| Lineker’ comments yesterday 10:13 - Jan 29 with 6324 views | KeithHaynes |
“It's quite literally farmers' league to Premier League," Lineker joked on BBC's coverage.
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 22:44 - Jan 29 with 1458 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 21:27 - Jan 29 by STID2017 |
Do you honestly think that 99.9% of those who join in with the chants and songs consider for one minute what they are singing ,?
If whoever leads their "singing" decided to sing a song with the words "All the Welsh are great singers and love daffodills" they would join in
Of course you would no doubt claim that is positive discrimination as it suggesting two things which are no more based on fact that the S/S song |
We live in the world where a chant on camera can get you a jail sentences and a 3 year ban from the club. I recall the press tracked down two bloke doing something stupid when a death of a disabled child was announced,
Swansea city football club apparently opposed all forms of abuse. Zero tolerance. I have not seen that wording recently. Perhaps a bit of filthy abuse should be tolerated as long as it is the welsh on the end of it not any other ethnic group.
Other ethnic groups get a bit hot under the collar and we could not have that. Actually only 10% of Swans fans appreciate the ethnic slur according to a recent poll. |  |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 23:08 - Jan 29 with 1439 views | STID2017 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 22:44 - Jan 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
We live in the world where a chant on camera can get you a jail sentences and a 3 year ban from the club. I recall the press tracked down two bloke doing something stupid when a death of a disabled child was announced,
Swansea city football club apparently opposed all forms of abuse. Zero tolerance. I have not seen that wording recently. Perhaps a bit of filthy abuse should be tolerated as long as it is the welsh on the end of it not any other ethnic group.
Other ethnic groups get a bit hot under the collar and we could not have that. Actually only 10% of Swans fans appreciate the ethnic slur according to a recent poll. |
You should have been a politician ... never answered my question (as you cannot).
So just repeat the same boring diatribe, regardless of its relevance.
Same as the Trust nonsense you bring into endless threads, be it relevant or not.
Edit: Forgot to say, do you remember the Two Ronnies doing a sketch based on Mastermind, where the contestant answered the question before ?
You to a tee that [Post edited 29 Jan 2024 23:10]
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 01:35 - Jan 30 with 1411 views | Robbie |
Watched the game Sunday on tele , great match too .
Lineker , Shearer and Micah Richards presentation sounded fine to me , no problem .
Did not even remember hearing saying the Farmers remark , went over my head .
Are we at a stage were any comment is taken out of context , we go into meltdown .
Lets complain about Sheep lover insults , always Englsh , always cheating etc .
Pundits say things without thinking , or should do before waffling on Live TV .
Total overreaction by many , more concerned at WBA v Wolves , that is a talking point . |  | | |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 07:53 - Jan 30 with 1354 views | STID2017 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 01:35 - Jan 30 by Robbie |
Watched the game Sunday on tele , great match too .
Lineker , Shearer and Micah Richards presentation sounded fine to me , no problem .
Did not even remember hearing saying the Farmers remark , went over my head .
Are we at a stage were any comment is taken out of context , we go into meltdown .
Lets complain about Sheep lover insults , always Englsh , always cheating etc .
Pundits say things without thinking , or should do before waffling on Live TV .
Total overreaction by many , more concerned at WBA v Wolves , that is a talking point . |
Exactly.
Every word said by anyone in the public eye is scrutinized to the nth degree.
Most of it is equivalent to school yard tittle tattle | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 20:34 - Jan 30 with 1283 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 23:08 - Jan 29 by STID2017 |
You should have been a politician ... never answered my question (as you cannot).
So just repeat the same boring diatribe, regardless of its relevance.
Same as the Trust nonsense you bring into endless threads, be it relevant or not.
Edit: Forgot to say, do you remember the Two Ronnies doing a sketch based on Mastermind, where the contestant answered the question before ?
You to a tee that [Post edited 29 Jan 2024 23:10]
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Your question
"Do you honestly think that 99.9% of those who join in with the chants and songs consider for one minute what they are singing ,?"
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" Yes I do. They are engaging in ethnic slurs are are really stupid". | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 20:37 - Jan 30 with 1268 views | Whiterockin |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 20:34 - Jan 30 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Your question
"Do you honestly think that 99.9% of those who join in with the chants and songs consider for one minute what they are singing ,?"
