| Be honest 21:18 - Nov 12 with 4566 views | builthjack |
If back in August you were told we would be equal 6th going into the World Cup break, would you have been happy?
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| Be honest on 16:37 - Nov 13 with 710 views | onehunglow |
| Be honest on 16:07 - Nov 13 by builthjack |
We should have scored two, could have scored 4 yeasterday. That’s down to the players. |
Coach said we were dominant / brilliant .
That would suggest success of some sort
Coaches improve players to do exactly what yiu say they should and they should |  |
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| Be honest on 16:39 - Nov 13 with 702 views | KeithHaynes |
| Be honest on 16:37 - Nov 13 by onehunglow |
Coach said we were dominant / brilliant .
That would suggest success of some sort
Coaches improve players to do exactly what yiu say they should and they should |
Some of those players aren’t good enough, that’s the issue. |  |
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| Be honest on 16:42 - Nov 13 with 692 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Be honest on 16:37 - Nov 13 by onehunglow |
Coach said we were dominant / brilliant .
That would suggest success of some sort
Coaches improve players to do exactly what yiu say they should and they should |
What would you have him say in a press conference where they ask questions designed to write headlines ? ‘We were rubbish, players aren’t good enough, we need better ones to get where I want to be ‘
These press conferences are meaningless, can never say what he means and what he is saying to the players and owners |  | | |
| Be honest on 16:57 - Nov 13 with 670 views | onehunglow |
| Be honest on 16:39 - Nov 13 by KeithHaynes |
Some of those players aren’t good enough, that’s the issue. |
Does this include player the coach has brought in . | |
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| Be honest on 17:14 - Nov 13 with 659 views | Boundy |
| Be honest on 15:38 - Nov 13 by KeithHaynes |
Worried about being eighth or equal on GD for sixth ? |
If addressed to me apologies if not , I'm not worried there are a lot of teams around us and below who have a lot more to be concerned about. My gripe if you can call it that is we've seen the potential in the squad and knowing that and seeing us drift back into d ways is frustrating, happy to be where we are , frustrated that we're not higher | |
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| Be honest on 18:02 - Nov 13 with 633 views | vetchonian |
| Be honest on 16:42 - Nov 13 by Sirjohnalot |
What would you have him say in a press conference where they ask questions designed to write headlines ? ‘We were rubbish, players aren’t good enough, we need better ones to get where I want to be ‘
These press conferences are meaningless, can never say what he means and what he is saying to the players and owners |
yet in these same presses he has thrown players under the bus....this guy is a fraud | |
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| Be honest on 18:05 - Nov 13 with 629 views | KeithHaynes |
| Be honest on 17:14 - Nov 13 by Boundy |
If addressed to me apologies if not , I'm not worried there are a lot of teams around us and below who have a lot more to be concerned about. My gripe if you can call it that is we've seen the potential in the squad and knowing that and seeing us drift back into d ways is frustrating, happy to be where we are , frustrated that we're not higher |
No not addressed to you, more than likely myself 😂 | |
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| Be honest on 18:12 - Nov 13 with 614 views | magicdaps10 |
| Be honest on 18:02 - Nov 13 by vetchonian |
yet in these same presses he has thrown players under the bus....this guy is a fraud |
Kevin Cullis was a fraud!
Russell Martin is a manager of a team in the championship who are 8th.
Leys not forget, before we let Bennett go, we had the 9th highest wage bill......now its the 17th.
I am very happy with where we are in the league...there is certainly room for improvement I may add also. [Post edited 13 Nov 2022 19:16]
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| Be honest on 18:34 - Nov 13 with 592 views | onehunglow |
| Be honest on 16:42 - Nov 13 by Sirjohnalot |
What would you have him say in a press conference where they ask questions designed to write headlines ? ‘We were rubbish, players aren’t good enough, we need better ones to get where I want to be ‘
These press conferences are meaningless, can never say what he means and what he is saying to the players and owners |
I d rather him not say anything ,frankly. | |
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| Be honest on 18:34 - Nov 13 with 593 views | KeithHaynes |
| Be honest on 18:12 - Nov 13 by magicdaps10 |
Kevin Cullis was a fraud!
Russell Martin is a manager of a team in the championship who are 8th.
Leys not forget, before we let Bennett go, we had the 9th highest wage bill......now its the 17th.
I am very happy with where we are in the league...there is certainly room for improvement I may add also. [Post edited 13 Nov 2022 19:16]
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| Be honest on 19:33 - Nov 13 with 569 views | Dr_Winston |
Context is everything.
If we were told that we'd be equal sixth having worked and battled hard for every point in a competitive division then most people would bite your hands off for that.
If were told that we'd be equal sixth but could have been second if we hadn't spaffed away so many points by being weaker defensively than France in 1940 or frightened to actually attack at pace then less so. |  |
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| Be honest on 19:44 - Nov 13 with 561 views | onehunglow |
| Be honest on 19:33 - Nov 13 by Dr_Winston |
Context is everything.
