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There is justice after all 10:27 - Feb 23 with 2662 viewsBoundy

Shamima Begum has lost her appeal against losing her UK citizenship.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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There is justice after all on 10:14 - Feb 26 with 1228 viewscontroversial_jack

There is justice after all on 14:10 - Feb 24 by Gwyn737

By civilised society I meant us.

If you believe in a fair trial, then the law needs to be tested. We need lawyers for that even if we disagree with the motives of a few.

What’s the alternative? People don’t have representation? That’s a slippery slope.


We also need to protect undergrad girls who have been radicalized, trafficked and abused. We have clearly failed in this instance
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There is justice after all on 12:43 - Feb 26 with 1205 viewsBoundy

There is justice after all on 10:14 - Feb 26 by controversial_jack

We also need to protect undergrad girls who have been radicalized, trafficked and abused. We have clearly failed in this instance


The majority of this country along with the judiciary thankfully disagree .Cry me a river .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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There is justice after all on 13:02 - Feb 26 with 1176 viewscontroversial_jack

There is justice after all on 12:43 - Feb 26 by Boundy

The majority of this country along with the judiciary thankfully disagree .Cry me a river .


That's hardly a recommendation is it?
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There is justice after all on 20:18 - Feb 26 with 1119 viewsBoundy

There is justice after all on 13:02 - Feb 26 by controversial_jack

That's hardly a recommendation is it?


So your views and lack of detailed knowledge supersedes the highest courts in the country .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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There is justice after all on 00:35 - Feb 27 with 1076 viewsReslovenSwan1

There is justice after all on 20:18 - Feb 26 by Boundy

So your views and lack of detailed knowledge supersedes the highest courts in the country .


We have dumped her on our allies to look after. The Kurdish fighters in Syria.

Shamima was created in Bethnal Green not Syria. He radicalisation was caused in central London at the Mosque in Bethnal Green. She is a British creation.

She has turned out bad and now we dump her to be a burden on our allies.

It is probably a good deterrent for future young girls to consider but let not pretend it honorable and decent. Christianity is about forgiveness.

We have fly tipped this girl. We do not have the constitution do deal with others just as bad who turn up illegally unannounced.

One group of plane passengers objected to the physical repatriation of a violent Jamaican last year. Out of sight out of mind. "Just like that sofa i left at the lay by".

Wise sage since Toshack era

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There is justice after all on 08:24 - Feb 27 with 1047 viewsBoundy

There is justice after all on 00:35 - Feb 27 by ReslovenSwan1

We have dumped her on our allies to look after. The Kurdish fighters in Syria.

Shamima was created in Bethnal Green not Syria. He radicalisation was caused in central London at the Mosque in Bethnal Green. She is a British creation.

She has turned out bad and now we dump her to be a burden on our allies.

It is probably a good deterrent for future young girls to consider but let not pretend it honorable and decent. Christianity is about forgiveness.

We have fly tipped this girl. We do not have the constitution do deal with others just as bad who turn up illegally unannounced.

One group of plane passengers objected to the physical repatriation of a violent Jamaican last year. Out of sight out of mind. "Just like that sofa i left at the lay by".


". She is a British creation." Wrong , she's the creation of her parents one of which has no problem with the stripping of her citizenship, what an indictment, her own father.
No ones mentioned Christianity, its the law of the land ,which is more civilised than the group she joined and was happy to live within and one I agree with. Do you care about the other 220 who have also lost their passports over the past 10 years , I bet you can't name one.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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There is justice after all on 09:16 - Feb 27 with 1026 viewsonehunglow

There is justice after all on 00:35 - Feb 27 by ReslovenSwan1

We have dumped her on our allies to look after. The Kurdish fighters in Syria.

Shamima was created in Bethnal Green not Syria. He radicalisation was caused in central London at the Mosque in Bethnal Green. She is a British creation.

She has turned out bad and now we dump her to be a burden on our allies.

It is probably a good deterrent for future young girls to consider but let not pretend it honorable and decent. Christianity is about forgiveness.

We have fly tipped this girl. We do not have the constitution do deal with others just as bad who turn up illegally unannounced.

One group of plane passengers objected to the physical repatriation of a violent Jamaican last year. Out of sight out of mind. "Just like that sofa i left at the lay by".


Christianity is about power and control

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There is justice after all on 12:12 - Feb 27 with 995 viewsunion_jack

There is justice after all on 09:16 - Feb 27 by onehunglow

Christianity is about power and control


All religion is.

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There is justice after all on 12:53 - Feb 27 with 965 viewsonehunglow

There is justice after all on 12:12 - Feb 27 by union_jack

All religion is.


