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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread 10:21 - Dec 13 with 8834 viewsModeratorC

The biggest test to date for Alan Sheehan. Win this and win it well, that’s progress and could buy him more time.





Sheehan in with a chance ? Boro preview … 15th Dec 2023 19:36
Swansea City have been preparing since Wednesday afternoon for tomorrow afternoons game at the SwanseaCity.Com Stadium - in amongst all the ‘manager search’ news this week. Middlesbrough are the visitors ( KO 3pm ) 0




Swansea City : This is getting really silly Mr Coleman : Report, Stats & Ratings 16th Dec 2023 17:57
It’s not that Swansea City are bad, but their lack of confidence and decision making at times lost them the game today. A mad moment when a back pass was picked up by Carl Rushworth in the second half cost the Swans the points. 1






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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 18:42 - Dec 16 with 1747 viewsdantheswansman

How we didn't take any of them first 40 minute chances is beyond me, we were by far the better team the entire match but the chances we didn't take cost us
The result in this case means nothing, only Stevie wonder couldn't see how much better we were so the performance wasn't at fault, think Sheehan should have made the subs about 20 minutes earlier and left Walsh on
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:00 - Dec 16 with 1693 viewslifelong

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 17:52 - Dec 16 by onehunglow

Roger.
I’m not blaming him for the defeat today .
I’m blaming him for the way he basically ruins us
Why does he insist of playing centre half
Why slow the game down when we should be speeding it up
Why is his first thought to pass backwards or sideways
Any opposition know he can be pressurised when he will give the ball away or simply lose it, meaning others will have to cover for him.
He is central to our demise
He defines slowness,lethagy,lack of ambition on the pitch . Walsh,in fairness looked way more positive before being taken off. A dumb move by Sheehan ,as was not bringing on Bolasie earlier

Some can’t see it,some won’t
You love him? Many do, some do not. If you look around ,you will see Roger Grimes “haters”


I don’t love Grimes, I think he is a very skilful player though, he plays the way that our previous 4 managers have probably instructed him to. The same 4 managers who have selected him for virtually every game that he has been available.
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:05 - Dec 16 with 1682 viewsshingle

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 16:39 - Dec 16 by hobo

Whatever the end result, very very positive today. Brave, aggressive and forward thinking. Great to see


Oh dear.
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:08 - Dec 16 with 1676 viewsshingle

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 17:32 - Dec 16 by lifelong

How can you blame Grimes for that defeat today?

It was a stupid error by the goalkeeper.


Yep we could have had a home draw instead how exciting would that have been.
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:16 - Dec 16 with 1631 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:00 - Dec 16 by lifelong

I don’t love Grimes, I think he is a very skilful player though, he plays the way that our previous 4 managers have probably instructed him to. The same 4 managers who have selected him for virtually every game that he has been available.


He has skill.
However, every manager we have had has done nothing for him,looking at him now.
Are you seriously telling me he is the heartbeat of the team.
It’s a nice conceit but a false one .
Former manager Cooper buggered up two play offs,Russ ….!

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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:32 - Dec 16 with 1577 viewsWhiterockin

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:16 - Dec 16 by onehunglow

He has skill.
However, every manager we have had has done nothing for him,looking at him now.
Are you seriously telling me he is the heartbeat of the team.
It’s a nice conceit but a false one .
Former manager Cooper buggered up two play offs,Russ ….!


If the next manager coming plays him and makes him captain how many will that be in a row four or five? But obviously you know better.
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:36 - Dec 16 with 1538 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:32 - Dec 16 by Whiterockin

If the next manager coming plays him and makes him captain how many will that be in a row four or five? But obviously you know better.


You may well be right Whitey.
Does captain Grimes inspire you?
Yes or no?

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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:46 - Dec 16 with 1502 viewsWhiterockin

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:36 - Dec 16 by onehunglow

You may well be right Whitey.
Does captain Grimes inspire you?
Yes or no?


He doesn't need to inspire me, just do the job. Normally I'm against Grimes and Fulton together in midfield but today they were better IMO, not both sitting flat but taking turns to push forward.
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:50 - Dec 16 with 1484 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:46 - Dec 16 by Whiterockin

He doesn't need to inspire me, just do the job. Normally I'm against Grimes and Fulton together in midfield but today they were better IMO, not both sitting flat but taking turns to push forward.


Whitey.
Captains have to lead ,inspire ,lead and organise .

I wouldn’t have signed many players we have in recent years too.

I certainly wouldn’t give already well paid players and extra 1 yr contract only for them to simply sit on the bench.

We are not utilising our rescources correctly.

Watching Ipswich today was a revelation. A club reborn, restarted and it’s why they sold 50,000 shirts.
Ipswich .

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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 20:08 - Dec 16 with 1454 viewslifelong

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 19:50 - Dec 16 by onehunglow

Whitey.
Captains have to lead ,inspire ,lead and organise .

I wouldn’t have signed many players we have in recent years too.

I certainly wouldn’t give already well paid players and extra 1 yr contract only for them to simply sit on the bench.

We are not utilising our rescources correctly.

Watching Ipswich today was a revelation. A club reborn, restarted and it’s why they sold 50,000 shirts.
Ipswich .


Ipswich Town have a very good football history, especially during the Bobby Robson era.
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 20:10 - Dec 16 with 1442 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 20:08 - Dec 16 by lifelong

Ipswich Town have a very good football history, especially during the Bobby Robson era.