If we were told that we'd be equal sixth having worked and battled hard for every point in a competitive division then most people would bite your hands off for that.
If were told that we'd be equal sixth but could have been second if we hadn't spaffed away so many points by being weaker defensively than France in 1940 or frightened to actually attack at pace then less so. |
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| Be honest on 20:10 - Nov 13 with 553 views | jack247 |
| Be honest on 19:33 - Nov 13 by Dr_Winston |
Context is everything.
If we were told that we'd be equal sixth having worked and battled hard for every point in a competitive division then most people would bite your hands off for that.
If were told that we'd be equal sixth but could have been second if we hadn't spaffed away so many points by being weaker defensively than France in 1940 or frightened to actually attack at pace then less so. |
The way the Championship has gone so far, there’s probably 7 or 8 teams thinking they’d be right up the top if they’d played that little bit better, been more clinical or had the rub of the green.
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| Be honest on 20:14 - Nov 13 with 550 views | Dr_Winston |
| Be honest on 20:10 - Nov 13 by jack247 |
The way the Championship has gone so far, there’s probably 7 or 8 teams thinking they’d be right up the top if they’d played that little bit better, been more clinical or had the rub of the green.
Crazy season |
Perhaps.
It's the Piroe/Oba thing that's annoying me most of all.
First the attempt to throw MO to the wolves in September despite all the evidence now pointing to him being more than willing to carry on playing (despite which Oba seems remarkably friendly towards Martin) and now the persistent attempts to play Piroe as a lone striker when it's utterly obvious that he can't do it. | |
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| Be honest on 20:19 - Nov 13 with 543 views | mart66 |
| Be honest on 18:12 - Nov 13 by magicdaps10 |
Kevin Cullis was a fraud!
Russell Martin is a manager of a team in the championship who are 8th.
Leys not forget, before we let Bennett go, we had the 9th highest wage bill......now its the 17th.
I am very happy with where we are in the league...there is certainly room for improvement I may add also. [Post edited 13 Nov 2022 19:16]
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Our wage bill is unquestionably top half and probably top 8, which is where we are.
But as others have pointed out, it’s how we got there not where we are. Because that determined where we are likely to go. |  |
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| Be honest on 20:52 - Nov 13 with 529 views | magicdaps10 |
| Be honest on 20:19 - Nov 13 by mart66 |
Our wage bill is unquestionably top half and probably top 8, which is where we are.
But as others have pointed out, it’s how we got there not where we are. Because that determined where we are likely to go. |
It's certainly questionable because we had the 9th highest when we had 25k a week Ryan Bennett on our books, we reduced it by 1.2M a year once he left albeit a % was eaten into with a few low wage signings.
Its a crazy league, a lot of teams will feel they should be higher up the league and there are certainly a lot of 'ifs' with a lot of clubs.
We can certainly improve on things but I think most would have taken 8th going into the WC break. | |
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| Be honest on 21:52 - Nov 13 with 518 views | mart66 |
| Be honest on 20:52 - Nov 13 by magicdaps10 |
It's certainly questionable because we had the 9th highest when we had 25k a week Ryan Bennett on our books, we reduced it by 1.2M a year once he left albeit a % was eaten into with a few low wage signings.
Its a crazy league, a lot of teams will feel they should be higher up the league and there are certainly a lot of 'ifs' with a lot of clubs.
We can certainly improve on things but I think most would have taken 8th going into the WC break. |
We had the 8th highest. We then freed up 20k in salary by releasing Bennet. We then spent that on bringing in 3 players.
We signed Stevens, Oko-Flex and Cundle.
Cundle is on 11k a week, Oko-Flex and Stevens are both on around 5k.
21k. Our wage bill went up, not down. | |
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| Be honest on 22:05 - Nov 13 with 507 views | magicdaps10 |
| Be honest on 21:52 - Nov 13 by mart66 |
We had the 8th highest. We then freed up 20k in salary by releasing Bennet. We then spent that on bringing in 3 players.
We signed Stevens, Oko-Flex and Cundle.
Cundle is on 11k a week, Oko-Flex and Stevens are both on around 5k.
21k. Our wage bill went up, not down. |
I would say that the 3 loans in are most likely earning that but there is no way that we are covering 100% of the 3 players full wages. | |
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| Be honest on 22:11 - Nov 13 with 502 views | mart66 |
| Be honest on 22:05 - Nov 13 by magicdaps10 |
I would say that the 3 loans in are most likely earning that but there is no way that we are covering 100% of the 3 players full wages. |
That’s what tends to happen in loans at this level (full salary coverage), it’s more unlikely we wouldn’t be covering all or most the salary than the opposite being true.
