| Junior Doctors strike 08:49 - Aug 11 with 5873 views | raynor94 |
Just watching breakfast TV, and they showed a junior doctor's pay slip.
After 6 years of training he's on £14 an hour £2100 a month take home, truly shocking.
No wonder there are so many moving to Australia and NZ. |  |
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| Junior Doctors strike on 15:16 - Aug 24 with 893 views | onehunglow |
| Junior Doctors strike on 08:30 - Aug 24 by Fireboy2 |
Yes pay in the public sector is less and contrary to belief the pensions aren't as gold plated as people think.
The final salary pensions have long gone, there are quite a few recruits don't join the scheme because it isn't worth it and in 30 years time there might not be a pension scheme, I advise new recruits not to join and to buy a house to rent. |
As regards policing, thousands are tumbling out of the job due to lack of funding and politicisation of senior officers .
I struggle to find one CC who truly backs his troops.
The pensions were hammered some years ago although public are blissfully aware .
Fire boy is dead right about not relying on a job pension.
It is shameful |  |
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| Junior Doctors strike on 17:51 - Aug 24 with 846 views | controversial_jack |
| Junior Doctors strike on 14:44 - Aug 24 by majorraglan |
Final salary is also or in some cases been abandoned in the public sector too.
People on here are “bickering” amongst ourselves (myself included) - in reality workers are being short changed on pensions and a raft of other things. Maybe if we could get some of the people who could work, but choose not to and choose to live on benefits instead of contributing to society and working we’d be able to divert some money from unemployment benefit and put it in to pensions and health. |
It's not as simple as that. Many who are working full time, cannot afford to buy or rent property, especially in London or other big cities | | | |
| Junior Doctors strike on 19:06 - Aug 24 with 837 views | Gwyn737 |
| Junior Doctors strike on 17:51 - Aug 24 by controversial_jack |
It's not as simple as that. Many who are working full time, cannot afford to buy or rent property, especially in London or other big cities |
That’s true, but there were 568,000 work visas handed out last year.
Previously we’d have looked at the non-working well but got immigrants to blame these days. [Post edited 24 Aug 2023 19:45]
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| Junior Doctors strike on 19:34 - Aug 24 with 819 views | Fireboy2 |
| Junior Doctors strike on 19:06 - Aug 24 by Gwyn737 |
That’s true, but there were 568,000 work visas handed out last year.
Previously we’d have looked at the non-working well but got immigrants to blame these days. [Post edited 24 Aug 2023 19:45]
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Your last sentence speaks volumes S 👍 |  | | |
| Junior Doctors strike on 22:33 - Aug 24 with 784 views | majorraglan |
| Junior Doctors strike on 19:06 - Aug 24 by Gwyn737 |
That’s true, but there were 568,000 work visas handed out last year.
Previously we’d have looked at the non-working well but got immigrants to blame these days. [Post edited 24 Aug 2023 19:45]
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And herein lies a story many newspapers don’t like telling.
One of the reasons we left the EU was to take control of our borders, but we haven’t and migration is at record levels. We’ve got disputes at ministerial level between those who want to curtail numbers and those who want to maintain the status quo to keep the economy going. We aren’t building enough houses, we aren’t investing in infrastructure like roads, hospitals, water, national grid and when we do invest it’s becomes a cluster ***** and the cost goes off the Richter scale like HS2 and Cross Rail.
We’ve got quite a few people in this country who have done their bit, there’s a cohort who can’t work, then there’s a cohort who’d like to work but are unable to get work and then there’s a cohort who choose not to work but expect the state to subsidise their life style.
We need to help the people who want to work but can’t get a job with training opportunities etc etc and in terms of the latter, I’d introduce work for the dole, 40 hours a week voluntary work etc or serious reductions in benefits etc. | | | |
| Junior Doctors strike on 14:39 - Aug 25 with 749 views | controversial_jack |
| Junior Doctors strike on 22:33 - Aug 24 by majorraglan |
And herein lies a story many newspapers don’t like telling.
