| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February 11:31 - Dec 18 with 5222 views | KeithHaynes |
Under the management of Russell Martin and his coaching staff.
And firmly playing the football we see now but with that extra thing called goals.
Why not ? |  |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 22:22 - Dec 22 with 1021 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 22:11 - Dec 22 by onehunglow |
I’ve stated Russell is the most loved coach we ve had bearing mind his “achievements “ or trophies won.
He has nothing at all to his name |
People get things in their head. It reminds me of when Cardiff signed Gary Medel, he came with a huge reputation, they started calling him “El Pitbull” and started laying the foundations of a myth.
Whenever he had an awful game (of which there were many) it was all of a sudden because the rest of the players weren’t up to his level etc - couldn’t possibly be him of course. His nickname of course should have been “El Poodle” as he was largely ineffective at breaking up play.
People fall in love with myths and ideas and it’s the same with Russell Martin. They love the romantic idea of Swansea playing possession football and being a top club like times gone by. Sadly football has moved on and so have we.
We have seen the myths being built already with regards to him and all the silly stuff being said regarding being a “visionary” etc - those myths are hard for people to put down, there will always be an excuse and a reason to keep them alive rather than face the reality.
The reality is of course that he’s a pretty poor manager, with a very limited tactical brain and believes that his bizarre and ineffective way of playing is an easier route to getting noticed than actually getting good results.
He’s probably right in fairness to him - but that doesn’t help us, quite the opposite. |  |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 22:56 - Dec 22 with 995 views | KeithHaynes |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 22:11 - Dec 22 by onehunglow |
I’ve stated Russell is the most loved coach we ve had bearing mind his “achievements “ or trophies won.
He has nothing at all to his name |
When he started his football career he had not won trophies or had Scottish caps, he got them through progress of his career. If what you are saying is applied to everyone then nobody would ever achieve anything because they would be judged at the start of whatever it is they do. | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 23:17 - Dec 22 with 977 views | STID2017 |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 22:56 - Dec 22 by KeithHaynes |
When he started his football career he had not won trophies or had Scottish caps, he got them through progress of his career. If what you are saying is applied to everyone then nobody would ever achieve anything because they would be judged at the start of whatever it is they do. |
Don't waste time pointing out the bleeding obvious to one who is deaf to any logic in favour of Russell Martin, Keith. |  |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 23:21 - Dec 22 with 973 views | STID2017 |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 22:05 - Dec 22 by Dr_Parnassus |
The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
This is his 4th season of doing exactly the same the thing and not once has it worked. The only times it looked like he may have latched onto something is when he strayed from the 70% possession nonsense.
When we got a decent foothold in the league, he went right back to the old ways - and again the result is exactly the same. No wins in 7, and if that continues for another week or two then we will be 16th or lower in a flash.
But I expect he will ditch the possession stuff again soon, now the pressure is building again. So we can all look forward to another small surge followed by a regression to the ludicrous in the near future. Joy. |
I suggest for a balanced view of why he reverted back his "old ways " you read Richard O's posts.
Now his are an excellent example of a balanced view. | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 06:01 - Dec 23 with 939 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 23:21 - Dec 22 by STID2017 |
I suggest for a balanced view of why he reverted back his "old ways " you read Richard O's posts.
Now his are an excellent example of a balanced view. |
You are confusing balanced for palatable. | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 07:13 - Dec 23 with 941 views | RichardO |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 18:19 - Dec 22 by EagleEye |
Somewhat agree with your views on Manning. When he played on the left side of 3 centre backs (a few times last season) his defence was pretty good. As a wing back his defending is pretty abysmal as he is caught out of position way too often.
With regards the others I am baffled that RM feels that dropping Darling before Wood or Cabango is the way to go. Darling has errors in his game but definitely no worse than Cabango or Wood. He looks a far more assured ball player and defender than the other two. It seems strange that RM made his no 1 target from MKD in front of the likes of O’Reilly (now at Celtic) & Fisher but always seems to drop him first.
As for Latib, he is played out of position, looks totally uncomfortable & ineffective in a wing back role. Naughton is way past his sell by date even in this average Championship squad. OK as a back up for the rest of this season but he should not be starting |
Wasn't a great fan of Manning in a back three would sometime forgets his defensive duties pressing forward when he should have been covering, he has got a goal and an assist in him so as a full back or wingback can still press forward providing his team mates cover his runs forward, but that needs a stable team with players knowing their roles and not being chopped and changed, he is looking a lot better this year at times when team selection is right.