Answer
" Yes I do. They are engaging in ethnic slurs are are really stupid". |
We are playing live and you are more interested in posting about your agenda, are you really a supporter. |  | | |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 22:01 - Jan 30 with 1219 views | Whiterockin |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 20:37 - Jan 30 by Whiterockin |
We are playing live and you are more interested in posting about your agenda, are you really a supporter. |
Keep down narrowing me mate, you really are embarrassing yourself, is it the best you can do.  | | | |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 00:55 - Jan 31 with 1167 views | Robbie |
For many years , might still happen now , Notts County , Forest and Mansfield fans were chanted at in various grounds , Scabs , bet so many of them shouting had no idea of the history and background , some probably not even born then .
Munich Air crash , Hillsborough , now that is real poison , cannot be stamped out either so puts remarks like Farmers football standard , sheep loving taffies so irrelevant .
Shot the Cardiff scum sung by some of ours , pathetic and not wanted by me . | | | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 13:33 - Jan 31 with 1089 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 00:55 - Jan 31 by Robbie |
For many years , might still happen now , Notts County , Forest and Mansfield fans were chanted at in various grounds , Scabs , bet so many of them shouting had no idea of the history and background , some probably not even born then .
Munich Air crash , Hillsborough , now that is real poison , cannot be stamped out either so puts remarks like Farmers football standard , sheep loving taffies so irrelevant .
Shot the Cardiff scum sung by some of ours , pathetic and not wanted by me . |
You are missing one critical angle. The race /ethnic angle.
The sheep slur is for all Welsh people and is an ethnic slur. The flag waver on here and sell out exiles tell you Wales is no good and we are not an ethnic group so it is not a racial / ethnic slur.
The Welsh are Celtic people with a Celtic language. We are an ethnic group.
Swansea chant "we are into bestially" without any agitation. They are engaging in ethnic slurs. The poll showed 10% love ethnic slurs and another 45% are indifferent to racial slurs.
It could be argued is that Swansea fans in the are still intrinsically racist. I do not acknowledge some statement of sympathy for high profile black players are genuine as it is in some cases not based on a solid moral foundation. | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:07 - Jan 31 with 1085 views | STID2017 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 13:33 - Jan 31 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are missing one critical angle. The race /ethnic angle.
The sheep slur is for all Welsh people and is an ethnic slur. The flag waver on here and sell out exiles tell you Wales is no good and we are not an ethnic group so it is not a racial / ethnic slur.
The Welsh are Celtic people with a Celtic language. We are an ethnic group.
Swansea chant "we are into bestially" without any agitation. They are engaging in ethnic slurs. The poll showed 10% love ethnic slurs and another 45% are indifferent to racial slurs.
It could be argued is that Swansea fans in the are still intrinsically racist. I do not acknowledge some statement of sympathy for high profile black players are genuine as it is in some cases not based on a solid moral foundation. |
If you lived in Swansea you would know that is an increasingly multicultural city.
Many people originally from outside of Wales (and goes without saying many originally from outside of Britain) reside in and around the area reside here either permanently or temporarily.
Many of these have made Swansea their club.
I cannot speak for all, but I would think when requested to complete a form asking how one consider's onself ethnically, many put White Welsh or whatever Welsh as an ethnicity.
You obviously think to deep about the S/S song, as I cannot imagine one person singing it and almost to a person no one hearing it (Despite what the nonsensical poll indicated) taking an understanding that Wales are no good, are not an ethnic group and are proud of their heritage.
By the same token I have discussed with many of my Irish family the jokes poking fun at the Irish.
Far from taking offence, they enlightened me to the fact that the same jokes are told, only substituting counties for Ireland (e.g A man from Dublin might be the Englishman, Wicklow the Welsh man and Mayo the Irishman )
It really is time to give your one man campaign a rest - for yiur own good | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:21 - Jan 31 with 1060 views | onehunglow |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 13:33 - Jan 31 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are missing one critical angle. The race /ethnic angle.
The sheep slur is for all Welsh people and is an ethnic slur. The flag waver on here and sell out exiles tell you Wales is no good and we are not an ethnic group so it is not a racial / ethnic slur.