One of the reasons we left the EU was to take control of our borders, but we haven’t and migration is at record levels. We’ve got disputes at ministerial level between those who want to curtail numbers and those who want to maintain the status quo to keep the economy going. We aren’t building enough houses, we aren’t investing in infrastructure like roads, hospitals, water, national grid and when we do invest it’s becomes a cluster ***** and the cost goes off the Richter scale like HS2 and Cross Rail.
We’ve got quite a few people in this country who have done their bit, there’s a cohort who can’t work, then there’s a cohort who’d like to work but are unable to get work and then there’s a cohort who choose not to work but expect the state to subsidise their life style.
We need to help the people who want to work but can’t get a job with training opportunities etc etc and in terms of the latter, I’d introduce work for the dole, 40 hours a week voluntary work etc or serious reductions in benefits etc. |
Instead of voluntary work, why not proper training or education? | | | |
| Junior Doctors strike on 17:00 - Aug 25 with 726 views | majorraglan |
| Junior Doctors strike on 14:39 - Aug 25 by controversial_jack |
Instead of voluntary work, why not proper training or education? |
Absolutely,100% agree with you.
Maybe I didn’t articulate myself well enough. When I said the latter, I was referring to the last cohort in the previous paragraph who just don’t want to do anything and expect the state to sustain their existence. | | | |
| Junior Doctors strike on 08:25 - Aug 26 with 701 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Junior Doctors strike on 14:39 - Aug 25 by controversial_jack |
Instead of voluntary work, why not proper training or education? |
Mainly because the majority of those on the dole were offered 12 years of free education which they did not take advantage of when they could be bothered to go to school. Unfortunately parents who are long term unemployed have little interest in sending their children to school and the poverty cycle continues. | |
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| Junior Doctors strike on 08:41 - Aug 26 with 695 views | waynekerr55 |
| Junior Doctors strike on 08:25 - Aug 26 by felixstowe_jack |
Mainly because the majority of those on the dole were offered 12 years of free education which they did not take advantage of when they could be bothered to go to school. Unfortunately parents who are long term unemployed have little interest in sending their children to school and the poverty cycle continues. |
Or maybe, just maybe, policy over the past 20 years has allowed corporate and individuals to avoid paying their fair share of tax.
Tell me, why is it ok for the likes of Baroness Mone and Serco/crapita to sponge of the taxpayer at far greater rates than anyone on benefits?
Plus the education system isn't for for purpose, it's at the whim of ministers who have no understanding of learning. |  |
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| Junior Doctors strike on 13:11 - Aug 26 with 688 views | Gwyn737 |
| Junior Doctors strike on 08:25 - Aug 26 by felixstowe_jack |
Mainly because the majority of those on the dole were offered 12 years of free education which they did not take advantage of when they could be bothered to go to school. Unfortunately parents who are long term unemployed have little interest in sending their children to school and the poverty cycle continues. |
True.
And migrants fill that gap yet still get the blame. | | | |
| Junior Doctors strike on 13:34 - Aug 26 with 685 views | KeithHaynes |
| Junior Doctors strike on 09:47 - Aug 12 by onehunglow |
Agreed
State pension is a disgraceful pittance,modern day alms money given to those who often hardly paid buggervall whilst others did.
Dichotomy alright .
We wouldn’t pay Scandinavian tax rates for full social care no matter what anyone says . |
This is genuine. I know a guy who has not worked for forty years. Last job he did he walked away from. Since then nada. He reckons he will get the full public pension in 18 months time, how does that work ?
I checked mine online and I’m 18 months short due to retirement, my choice I know. But I’ve been offered the opportunity to make it up by paying £900. Something isn’t right. |  |
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| Junior Doctors strike on 14:49 - Aug 26 with 667 views | controversial_jack |
| Junior Doctors strike on 13:34 - Aug 26 by KeithHaynes |
This is genuine. I know a guy who has not worked for forty years. Last job he did he walked away from. Since then nada. He reckons he will get the full public pension in 18 months time, how does that work ?
I checked mine online and I’m 18 months short due to retirement, my choice I know. But I’ve been offered the opportunity to make it up by paying £900. Something isn’t right. |
After tax and any leveling up has ended from any private pension you may have, you will be lucky to see half of that. I'm £400 a month better off after paying in for 45 years | | | |
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