| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? 20:03 - Nov 27 with 1496 views | Thrasher6 |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 20:04 - Nov 27 with 1476 views | onehunglow |
Me first
Was a very good player.
Not now
Should never have been brought back
He is exactly the same as Grimes ,only scruffier. He is an international that Grimes will never be
He should not have travelled
He should not have been on the pitch
He is a sentimental subject to post over |  |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 20:20 - Nov 27 with 1467 views | KeithHaynes |
Definitely good enough at full fitness to run our midfield.
He came back when he could have gone elsewhere.
Hartson never even came here at all. |  |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 20:28 - Nov 27 with 1441 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 20:20 - Nov 27 by KeithHaynes |
Definitely good enough at full fitness to run our midfield.
He came back when he could have gone elsewhere.
Hartson never even came here at all. |
Full fitness Keith .
That s the issue here
Him or Grimes but not both | |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 20:30 - Nov 27 with 1445 views | britferry |
to the OP, who wouldn't choose the World Cup? | |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 20:35 - Nov 27 with 1422 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 20:30 - Nov 27 by britferry |
to the OP, who wouldn't choose the World Cup? |
Maybe somebody who had strong views on human rights and didn’t want to traduce them | |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 20:39 - Nov 27 with 1430 views | britferry |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 20:35 - Nov 27 by onehunglow |
Maybe somebody who had strong views on human rights and didn’t want to traduce them |
we're talking about footballers here | |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 22:00 - Nov 27 with 1364 views | builthjack |
He cares. Passionately. |  |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 22:54 - Nov 27 with 1330 views | Kilkennyjack |
He cares for both club and country.
Just like we do. |  |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 06:17 - Nov 28 with 1261 views | Whiterockin |
He cares for both. Don't think he doesn't care for us he wanted to return before but the club messed up. |  | | |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 08:44 - Nov 28 with 1180 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 20:39 - Nov 27 by britferry |
we're talking about footballers here |
Moot point
Professional Footballers care about one thing and one thing only, Money. It’s a job .
Nothing else comes close
[Post edited 28 Nov 2022 8:45]
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 09:14 - Nov 28 with 1156 views | majorraglan |
I think he cares for both.
Family has to come first, Joe Allen has to secure his long term financial stability first and foremost. Once that’s done he can then pick and chooses what he wants to do. If reports are to be believed there were numerous other offers on the table last summer (including one from Stoke) and most of them would probably have been in a position to offer higher wages than Swansea. Coming back to Swansea tells me he loves the club. He’s a passionate Welshman and loves Wales, playing at the WC is a once in a lifetime opportunity so why shouldn’t he try his best to achieve what for most people would be the summit of their professional ambition. | | | |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 09:14 - Nov 28 with 1154 views | union_jack |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 08:44 - Nov 28 by onehunglow |
Moot point
Professional Footballers care about one thing and one thing only, Money. It’s a job .
Nothing else comes close
[Post edited 28 Nov 2022 8:45]
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I don’t agree there R. I think once they are secure it comes down to achievement.
I bet Allen would have sacrificed a whole lotta money to appear in the WC for Wales to be fair.
The problem with him is, as you say his fitness. Back to 100% and he’ll be an asset for the Swans. It’s whether he can get to that level or not is the question. |  |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 10:21 - Nov 28 with 1120 views | lifelong |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 08:44 - Nov 28 by onehunglow |
Moot point
Professional Footballers care about one thing and one thing only, Money. It’s a job .
Nothing else comes close
[Post edited 28 Nov 2022 8:45]
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Nonsense.
Do you think that Bale and Ramsey etc are out in the World Cup for money?
What about the England players? Should they somehow win the World Cup they will be immortalised by the press and public, knighthoods will be handed out like confetti, they will be spoken about for the next 100 years. Lose and they will be forgotten about within 5 years of retiring. |  | | |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 10:35 - Nov 28 with 1115 views | STID2017 |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 09:14 - Nov 28 by majorraglan |
I think he cares for both.
Family has to come first, Joe Allen has to secure his long term financial stability first and foremost. Once that’s done he can then pick and chooses what he wants to do. If reports are to be believed there were numerous other offers on the table last summer (including one from Stoke) and most of them would probably have been in a position to offer higher wages than Swansea. Coming back to Swansea tells me he loves the club. He’s a passionate Welshman and loves Wales, playing at the WC is a once in a lifetime opportunity so why shouldn’t he try his best to achieve what for most people would be the summit of their professional ambition. |
Exactly.
Bale supposedly loved Cardiff and didn't need the money.
Yet he chose fun in the sun in LA and more money.
Bale loves Wales but not Cardiff
Joe loves both |  |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 10:37 - Nov 28 with 1113 views | STID2017 |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 09:14 - Nov 28 by union_jack |
I don’t agree there R. I think once they are secure it comes down to achievement.
I bet Allen would have sacrificed a whole lotta money to appear in the WC for Wales to be fair.
The problem with him is, as you say his fitness. Back to 100% and he’ll be an asset for the Swans. It’s whether he can get to that level or not is the question. |
Even making cameo appearances he will add a lot of value for Swans.
100% would be phenomenal | |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 10:40 - Nov 28 with 1110 views | STID2017 |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 10:21 - Nov 28 by lifelong |
Nonsense.
Do you think that Bale and Ramsey etc are out in the World Cup for money?
What about the England players? Should they somehow win the World Cup they will be immortalised by the press and public, knighthoods will be handed out like confetti, they will be spoken about for the next 100 years. Lose and they will be forgotten about within 5 years of retiring. |
Exactly.
For the 14 current or ex Swans players ( including Roberto Martinez ) at the WC it is the pinnacle of their careers. | |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 13:35 - Nov 28 with 1059 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 10:21 - Nov 28 by lifelong |
Nonsense.
Do you think that Bale and Ramsey etc are out in the World Cup for money?
What about the England players? Should they somehow win the World Cup they will be immortalised by the press and public, knighthoods will be handed out like confetti, they will be spoken about for the next 100 years. Lose and they will be forgotten about within 5 years of retiring. |
What have English players to do this thread .
Obsessed | |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 13:36 - Nov 28 with 1053 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 09:14 - Nov 28 by union_jack |
I don’t agree there R. I think once they are secure it comes down to achievement.
I bet Allen would have sacrificed a whole lotta money to appear in the WC for Wales to be fair.
The problem with him is, as you say his fitness. Back to 100% and he’ll be an asset for the Swans. It’s whether he can get to that level or not is the question. |
That is the way to r change opinions.
The rest of you look and learn
You need to ,clearly. | |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 14:25 - Nov 28 with 1020 views | STID2017 |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 13:35 - Nov 28 by onehunglow |
What have English players to do this thread .
Obsessed |
Think he is saying all players are taking part for the achievement of playing in a WC Finals and potentially for some to claim footballing immortality as winners of the trophy
The last will apply to one team, for the rest it is being able to say they played at a WC Finals. That is same for all nations | |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 14:28 - Nov 28 with 1016 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 14:25 - Nov 28 by STID2017 |
Think he is saying all players are taking part for the achievement of playing in a WC Finals and potentially for some to claim footballing immortality as winners of the trophy
The last will apply to one team, for the rest it is being able to say they played at a WC Finals. That is same for all nations |
Decent reply
Thanks
I stand by every word however | |
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| Joe Allen. Think he cares...for us or Wales? on 14:45 - Nov 28 with 1009 views | onehunglow |
Would be a shame if he were to aggravate it again over there . | |
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