34 years 00:16 - Feb 1 with 3404 views | CountyJim | That's how long the police took to say sorry And there's lots of here burying their head's on the police service I just think the whole service needs ripping up and starting again nothing else will do | | | | |
34 years on 00:51 - Feb 1 with 2797 views | britferry | What the police did on that day was a shambles, they were overwhelmed in an antiquated stadium, then again, even in an ultra-modern Wembley just 2 years ago, they lost control in the Euro final too. But what they did afterwards, was a disgrace, trying to blame it all on drunk Liverpool fans. | |
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34 years on 08:48 - Feb 1 with 2755 views | onehunglow |
34 years on 00:51 - Feb 1 by britferry | What the police did on that day was a shambles, they were overwhelmed in an antiquated stadium, then again, even in an ultra-modern Wembley just 2 years ago, they lost control in the Euro final too. But what they did afterwards, was a disgrace, trying to blame it all on drunk Liverpool fans. |
Another one. | |
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34 years on 09:05 - Feb 1 with 2751 views | CountyJim |
34 years on 08:48 - Feb 1 by onehunglow | Another one. |
You completely have no shame do you you just can't admit that the police do wrong | | | |
34 years on 09:28 - Feb 1 with 2741 views | onehunglow |
34 years on 09:05 - Feb 1 by CountyJim | You completely have no shame do you you just can't admit that the police do wrong |
How many more threads I’m not having that btw. DM me . Let’s have it out Do it. Do it now | |
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34 years on 09:41 - Feb 1 with 2728 views | pencoedjack |
34 years on 00:51 - Feb 1 by britferry | What the police did on that day was a shambles, they were overwhelmed in an antiquated stadium, then again, even in an ultra-modern Wembley just 2 years ago, they lost control in the Euro final too. But what they did afterwards, was a disgrace, trying to blame it all on drunk Liverpool fans. |
& there lies the truth. The police were awful but anyone who was following football in the 80's & 90's is fully aware of fans behaviour during that time. Ashamed to say it but at that time at that time getting pi**ed, drugs & a ruck was part of mine & a lot of Swans (& other teams) day out. About time we moved on from the sorry episode. | | | |
34 years on 09:48 - Feb 1 with 2719 views | onehunglow |
34 years on 09:41 - Feb 1 by pencoedjack | & there lies the truth. The police were awful but anyone who was following football in the 80's & 90's is fully aware of fans behaviour during that time. Ashamed to say it but at that time at that time getting pi**ed, drugs & a ruck was part of mine & a lot of Swans (& other teams) day out. About time we moved on from the sorry episode. |
I knew lad who was killed there and. Police colleague of mine was he on the pitch giving CPR . I see this and I’m seething at a poster obsessed with anti police posting . I am not leaving this here . It ain’t on . Fans behaviour at that time was appalling and we all know that . Ours were no different . Hillsboro could have been Ninian park or the the Vetch . Police reflect society as it’s drawn from citizens . If it’s rotten,look at the society we live in . | |
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34 years on 10:27 - Feb 1 with 2707 views | CountyJim |
34 years on 09:41 - Feb 1 by pencoedjack | & there lies the truth. The police were awful but anyone who was following football in the 80's & 90's is fully aware of fans behaviour during that time. Ashamed to say it but at that time at that time getting pi**ed, drugs & a ruck was part of mine & a lot of Swans (& other teams) day out. About time we moved on from the sorry episode. |
Lord Justice Taylor was clear in his interim report that "hooliganism" played no part in the 1989 disaster. On the contrary, it was the fear of hooliganism in police circles that led to "an imbalance between the need to quell a minority of troublemakers and the need to secure the safety and comfort of the majority". Pretty clear that | | | |
34 years on 10:39 - Feb 1 with 2702 views | Plankton |
34 years on 09:28 - Feb 1 by onehunglow | How many more threads I’m not having that btw. DM me . Let’s have it out Do it. Do it now |
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34 years on 10:46 - Feb 1 with 2690 views | Sirjohnalot |
34 years on 09:28 - Feb 1 by onehunglow | How many more threads I’m not having that btw. DM me . Let’s have it out Do it. Do it now |
Jim and OHL. You have both reported each other. You wind each other up, can you both now ignore the poster please ? | | | |
34 years on 10:55 - Feb 1 with 2677 views | CountyJim |
34 years on 10:46 - Feb 1 by Sirjohnalot | Jim and OHL. You have both reported each other. You wind each other up, can you both now ignore the poster please ? |
Hang on a minute I'm not the one making threats I'm just posting completely politely | | | |
34 years on 10:59 - Feb 1 with 2675 views | CountyJim | And what have I been reported for have I broken any forum rules Again I'm not the one making threats | | | |
34 years on 11:32 - Feb 1 with 2652 views | felixstowe_jack |
34 years on 10:59 - Feb 1 by CountyJim | And what have I been reported for have I broken any forum rules Again I'm not the one making threats |
Football fans seemed to have escaped any blame for the disaster. Remember the only reason the steel fences were there in the first place was because of football hooliganism was rampant in the first place. Only a few years previous Liverpool fans rioted at Heysel in 1985. 39 deaths and 600 injuries. 14 Liverpool fans convicted of manslaughter. Also the gates at Hillsborough were opened as Liverpool fans tried to break them down. All this seems to be ignored in Liverpool. The innocent victims were those who arrived early. To judge the police back in 1989 by todays standards where modern stadiums are safe, fans are better behaved and match stewards are now trained is wrong . | |