The Welsh are Celtic people with a Celtic language. We are an ethnic group.
Swansea chant "we are into bestially" without any agitation. They are engaging in ethnic slurs. The poll showed 10% love ethnic slurs and another 45% are indifferent to racial slurs.
It could be argued is that Swansea fans in the are still intrinsically racist. I do not acknowledge some statement of sympathy for high profile black players are genuine as it is in some cases not based on a solid moral foundation. |
No.
Neither a race or ethnic
Welsh no different genetically from most of England although by the I mean indigenous English folk,whom you despise . | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 16:41 - Jan 31 with 1004 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:21 - Jan 31 by onehunglow |
No.
Neither a race or ethnic
Welsh no different genetically from most of England although by the I mean indigenous English folk,whom you despise . |
I do not s despise English folk at all. I lived there for 20 years and have loved English family cousins etc.
I am happy to be British and Welsh. It is not an either or issue for me as it is for Killkeny for example.
The definition of Ethnicity does not fall into you narrow template of genetics.
[Ethnicity has been defined as: "the social group a person belongs to, and either identifies with or is identified with by others, as a result of a mix of cultural and other factors including language, diet, religion, ancestry and physical features traditionally associated with race"].
Swansea fans sing ethnic slurs regularly and Swansea has been associated with more racial abuse issues over he last few years than the vast majority of other clubs. Cabango, Rhys Williams, Dhanda, Whitaker over the last three season.
The poll shows that the majority of fans are either pro ethnic slurs or tolerant of ethnic slurs. Linking bestially to a certain ethnic group is illegal and defined as "racially aggravated disorderly conduct" when taken in front of a court of law. This usually only happened when police officers or security staff are directly affected.
Some defend the right of an English man in a zombie state or otherwise to sing ethnic slurs under specific circumstances. Swansea .com stadium is the place for them it seems. The locals join in. The claim zero tolerance but that is just PR blurb.
The same people wear a ribbon for Casey. | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 16:44 - Jan 31 with 999 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:21 - Jan 31 by onehunglow |
No.
Neither a race or ethnic
Welsh no different genetically from most of England although by the I mean indigenous English folk,whom you despise . |
Sorry...
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015 | | | |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 23:14 - Jan 31 with 941 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 16:41 - Jan 31 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I do not s despise English folk at all. I lived there for 20 years and have loved English family cousins etc.
I am happy to be British and Welsh. It is not an either or issue for me as it is for Killkeny for example.
The definition of Ethnicity does not fall into you narrow template of genetics.
[Ethnicity has been defined as: "the social group a person belongs to, and either identifies with or is identified with by others, as a result of a mix of cultural and other factors including language, diet, religion, ancestry and physical features traditionally associated with race"].
Swansea fans sing ethnic slurs regularly and Swansea has been associated with more racial abuse issues over he last few years than the vast majority of other clubs. Cabango, Rhys Williams, Dhanda, Whitaker over the last three season.
The poll shows that the majority of fans are either pro ethnic slurs or tolerant of ethnic slurs. Linking bestially to a certain ethnic group is illegal and defined as "racially aggravated disorderly conduct" when taken in front of a court of law. This usually only happened when police officers or security staff are directly affected.
Some defend the right of an English man in a zombie state or otherwise to sing ethnic slurs under specific circumstances. Swansea .com stadium is the place for them it seems. The locals join in. The claim zero tolerance but that is just PR blurb.
The same people wear a ribbon for Casey. |
Correct you are welsh.
Welsh people live in the British state.
English people live in the British state.
The British state is a political construct that incorporates 3 nations, and an area in the north of Ireland.
Hopefully this will be changing soon.
Indy for England. |  |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 13:06 - Feb 1 with 880 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 23:14 - Jan 31 by Kilkennyjack |
Correct you are welsh.
Welsh people live in the British state.
English people live in the British state.
The British state is a political construct that incorporates 3 nations, and an area in the north of Ireland.
Hopefully this will be changing soon.
Indy for England. |
According to one poster on here i have to accept ethnic slurs against my own people "for my own good".