Indeed but Red only mentioned Christianity
If add Toxic

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There is justice after all on 15:35 - Feb 27 with 928 viewsWingstandwood

There is justice after all on 00:35 - Feb 27 by ReslovenSwan1

We have dumped her on our allies to look after. The Kurdish fighters in Syria.

Shamima was created in Bethnal Green not Syria. He radicalisation was caused in central London at the Mosque in Bethnal Green. She is a British creation.

She has turned out bad and now we dump her to be a burden on our allies.

It is probably a good deterrent for future young girls to consider but let not pretend it honorable and decent. Christianity is about forgiveness.

We have fly tipped this girl. We do not have the constitution do deal with others just as bad who turn up illegally unannounced.

One group of plane passengers objected to the physical repatriation of a violent Jamaican last year. Out of sight out of mind. "Just like that sofa i left at the lay by".


Aye, the very reason the former leader of South Armagh Jonesborough/North Lough IRA was subject of a exclusion order in the 1980's and banned from entering NI was because intelligence deemed him to be an extremely serious threat to U.K territory. Just like Begum.

And what happened during later times in the 1990's when government/security force interest/vigilance faded? That very former Provisional IRA commander defected to the Real IRA and? BOOM, because he directed the Omagh Atrocity during the so called peace process by taking advantage of that.

And just like with Begum the U.K (and Ireland) wanted him as far away as possible i.e. extradited to Lithuania! You see when it comes to protecting children and adults going about doing their daily business? The further away evil people are the better! For some inexplicable reason with some however its a case of "The closer the better".

Argus!

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There is justice after all on 16:28 - Feb 27 with 898 viewsonehunglow

There is justice after all on 15:35 - Feb 27 by Wingstandwood

Aye, the very reason the former leader of South Armagh Jonesborough/North Lough IRA was subject of a exclusion order in the 1980's and banned from entering NI was because intelligence deemed him to be an extremely serious threat to U.K territory. Just like Begum.

And what happened during later times in the 1990's when government/security force interest/vigilance faded? That very former Provisional IRA commander defected to the Real IRA and? BOOM, because he directed the Omagh Atrocity during the so called peace process by taking advantage of that.

And just like with Begum the U.K (and Ireland) wanted him as far away as possible i.e. extradited to Lithuania! You see when it comes to protecting children and adults going about doing their daily business? The further away evil people are the better! For some inexplicable reason with some however its a case of "The closer the better".


Bravo.
A devastating put down

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There is justice after all on 17:10 - Feb 27 with 884 viewsWingstandwood

There is justice after all on 16:28 - Feb 27 by onehunglow

Bravo.
A devastating put down


I love the “grooming” excuse on behalf of Begum also.

The very guy who acrimoniously replaced the aforementioned former leader of South Armagh Jonesborough/North Lough who latter went on to join the Real IRA? Well he was exactly the same age as border-crosser Begum (15 years old) when he joined the IRA to shortly after help build (mentioned in parliament) the Warrenpoint bomb that killed so many. One of the notorious IRA South Armagh sniper team also joined the IRA at 15 only to be caught 24 years later. 15 seems a rather nice figure for some?

This “grooming” sure does last a lifetime, especially when you consider that he the IRA Warrenpoint conspirator come future leader has also been named in parliament for being responsible for over 70 murders, and rose both in age and rank to head the most strategically important IRA unit, to then become an IRA GHQ member, to then become an IRA army council member.

But of course one born every minute loons often fall for “the dog eat my homework" standard excuses” time and time again. It did however not happen with former IRA chief Thomas Slab Murphy’s libel case however, because nobody were fooled when he claimed that he innocently thought a balaclava wearing IRA colour party witnessed amongst his midst were………”Members of a cycling club”.
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Argus!

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There is justice after all on 21:25 - Feb 28 with 729 viewsReslovenSwan1

There is justice after all on 16:28 - Feb 27 by onehunglow

Bravo.
A devastating put down


Bravo for the research. I am not familiar with this Irish case to be honest. It was however 44 years ago and the similarities are not that close perhaps.

I do not believe Begum is a security risk and could be re assimilated and assessed. She could be useful in addressing similar teenagers now providing she has changed her views. I am sure there are laws to put her inside if she returns to bad ways. We have dumped her on the Kurdish Militia. No one is concerned by this.

UK has a problem of the outrageous actions of the Israeli defence force which our Muslim communities rightly see as "turning a blind eye". That is exactly what UK is doing. The atrocities (by both sides) are appalling but a function of the lack of status and representation of a displaced people.

There needs to be Palestinian state as a matter of urgency. It is good for them good for Israel and good for the West. UK / USA have a so called "Special relationship", but US does not have a large Muslim community.

UK should show its power and independence and demand USA force a solution by economic and military means. This is at a time when USA is falterining on its leadership of NATO.

