| France 13:47 - Mar 17 with 4235 views | britferry |
not rugby related this one.
They're not happy, that the age of retirement has been raised from 62 to 64... ah bless them |  |
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| France on 20:22 - Mar 17 with 1044 views | Scotia |
| France on 18:20 - Mar 17 by SullutaCreturned |
When you are getting ripped off left, right and centre by corrupt politicians who are busy lining their friends pockets as well as their own, what are we supposed to do?
Whenever we legally protest these days the government tries to change the rules to make it harder for us, just as they did with recent strike action. Just as they did because of the miners strike.
Our politicians do as they please with nomregard for the peoples wishes so how are we supposed to react? Meekly I guess. |
We need a massive change in our political system.
Proportional representation and a compulsory vote would shake the shower up a bit. | | | |
| France on 22:01 - Mar 17 with 994 views | SullutaCreturned |
| France on 20:22 - Mar 17 by Scotia |
We need a massive change in our political system.
Proportional representation and a compulsory vote would shake the shower up a bit. |
As I have said several times, the people we need to make the changes are the people who have put us in this awful position. They re not going to change anything, nt for the better anyway.
And when labour win the next GE with a massive majority, don't expect any worthwhile reforms from them either. | | | |
| France on 22:03 - Mar 17 with 989 views | Dr_Winston |
Poor Frenchies having to face the reality that living longer means working longer. Ageing populations means having to raise taxes significantly or extending the pension age. There are no other options. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| France on 22:20 - Mar 17 with 981 views | Fireboy2 |
| France on 22:03 - Mar 17 by Dr_Winston |
Poor Frenchies having to face the reality that living longer means working longer. Ageing populations means having to raise taxes significantly or extending the pension age. There are no other options. |
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| France on 22:27 - Mar 17 with 972 views | Dr_Winston |
| France on 22:20 - Mar 17 by Fireboy2 |
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What other options are there then? | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| France on 22:29 - Mar 17 with 973 views | SullutaCreturned |
| France on 22:20 - Mar 17 by Fireboy2 |
Said like a true blue 👠|
He's right though. You either have to save more money or work longer, how else do you pay for a longer retirement?
Other things we should do are, not pay child benefit to the rich. Not charge tax on savings. Nationalise utilities and run them as not for profit.
Slightly more controversial is...dump nuclear weapons and use the money for the NHS. | | | |
| France on 22:34 - Mar 17 with 970 views | Dr_Winston |
| France on 22:29 - Mar 17 by SullutaCreturned |
He's right though. You either have to save more money or work longer, how else do you pay for a longer retirement?
Other things we should do are, not pay child benefit to the rich. Not charge tax on savings. Nationalise utilities and run them as not for profit.
Slightly more controversial is...dump nuclear weapons and use the money for the NHS. |
Most benefits should be means tested and time bound, but I would retain a contribution based option for those who have worked and contributed.
I have no objection in principle to utilities being Government owned (or privately owned really), but massive objections to them being Goverment run. You probably have to have spent some time working for Govt to truly appreciate just how poorly things are run. They should be operated as if the shareholders expect a dividend.
The NHS is an endless black hole. No amount of money will ever be enough in its current guise. Unfortunately any Goverment with the stones to do what is needed will probably lose the next election, so we keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result. [Post edited 17 Mar 2023 22:35]
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| France on 07:49 - Mar 18 with 907 views | Boundy |
But you wanted the country to be subservient during the pandemic and criticised those who weren't ? | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| France on 08:01 - Mar 18 with 906 views | Boundy |
| France on 20:07 - Mar 17 by max936 |
It'll be 70 within 5yrs guaranteed, you had that clown Hunt making a joke saying that even he had to comeback to work after the age of 50, different World different mentality and totally far removed for the rest of society, I'm 62 and retiring at 66 and 10 months according to the DWP, |
The drive currently being taken by the government promoting over 50s to return to work is just the start of smaller but more frequent rises in the pension age .
I've started taking my pension ( I didn't have to ) with he thought that even that paltry amount after 40 years of work belongs to me not them.
MPs pension who serve the average term of 11 years are entitled to 17 k a year ,I had to work for 22 years above that for the same amount | |
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| France on 08:24 - Mar 18 with 902 views | raynor94 |
| France on 07:49 - Mar 18 by Boundy |
But you wanted the country to be subservient during the pandemic and criticised those who weren't ? |
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| France on 08:41 - Mar 18 with 897 views | pencoedjack |
| France on 22:20 - Mar 17 by Fireboy2 |
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But its the truth. |  | | |
| France on 09:30 - Mar 18 with 889 views | Fireboy2 |
| France on 08:41 - Mar 18 by pencoedjack |
But its the truth. |
So how come the french who have a bigger population than us can retire earlier then?
Possibly because they are a fairer nation to their people, they look after their aged population who have paid their dues.
Whereas our lot 🙄 | | | |
| France on 09:40 - Mar 18 with 885 views | Dr_Winston |
| France on 09:30 - Mar 18 by Fireboy2 |
So how come the french who have a bigger population than us can retire earlier then?
Possibly because they are a fairer nation to their people, they look after their aged population who have paid their dues.
Whereas our lot 🙄 |
They can't retire earlier. That's the whole point behind Macron trying to up the age. If they carry on as they are now it'll bankrupt the country.
Look at demographics globally. The Chinese are starting to worry because they have an ageing population, and a declining one. The Japanese are also desperately trying to encourage citizens to have more children. There won't be the worker base or tax base in a couple of decades to sustain millions of retirees.