This is was the message / vibe the zombie Hereford supporter put out about 28 y o or so, 6 ft 3in demented look bulging eyes and neck tattoos. He saw it as an historical right to come to our land insult us and threaten our friends families. The SWP will only prosecute if they are directly affected/ It was "racially aggravated s disorderly behaviour".
It is not acceptable here or in England. Over 50% of our fans doff their cap and engage. Its pathetic. | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 13:32 - Feb 1 with 850 views | STID2017 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 16:41 - Jan 31 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I do not s despise English folk at all. I lived there for 20 years and have loved English family cousins etc.
I am happy to be British and Welsh. It is not an either or issue for me as it is for Killkeny for example.
The definition of Ethnicity does not fall into you narrow template of genetics.
[Ethnicity has been defined as: "the social group a person belongs to, and either identifies with or is identified with by others, as a result of a mix of cultural and other factors including language, diet, religion, ancestry and physical features traditionally associated with race"].
Swansea fans sing ethnic slurs regularly and Swansea has been associated with more racial abuse issues over he last few years than the vast majority of other clubs. Cabango, Rhys Williams, Dhanda, Whitaker over the last three season.
The poll shows that the majority of fans are either pro ethnic slurs or tolerant of ethnic slurs. Linking bestially to a certain ethnic group is illegal and defined as "racially aggravated disorderly conduct" when taken in front of a court of law. This usually only happened when police officers or security staff are directly affected.
Some defend the right of an English man in a zombie state or otherwise to sing ethnic slurs under specific circumstances. Swansea .com stadium is the place for them it seems. The locals join in. The claim zero tolerance but that is just PR blurb.
The same people wear a ribbon for Casey. |
It's Kasey
You don't even have enough respect to get hi name right, let alone refuse to stop your one man campaign comparing his abuse to a pathetic but clearly self effacing Sheep chant
Do give it a rest.
By not stopping with your nonsense you are insulting every man, woman and child of all nations who has genuinely suffered racial abuse, both verbal and physical. | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 13:51 - Feb 1 with 832 views | STID2017 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 13:06 - Feb 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
According to one poster on here i have to accept ethnic slurs against my own people "for my own good".
This is was the message / vibe the zombie Hereford supporter put out about 28 y o or so, 6 ft 3in demented look bulging eyes and neck tattoos. He saw it as an historical right to come to our land insult us and threaten our friends families. The SWP will only prosecute if they are directly affected/ It was "racially aggravated s disorderly behaviour".
It is not acceptable here or in England. Over 50% of our fans doff their cap and engage. Its pathetic. |
61 people voted in that nonsensical mickey taking poll regarding the S/S chant
You honestly feel it is representative of the many thousands of Swans fans both local and across the globe ?
It is merely a straw poll.
Like on Family Fortunes when they ask 100 people, our survey said ...
Does not mean the answers are correct or are a representation of the views of the public at large
On another day the answers and percentages would change
No one in their right mind thinks anyone should accept any ethnic slurs. That is racial discrimination.
However neither you or anyone else has suffered racial discrimination due to the self effacing Sheep song
Please accept that once and for all | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 13:51 - Feb 1 with 832 views | Whiterockin |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 13:32 - Feb 1 by STID2017 |
It's Kasey
You don't even have enough respect to get hi name right, let alone refuse to stop your one man campaign comparing his abuse to a pathetic but clearly self effacing Sheep chant
Do give it a rest.
By not stopping with your nonsense you are insulting every man, woman and child of all nations who has genuinely suffered racial abuse, both verbal and physical. |
Have a bit if sympathy, he was frightened once by a Hereford supporter and it has affected him badly. Now it is in open I can understand how such a dramatic event can change your thoughts on things that don't seem to matter to many. Possibly I have been too harsh, for that I apologise, my thoughts are with him. | | | |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:04 - Feb 1 with 809 views | STID2017 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 13:51 - Feb 1 by Whiterockin |
Have a bit if sympathy, he was frightened once by a Hereford supporter and it has affected him badly. Now it is in open I can understand how such a dramatic event can change your thoughts on things that don't seem to matter to many. Possibly I have been too harsh, for that I apologise, my thoughts are with him. |
I went to Plymouth as a weedy 17 year old to watch our famous 2-2 draw.
After the game, I almost became an innocent victim of some knucklehead who wanted to beat me to a pulp for (I assume), daring to be Welsh and from Swansea.