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34 years on 14:13 - Feb 1 with 2576 views | Sirjohnalot |
34 years on 10:55 - Feb 1 by CountyJim | Hang on a minute I'm not the one making threats I'm just posting completely politely |
Just help us out please and block each other. Thank you Jim, really appreciate it | | | |
34 years on 14:18 - Feb 1 with 2561 views | KeithHaynes |
34 years on 10:59 - Feb 1 by CountyJim | And what have I been reported for have I broken any forum rules Again I'm not the one making threats |
That’s understood but as it stands Jim the site would like you to block him, your help is appreciated. | |
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34 years on 14:23 - Feb 1 with 2550 views | KeithHaynes |
34 years on 11:32 - Feb 1 by felixstowe_jack | Football fans seemed to have escaped any blame for the disaster. Remember the only reason the steel fences were there in the first place was because of football hooliganism was rampant in the first place. Only a few years previous Liverpool fans rioted at Heysel in 1985. 39 deaths and 600 injuries. 14 Liverpool fans convicted of manslaughter. Also the gates at Hillsborough were opened as Liverpool fans tried to break them down. All this seems to be ignored in Liverpool. The innocent victims were those who arrived early. To judge the police back in 1989 by todays standards where modern stadiums are safe, fans are better behaved and match stewards are now trained is wrong . |
I think enough apologies have been made. 65% of the police currently serving weren’t even born in 1989 if the figures are correct which I’m sure they are. | |
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34 years on 14:34 - Feb 1 with 2529 views | raynor94 |
34 years on 10:46 - Feb 1 by Sirjohnalot | Jim and OHL. You have both reported each other. You wind each other up, can you both now ignore the poster please ? |
Jim constantly goads with his Police posts, which are aimed at one poster, he puts it at the end of every post | |
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34 years on 14:41 - Feb 1 with 2523 views | Sirjohnalot |
34 years on 14:34 - Feb 1 by raynor94 | Jim constantly goads with his Police posts, which are aimed at one poster, he puts it at the end of every post |
I'm not going to take sides. I just want to stop squabbling. | | | |
34 years on 16:16 - Feb 1 with 2477 views | felixstowe_jack |
34 years on 14:23 - Feb 1 by KeithHaynes | I think enough apologies have been made. 65% of the police currently serving weren’t even born in 1989 if the figures are correct which I’m sure they are. |
I am sure it is even higher any policeman serving before1989 would have 34 years service and they retire after 30 years service. | |
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34 years on 17:16 - Feb 1 with 2462 views | pencoedjack |
34 years on 14:34 - Feb 1 by raynor94 | Jim constantly goads with his Police posts, which are aimed at one poster, he puts it at the end of every post |
Surprised he hasn't been one tbh. He/a family member has normally done whatever someone posts about. | | | |
34 years on 19:54 - Feb 1 with 2419 views | onehunglow | I reacted which is against the wishes of Keith and John I have no obligation to post or to get angry I understand that I stand by every word As Keith says , actions have consequences For younger ones on here , football fans had legions of thugs salivating over a good Ruck at a town or ground Hillsboro made people think No hooligan firm ever apologised either | |
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34 years on 20:34 - Feb 1 with 2397 views | pencoedjack |
34 years on 10:27 - Feb 1 by CountyJim | Lord Justice Taylor was clear in his interim report that "hooliganism" played no part in the 1989 disaster. On the contrary, it was the fear of hooliganism in police circles that led to "an imbalance between the need to quell a minority of troublemakers and the need to secure the safety and comfort of the majority". Pretty clear that |
You were obviously not following football in the 80s or 90s. | | | |
34 years on 20:57 - Feb 1 with 2382 views | Kilkennyjack |
34 years on 20:34 - Feb 1 by pencoedjack | You were obviously not following football in the 80s or 90s. |
You are not listening to the judge who investigated all the evidence. Sit down. | |
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34 years on 06:36 - Feb 2 with 2331 views | mangohilljack | Plenty of football firms about in the 70/80/90's who liked to cause trouble, by the same token the police loved to have a row aswell and later on were one of the biggest firms in football hooliganism, Stoke home in the early 2000''s was a typical example where meat wagons full of Cardiff coppers were down specifically to have a row with Jacks | | | |
34 years on 09:24 - Feb 2 with 2280 views | lifelong |
34 years on 06:36 - Feb 2 by mangohilljack | Plenty of football firms about in the 70/80/90's who liked to cause trouble, by the same token the police loved to have a row aswell and later on were one of the biggest firms in football hooliganism, Stoke home in the early 2000''s was a typical example where meat wagons full of Cardiff coppers were down specifically to have a row with Jacks |
‘The Police were one of the biggest firms in football hooliganism.’ That’s a cracker fair play. 😄 | | | |
34 years on 09:31 - Feb 2 with 2276 views | CountyJim |
34 years on 20:34 - Feb 1 by pencoedjack | You were obviously not following football in the 80s or 90s. |
I've said before I was a bit of a naughty boy in the 80s but I grew up you don't have to fight to prove something Now listen up winkle just read what the judge says | | | |
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