It's not simply the cost of pensions. It's everything else that goes with an elderly population. Care costs. Medical costs. The lot. [Post edited 18 Mar 2023 9:42]
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| France on 09:54 - Mar 18 with 876 views | Dr_Winston |
Incidentally the German state pension age is 66 rising to 67 within the next ten years. In Italy it's 67, soon to be the same in Holland, 66 in Spain, 65 in Austria, I can go on for Europe. In Australia it's 67, same as the US. 65 in New Zealand.
France is the outlier. They are playing huge catchup with the rest of the industrial world. [Post edited 18 Mar 2023 9:59]
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| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| France on 10:01 - Mar 18 with 866 views | onehunglow |
| France on 09:30 - Mar 18 by Fireboy2 |
So how come the french who have a bigger population than us can retire earlier then?
Possibly because they are a fairer nation to their people, they look after their aged population who have paid their dues.
Whereas our lot 🙄 |
Fairer?
You need to speak to the many in the urban wastelands outside many French cities.
Huge social problems
We are so bad a country,they cram into small lethal boats and cross the busiest shipping channel in the world.
Nobody forces you or anyone to live here . | |
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| France on 10:04 - Mar 18 with 862 views | onehunglow |
| France on 22:34 - Mar 17 by Dr_Winston |
Most benefits should be means tested and time bound, but I would retain a contribution based option for those who have worked and contributed.
I have no objection in principle to utilities being Government owned (or privately owned really), but massive objections to them being Goverment run. You probably have to have spent some time working for Govt to truly appreciate just how poorly things are run. They should be operated as if the shareholders expect a dividend.
The NHS is an endless black hole. No amount of money will ever be enough in its current guise. Unfortunately any Goverment with the stones to do what is needed will probably lose the next election, so we keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result. [Post edited 17 Mar 2023 22:35]
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Have to say that is a brilliant post | |
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| France on 10:45 - Mar 18 with 856 views | controversial_jack |
| France on 10:01 - Mar 18 by onehunglow |
Fairer?
You need to speak to the many in the urban wastelands outside many French cities.
Huge social problems
We are so bad a country,they cram into small lethal boats and cross the busiest shipping channel in the world.
Nobody forces you or anyone to live here . |
France doesn't have the problems we do, despite them taking in 4 times more refugees than we do. Which means far more want to stay there than come here. | | | |
| France on 10:47 - Mar 18 with 859 views | jojaca |
Shouldn't retirement age be getting lower with technological advancements plus we have been through a pandemic and reported excess deaths are higher than normal.
Surely this is an economical model out there were nobody needs to work after 50. I've never understood a system where a 72 year old continues working while an 18 year old is unemployed struggling for decent work. [Post edited 18 Mar 2023 10:48]
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| France on 12:10 - Mar 18 with 842 views | pencoedjack |
| France on 10:01 - Mar 18 by onehunglow |
Fairer?
You need to speak to the many in the urban wastelands outside many French cities.
Huge social problems
We are so bad a country,they cram into small lethal boats and cross the busiest shipping channel in the world.
Nobody forces you or anyone to live here . |
I think you will find there is a sliding scale in France, the more you put it the earlier you can retire & more you get up to 50% of your highest earnings for 25 years.
Sounds fair to me, you? | | | |
| France on 13:31 - Mar 18 with 827 views | onehunglow |
| France on 12:10 - Mar 18 by pencoedjack |
I think you will find there is a sliding scale in France, the more you put it the earlier you can retire & more you get up to 50% of your highest earnings for 25 years.
Sounds fair to me, you? |
Yes,absolutely
People can retire in this country at the same age as others having not worried a day in their lives ,contributing nothing . | |
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| France on 15:05 - Mar 18 with 794 views | SullutaCreturned |
| France on 10:45 - Mar 18 by controversial_jack |
France doesn't have the problems we do, despite them taking in 4 times more refugees than we do. Which means far more want to stay there than come here. |
No of course not. France doesn't have freuent protests which iften turn violent. France doesn't have its roads and ports blocked by angry workers
France didn't have the Gilet jaune protests.
https://www.independent.co.uk/
France dosn't belong to the French apparently...
https://www.westernjournal.com | | | |
| France on 16:38 - Mar 18 with 780 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| France on 09:54 - Mar 18 by Dr_Winston |
Incidentally the German state pension age is 66 rising to 67 within the next ten years. In Italy it's 67, soon to be the same in Holland, 66 in Spain, 65 in Austria, I can go on for Europe. In Australia it's 67, same as the US. 65 in New Zealand.
France is the outlier. They are playing huge catchup with the rest of the industrial world. [Post edited 18 Mar 2023 9:59]
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How many companies will want to employ people in their sixties and seventies? |  |
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| France on 16:45 - Mar 18 with 779 views | SullutaCreturned |
| France on 16:38 - Mar 18 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
How many companies will want to employ people in their sixties and seventies? |
The way it's going...SCFC? | | | |
| France on 18:47 - Mar 18 with 747 views | shingle |
IF you do not fight against the elite they will walk all over you, as soon as they did what they did to our women in regards to the pensions the British public should have been out in there droves protesting just as the French public did last time reforms were attempted to be put in place on them and just as they are out on the streets now fighting for there rights, the British public should be ashamed of themselves for sitting back and doing nothing. | | | |
| France on 19:41 - Mar 18 with 708 views | onehunglow |
| France on 18:47 - Mar 18 by shingle |
IF you do not fight against the elite they will walk all over you, as soon as they did what they did to our women in regards to the pensions the British public should have been out in there droves protesting just as the French public did last time reforms were attempted to be put in place on them and just as they are out on the streets now fighting for there rights, the British public should be ashamed of themselves for sitting back and doing nothing. |
Never describe them as elite
They are no such thing.
They are clever enough to ensure the Plebs perceive them as such .
People need to be smarter . | |
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