Remember the Ray Crawford team?
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 20:18 - Dec 16 with 1426 viewslifelong

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 20:10 - Dec 16 by onehunglow

Remember the Ray Crawford team?
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Not really, I remember them winning the EUFA cup in the early 80’s.
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 20:19 - Dec 16 with 1417 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 20:18 - Dec 16 by lifelong

Not really, I remember them winning the EUFA cup in the early 80’s.


That was Alf Ramsey era .
Small,town with big following though .
Almost Holland really

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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 22:40 - Dec 16 with 1238 viewsBillyChong

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 17:45 - Dec 16 by ReslovenSwan1

I blame the stand in manager. He set out for a draw. He had nothing to lose and should have gone for the throat. Get the lead then bring on Fulton and co. to close things out.

Swansea teams over the years are not afraid to play and attack usually with two clever and fast wingers and a top class centre forward, The midfielder were sharp and nimble like Allen, De Guzman and Britton were.

Now the team is boring and mechanical. We have ordinary joes like Cullen and Yates playing out of position who are not fast. Mechanical lumbering Grimes and Fulton in midfield. No blame on them the harder they work the further backward the club goes. They are rowing hard with a ship that has holes in it.

Swansea have not had a reliable keeper on the books since Fabianski left FIVE YEARS AGO. No more loans. Develop for Swansea . Bring in young talent and develop it.


The blame is at the top of the tree. The yanks aren’t going to invest in a good keeper nor the rest of the positions you mention. It’s all downgrades and loans. Coleman claimed duff was a ‘winner an a leader’. Look at how that turned out, Sheehan was never employed to be the manager.
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 10:46 - Dec 17 with 1001 viewsRichardO

Just watch the highlights for the Middlesbrough first goal the issues created the opening and is the most telling as it changes the mindset of the defenders marking. Fulton nips in and gets ahead ahead of their midfielder gaining possession of the ball but the referee gets in the way not allowing Fulton to continue at the pace he had built up, if Fulton had clattered into the ref the game would surely of had to be stopped?
Cabango had correctly come forward marking his player but Humpreys thinking we were in possession of the ball left his forward to give Fulton in possession an option.
For me goal 100% the opening is caused by the bad positioning of the ref.

Overall a much better preformance with the two goals conceded very much out of the hands of the temp manager.

Some would question why Cooper came on for Walsh( who may have been protected given his injury history and game time) instead of Patino but as had been suggested is we may not have Patino for very long given the rumours, so do you build your team on players who are our own and not loans.
Should Sheehan get the managers job with the three games seen most would say no but yesterday's showing some would say yes given he seems to have got a tune out of a team that had been playing poorly.
Don't know if I want a new man coming in who has to learn all over again what our players can or cannot do.
Can we afford a bedding in period?
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 11:08 - Dec 17 with 970 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 10:46 - Dec 17 by RichardO

Just watch the highlights for the Middlesbrough first goal the issues created the opening and is the most telling as it changes the mindset of the defenders marking. Fulton nips in and gets ahead ahead of their midfielder gaining possession of the ball but the referee gets in the way not allowing Fulton to continue at the pace he had built up, if Fulton had clattered into the ref the game would surely of had to be stopped?
Cabango had correctly come forward marking his player but Humpreys thinking we were in possession of the ball left his forward to give Fulton in possession an option.
For me goal 100% the opening is caused by the bad positioning of the ref.

Overall a much better preformance with the two goals conceded very much out of the hands of the temp manager.

Some would question why Cooper came on for Walsh( who may have been protected given his injury history and game time) instead of Patino but as had been suggested is we may not have Patino for very long given the rumours, so do you build your team on players who are our own and not loans.
Should Sheehan get the managers job with the three games seen most would say no but yesterday's showing some would say yes given he seems to have got a tune out of a team that had been playing poorly.
Don't know if I want a new man coming in who has to learn all over again what our players can or cannot do.
Can we afford a bedding in period?


You might actually be right.that post made me think.
I’m beginning to think until we sort out our sourcing of players and how we operate nothing is going to change .
If Sheehan wants the gig then maybe give him it

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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 11:34 - Dec 17 with 956 viewsRichardO

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 11:08 - Dec 17 by onehunglow

You might actually be right.that post made me think.
I’m beginning to think until we sort out our sourcing of players and how we operate nothing is going to change .
If Sheehan wants the gig then maybe give him it


It is a gamble either way.
We need to get players fit, blood some of our youngsters or even get new players in but please let's not go overboard with aged players the likes of Hourihane who added nothing to the squad.
With Bolaise if we are paying within our means fine, who would we be able to get in during a January window anyway, lower league players running their contracts down, or similar players from aboard who may be more technically gifted players
Make sure we are fine this season as early as possible and ring in the changes later in the season.
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 12:14 - Dec 17 with 915 viewsRichardO

Would be interested to know people's view on whether the referee interfered with play by blocking off Fulton for the first goal.
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 12:31 - Dec 17 with 894 viewsnantywatcher

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 12:14 - Dec 17 by RichardO

Would be interested to know people's view on whether the referee interfered with play by blocking off Fulton for the first goal.


I agree with you.
Patino was pretty hopeless yesterday, only half interested. If he had been pumped up and not a loanee going through the motions he definitely had chances to have created at least one goal for us yesterday.
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Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 12:34 - Dec 17 with 892 viewsRichardO

Swansea City v Middlesbrough: Match day thread on 12:31 - Dec 17 by nantywatcher

I agree with you.
Patino was pretty hopeless yesterday, only half interested. If he had been pumped up and not a loanee going through the motions he definitely had chances to have created at least one goal for us yesterday.


On his way I think, credit to Paterson for not bottling out of some of his challenges yesterday.
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