, Doc.

Mayor Khan along with the politicised creatures at the top of The Met were positively clambering over each other in the rush to be the first to announce the officer had been suspended. They should be ashamed, but that’s a human emotion that denotes decency, I doubt they have a shred of it between them.


Khan is an absolute menace no doubt. I said earlier in this thread that he is clearly on the side of the criminals, maybe that was a bit of hyperbole but he has a long record of consistently throwing up barrier after barrier to protect the perpetrators and make the jobs of the rank and file officers as hard as possible to deal with them.

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Police officers stabbed in London on 19:09 - Sep 23 with 415 viewsonehunglow

Police officers stabbed in London on 21:27 - Sep 22 by Lohengrin

Didn’t Ken Oxford try to back away and leave his officers in the shit after Toxteth?


No He was a tough nut who was SIO in the A6 murder I ll do you when I have time

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