As for Latibeaudie and Naughton both have their uses now as squad players but wouldn't be my number one choice, Latibeaudie has been messed around and played various position can't see him playing in a back three, maybe as a wingback if there is enough pace and movement around him to make the forward pass an easy option for him, think he could play as a right full back but would need help against a fast winger, again down to team selection.
Darling has errors in him as all players do, in three similar instances Darling was out on the wing with an attacker pressing down on him, 1st time he made a mistake but Carbango covered his mistake, 2nd time he made a mistake, no cover we concede a goal, 3rd time he took the learnt best option and put the ball in row Z allowing us to regroup defensively
if we play a back three I would play Darling , Cabango and Wood looking to the future. With a left foot wingback who knows when to help out defensively. [Post edited 23 Dec 2022 8:06]
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 09:19 - Dec 23 with 893 views | RichardO |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 07:13 - Dec 23 by RichardO |
Wasn't a great fan of Manning in a back three would sometime forgets his defensive duties pressing forward when he should have been covering, he has got a goal and an assist in him so as a full back or wingback can still press forward providing his team mates cover his runs forward, but that needs a stable team with players knowing their roles and not being chopped and changed, he is looking a lot better this year at times when team selection is right.
As for Latibeaudie and Naughton both have their uses now as squad players but wouldn't be my number one choice, Latibeaudie has been messed around and played various position can't see him playing in a back three, maybe as a wingback if there is enough pace and movement around him to make the forward pass an easy option for him, think he could play as a right full back but would need help against a fast winger, again down to team selection.
Darling has errors in him as all players do, in three similar instances Darling was out on the wing with an attacker pressing down on him, 1st time he made a mistake but Carbango covered his mistake, 2nd time he made a mistake, no cover we concede a goal, 3rd time he took the learnt best option and put the ball in row Z allowing us to regroup defensively
if we play a back three I would play Darling , Cabango and Wood looking to the future. With a left foot wingback who knows when to help out defensively. [Post edited 23 Dec 2022 8:06]
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Stubby fingers didn't mean to reply to my own post.
Think Martin is seeing the fact that a team needs to be able to defend well but not seeing that of having 6 players who are first and foremost defenders in a team doesn't mean you are going to defend well,.He has tried a number of times to shore up the defence especially away from home but has ended up having to change it as the game goes on to rescue things if able.
Hopefully the penny will drop that starting with a balanced team of players with a wider range of abilities is better than starting with players with the same small range of skills no matter how well they carry out those skills in training. [Post edited 23 Dec 2022 9:40]
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 09:47 - Dec 23 with 864 views | onehunglow |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 23:17 - Dec 22 by STID2017 |
Don't waste time pointing out the bleeding obvious to one who is deaf to any logic in favour of Russell Martin, Keith. |
Don’t interlope between Keith and me please .
If Keith wants to waste time,we can do it together
I spend time pointing out the truth,the absolutely obvious and you fail to see it .
See,ALL opinions | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 09:49 - Dec 23 with 863 views | onehunglow |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 09:19 - Dec 23 by RichardO |
Stubby fingers didn't mean to reply to my own post.
Think Martin is seeing the fact that a team needs to be able to defend well but not seeing that of having 6 players who are first and foremost defenders in a team doesn't mean you are going to defend well,.He has tried a number of times to shore up the defence especially away from home but has ended up having to change it as the game goes on to rescue things if able.
Hopefully the penny will drop that starting with a balanced team of players with a wider range of abilities is better than starting with players with the same small range of skills no matter how well they carry out those skills in training. [Post edited 23 Dec 2022 9:40]
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 20:21 - Dec 23 with 762 views | RichardO |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 09:49 - Dec 23 by onehunglow |
Hopefully |
So you do live in hope? | | | |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 22:55 - Dec 23 with 734 views | STID2017 |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 20:21 - Dec 23 by RichardO |
So you do live in hope? |
Not sure he knows the meaning of it, Rich  | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 23:11 - Dec 23 with 730 views | RichardO |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 22:55 - Dec 23 by STID2017 |
Not sure he knows the meaning of it, Rich |
Now, now play nice. | | | |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 23:31 - Dec 23 with 719 views | STID2017 |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 23:11 - Dec 23 by RichardO |
Now, now play nice. |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 07:04 - Dec 24 with 699 views | builthjack |
If we are top 6 mid Feb, some on here still won't be happy, especially P&P. [Post edited 24 Dec 2022 7:04]
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| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 12:13 - Dec 24 with 645 views | onehunglow |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 22:55 - Dec 23 by STID2017 |
Not sure he knows the meaning of it, Rich |
He can answer for himself STID.