Even if it’s 50% (I’d be pretty certain it’s in the 80%-100% range)… then that is only a 9k saving a week, about 450k over a year. I doubt that would be enough to move us from 8th to 9th in the salary table let alone drop us to 17th.
And I would imagine it was that sort of figure we paid Bennett to cancel his deal here.
Ntcham, Allen, Naughton, Grimes, Oba, Piroe and Darling will be all in the top echelon of earners in this division alone (Premier League legacy contracts elsewhere aside).
Not many clubs in the bottom half could sustain those numbers - but we do. [Post edited 13 Nov 2022 22:25]
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| Be honest on 08:15 - Nov 14 with 435 views | magicdaps10 |
| Be honest on 22:11 - Nov 13 by mart66 |
That’s what tends to happen in loans at this level (full salary coverage), it’s more unlikely we wouldn’t be covering all or most the salary than the opposite being true.
Even if it’s 50% (I’d be pretty certain it’s in the 80%-100% range)… then that is only a 9k saving a week, about 450k over a year. I doubt that would be enough to move us from 8th to 9th in the salary table let alone drop us to 17th.
And I would imagine it was that sort of figure we paid Bennett to cancel his deal here.
Ntcham, Allen, Naughton, Grimes, Oba, Piroe and Darling will be all in the top echelon of earners in this division alone (Premier League legacy contracts elsewhere aside).
Not many clubs in the bottom half could sustain those numbers - but we do. [Post edited 13 Nov 2022 22:25]
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You think we paid Bennett a six figure fee to get him off our books and then went out and spent his wages to cover wages of 3 loan players......or as you stated actually paid a bit more?
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| Be honest on 11:24 - Nov 14 with 399 views | mart66 |
| Be honest on 08:15 - Nov 14 by magicdaps10 |
You think we paid Bennett a six figure fee to get him off our books and then went out and spent his wages to cover wages of 3 loan players......or as you stated actually paid a bit more?
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It’s a certainty, yes.
To free a player from his contract usually involves paying off a large chunk of that cumulative owing. You can then use that money to spend on players that you can actually use.
Bennet doesn’t walk away from a guaranteed 20k a week for the goodness of his own heart. He gets paid maybe half that contract in a lump sum which then gives him the opportunity to find another club, on half as much money or kick back and chill if he is that way inclined. | |
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| Be honest on 11:39 - Nov 14 with 393 views | magicdaps10 |
| Be honest on 11:24 - Nov 14 by mart66 |
It’s a certainty, yes.
To free a player from his contract usually involves paying off a large chunk of that cumulative owing. You can then use that money to spend on players that you can actually use.
Bennet doesn’t walk away from a guaranteed 20k a week for the goodness of his own heart. He gets paid maybe half that contract in a lump sum which then gives him the opportunity to find another club, on half as much money or kick back and chill if he is that way inclined. |
So we were on the poverty line.....we then pay Bennett a handsome 6 figure fee to release him from his contract and in doing so use all his wages to then contribute to paying more in wages for 3 loan players!?
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| Be honest on 12:16 - Nov 14 with 386 views | mart66 |
| Be honest on 11:39 - Nov 14 by magicdaps10 |
So we were on the poverty line.....we then pay Bennett a handsome 6 figure fee to release him from his contract and in doing so use all his wages to then contribute to paying more in wages for 3 loan players!?
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We weren’t on the poverty line. We were in a position where we just couldn’t bring anyone else in without others leaving.
Bennett was on 20k a week and couldn’t be used due to the contract triggering him another year option and another £1m in salary liability.
So instead of having a player take a million off us to do nothing for the year, we essentially swapped him for 3 players we can use over the course of that time.
This is basic stuff, not remotely difficult. | |
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| Be honest on 12:16 - Nov 14 with 385 views | onehunglow |
| Be honest on 11:39 - Nov 14 by magicdaps10 |
So we were on the poverty line.....we then pay Bennett a handsome 6 figure fee to release him from his contract and in doing so use all his wages to then contribute to paying more in wages for 3 loan players!?
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Why release him and bring in Darling
We need a simply stopper CH
It’s the stroking about that Bennett “ failed” . It’s the least important function of a CH | |
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| Be honest on 12:23 - Nov 14 with 379 views | mart66 |
| Be honest on 12:16 - Nov 14 by onehunglow |
Why release him and bring in Darling
We need a simply stopper CH
It’s the stroking about that Bennett “ failed” . It’s the least important function of a CH |
He reached his limit of games with us.
There is a reason he stopped at 49 appearances and then was never given a sniff. He was never playing another game for us whether the manager liked him or not.
Bennett was the roadblock to getting in more bodies. That roadblock was removed by an early lump payment for less than we would have been liable for over the course of that year. That saving was then used to supplement the squad this season.
For all the criticism the Americans take, they aren’t stupid and if it’s one thing they know is business. That decision was basic business. | |
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