Luckily an adult I was with intervened.
Perhaps I can use that as an excuse to never go past Home Park to visit my brother and his family who had the audacity to move there without consulting me on whether I had recovered from the trauma caused by my experience that day ?
Having been past Home Park about 50 times in the past three years, perhaps I should sue PAFC for the pain and suffering each journey brings ?
I am sure many of us have such horror stories we could share ?
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:09 - Feb 1 with 801 views | Whiterockin |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:04 - Feb 1 by STID2017 |
I went to Plymouth as a weedy 17 year old to watch our famous 2-2 draw.
After the game, I almost became an innocent victim of some knucklehead who wanted to beat me to a pulp for (I assume), daring to be Welsh and from Swansea.
Luckily an adult I was with intervened.
Perhaps I can use that as an excuse to never go past Home Park to visit my brother and his family who had the audacity to move there without consulting me on whether I had recovered from the trauma caused by my experience that day ?
Having been past Home Park about 50 times in the past three years, perhaps I should sue PAFC for the pain and suffering each journey brings ?
I am sure many of us have such horror stories we could share ?
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Yes but some are more fragile that others, we need to be more tolerant and inclusive. | | | |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:22 - Feb 1 with 776 views | STID2017 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:09 - Feb 1 by Whiterockin |
Yes but some are more fragile that others, we need to be more tolerant and inclusive. |
You are correct of course.
Some are affected by seemingly small things and their trauma is heightened.
Sympathies to "all " affected by the insinutions of the Sheep song.
While I am at it can I offer my sympathies to the many people from certain areas who are affected by the damaging and misleading portrayal of residents of certain areas of Swansea East in "The Townhill Rap"
Relly funny though ... | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:24 - Feb 1 with 773 views | Whiterockin |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:22 - Feb 1 by STID2017 |
You are correct of course.
Some are affected by seemingly small things and their trauma is heightened.
Sympathies to "all " affected by the insinutions of the Sheep song.
While I am at it can I offer my sympathies to the many people from certain areas who are affected by the damaging and misleading portrayal of residents of certain areas of Swansea East in "The Townhill Rap"
Relly funny though ... |
We can't all be strong mate. | | | |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:26 - Feb 1 with 770 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:04 - Feb 1 by STID2017 |
I went to Plymouth as a weedy 17 year old to watch our famous 2-2 draw.
After the game, I almost became an innocent victim of some knucklehead who wanted to beat me to a pulp for (I assume), daring to be Welsh and from Swansea.
Luckily an adult I was with intervened.
Perhaps I can use that as an excuse to never go past Home Park to visit my brother and his family who had the audacity to move there without consulting me on whether I had recovered from the trauma caused by my experience that day ?
Having been past Home Park about 50 times in the past three years, perhaps I should sue PAFC for the pain and suffering each journey brings ?
I am sure many of us have such horror stories we could share ?
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You as a youth were subjected to "racially aggravated disorderly conduct" and as such have notionally the protection of the law.
We as Welsh fans do not have to accept racial slurs unless we want to engage in it a ourselves. The option of the law is available to us.
I am making the argument that the sympathy for Kasey (apologies for wrong spelling) is fake. This is because we as fan base are intrinsically racist and sing ethnic slurs as part of our identity.
The Welsh fans sang "we know who we are, we are sheep shaggers off to Qatar". This was internationalising an English slur with pride. "We are into bestially" we sang to the watching billions. No wonder the team wilted. A national embarrassment.
Swansea fans prefer to engage with ethnic slurs rather than highlight them. "Swansea .com home of ethnic slurs". Lineker was wise to know his limits. | |
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:29 - Feb 1 with 763 views | STID2017 |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:24 - Feb 1 by Whiterockin |
We can't all be strong mate. |
Perhaps a support group could be formed for all those affected by the Sheep song.
Any idea where I can hire a phone box ?
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| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:31 - Feb 1 with 756 views | Whiterockin |
| Lineker’ comments yesterday on 14:29 - Feb 1 by STID2017 |
Perhaps a support group could be formed for all those affected by the Sheep song.
Any idea where I can hire a phone box ?
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Could meet in the trust kiosk pre match, kill two birds with one stone. | | | |
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