Are you being paid a stipend for all this
You seem driven . Don’t waste time on me.I’m a nobody . Look at POTY,bottom,even beaten by the lovely Lifelong.
Waste your time on our club and wtf is going on,really going on | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 12:14 - Dec 24 with 644 views | onehunglow |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 07:04 - Dec 24 by builthjack |
If we are top 6 mid Feb, some on here still won't be happy, especially P&P. [Post edited 24 Dec 2022 7:04]
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And if we re not ,some will still be happy with whatever dross we watch | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 12:16 - Dec 24 with 639 views | onehunglow |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 20:21 - Dec 23 by RichardO |
So you do live in hope? |
Well,hope is all we have
Nobody not even the STID/Guvna axis can honestly say we are progressing . It can be said but it’s not the truth .
And the truth is always contentious and painful | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 14:33 - Dec 24 with 619 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 12:14 - Dec 24 by onehunglow |
And if we re not ,some will still be happy with whatever dross we watch |
He’s not happy, he’s playing a silly tribal game.
He knows he got it wrong months ago, but no change there.
The timeline keeps getting extended, it was the World Cup break, now I’m seeing mid Feb. Once that comes and goes it will be the end of the season next….
Remember this all started with, “let’s give him 10 games”…. He’s now onto his 75th and nothing has really changed, not even a 0.1 improvement in points each game. | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 14:53 - Dec 24 with 619 views | vetchonian |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 14:33 - Dec 24 by Dr_Parnassus |
He’s not happy, he’s playing a silly tribal game.
He knows he got it wrong months ago, but no change there.
The timeline keeps getting extended, it was the World Cup break, now I’m seeing mid Feb. Once that comes and goes it will be the end of the season next….
Remember this all started with, “let’s give him 10 games”…. He’s now onto his 75th and nothing has really changed, not even a 0.1 improvement in points each game. |
but we have to remember Russ is a young rookie manager still learning | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 16:32 - Dec 24 with 594 views | onehunglow |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 14:33 - Dec 24 by Dr_Parnassus |
He’s not happy, he’s playing a silly tribal game.
He knows he got it wrong months ago, but no change there.
The timeline keeps getting extended, it was the World Cup break, now I’m seeing mid Feb. Once that comes and goes it will be the end of the season next….
Remember this all started with, “let’s give him 10 games”…. He’s now onto his 75th and nothing has really changed, not even a 0.1 improvement in points each game. |
I remember let’s give him 6 months,a season, two seasons ,his contract out and now talk of an extended one .
I was told we were top four and to shut the f up.
Well we ain’t now .
I just hope we stay up . Anyone thinking we can go up with Russ is on planet Zog | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 16:54 - Dec 24 with 578 views | KeithHaynes |
It’s xmas eve, grandkids, kids, family and peace 🙠| |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 09:38 - Dec 26 with 496 views | lifelong |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 12:13 - Dec 24 by onehunglow |
He can answer for himself STID.
Are you being paid a stipend for all this
You seem driven . Don’t waste time on me.I’m a nobody . Look at POTY,bottom,even beaten by the lovely Lifelong.
Waste your time on our club and wtf is going on,really going on |
My arse is still not available.👠|  | | |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 11:01 - Dec 26 with 436 views | onehunglow |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 09:38 - Dec 26 by lifelong |
My arse is still not available.👠|
That s not very nice Rog . | |
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| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 11:19 - Dec 26 with 432 views | lifelong |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 11:01 - Dec 26 by onehunglow |
That s not very nice Rog . |
Odious. | | | |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 11:35 - Dec 26 with 430 views | onehunglow |
| The Swans will be in the top six by mid February on 11:19 - Dec 26 by lifelong |
Odious. |
I wouldn’t use that word to describe the Great one | |
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