I favour a Palestinian State "river to the sea"with Gaza liked to the west Bank via a road and rail 'Corridor' supported by the West and Arabia with security applied by the Israelis for 30 years. All radical groups willl be made illegal.

Wise sage since Toshack era

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There is justice after all on 09:42 - Feb 29 with 682 viewscontroversial_jack

There are British troops fighting in the Ukraine against the Russians.They could put this countries security at risk. They shouldn't be allowed to return, and should have their passports revoked
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There is justice after all on 20:01 - Feb 29 with 640 viewsFlashberryjack

There is justice after all on 09:42 - Feb 29 by controversial_jack

There are British troops fighting in the Ukraine against the Russians.They could put this countries security at risk. They shouldn't be allowed to return, and should have their passports revoked


They were groomed.

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There is justice after all on 20:26 - Feb 29 with 623 viewsWingstandwood

There is justice after all on 20:01 - Feb 29 by Flashberryjack

They were groomed.



Argus!

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There is justice after all on 21:38 - Feb 29 with 598 viewsBoundy

There is justice after all on 20:01 - Feb 29 by Flashberryjack

They were groomed.


Did they know ?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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There is justice after all on 22:15 - Feb 29 with 569 viewscontroversial_jack

There is justice after all on 21:38 - Feb 29 by Boundy

Did they know ?


They are adults not underaged, which makes it worse
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There is justice after all on 13:54 - Mar 25 with 357 viewsWingstandwood

Breaking news!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13236031/shamima-begum-loses-initial-bi

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/26888482/shamima-begum-19-isis-brides-time-bomb/


Rejoice! Rejoice! Rejoice along with the fact that NINTEEN other U.K ISIS members are being kept away, because they are in the same camp as her!

Argus!

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There is justice after all on 14:39 - Mar 25 with 317 viewsFlashberryjack

There is justice after all on 13:54 - Mar 25 by Wingstandwood

Breaking news!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13236031/shamima-begum-loses-initial-bi

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/26888482/shamima-begum-19-isis-brides-time-bomb/


Rejoice! Rejoice! Rejoice along with the fact that NINTEEN other U.K ISIS members are being kept away, because they are in the same camp as her!


It's about time we looked to see if we can retrieve some of the money that's been scavenged by the human right lawyers.

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There is justice after all on 14:55 - Mar 25 with 309 viewsWingstandwood

There is justice after all on 14:39 - Mar 25 by Flashberryjack

It's about time we looked to see if we can retrieve some of the money that's been scavenged by the human right lawyers.


If Begum returned, the floodgates would open and the 'full set' will return to the U.K along with her also, my inkling is these 'ticking-time-bombs' are a major concern for the U.K government that does not want blood on its hands, hence the determination to keep them as away as far as possible.

But never mind there are nut-jobs out there who want them all back knowing all to well that they would all be out walking the streets after a short slap-on-the-wrist prison sentence whilst radicalising more inside whilst doing time.

Argus!

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There is justice after all on 15:07 - Mar 25 with 297 viewsonehunglow

There is justice after all on 14:55 - Mar 25 by Wingstandwood

If Begum returned, the floodgates would open and the 'full set' will return to the U.K along with her also, my inkling is these 'ticking-time-bombs' are a major concern for the U.K government that does not want blood on its hands, hence the determination to keep them as away as far as possible.

But never mind there are nut-jobs out there who want them all back knowing all to well that they would all be out walking the streets after a short slap-on-the-wrist prison sentence whilst radicalising more inside whilst doing time.


She’s got a loyal legal team hasn’t she
Is it the estimable Gareth Pierce

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There is justice after all on 15:28 - Mar 25 with 291 viewsWingstandwood

There is justice after all on 15:07 - Mar 25 by onehunglow

She’s got a loyal legal team hasn’t she
Is it the estimable Gareth Pierce


That woman seems to be around as long as Coca Cola!

And how dare she destroy the dreams of passport-throwaway Begum and her merry gang, after all they're closer to walking in Prophet Muhamad's footsteps where they are now.

It's unfair to rob them of their "Holy-Land" experience, because the U.K would order a passport renewal ban if they came back and they would never get the chance to return anyhow. Apparently Caliphates are best suited to historical Caliphate type geographical/theological locations!

They're living the dream out there! It's their human right to do so bearing in mind the effort it took to get there in the first place! Why should killjoys ruin that for them?

Argus!

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There is justice after all on 16:47 - Mar 25 with 244 viewsonehunglow

There is justice after all on 15:28 - Mar 25 by Wingstandwood

That woman seems to be around as long as Coca Cola!

And how dare she destroy the dreams of passport-throwaway Begum and her merry gang, after all they're closer to walking in Prophet Muhamad's footsteps where they are now.

It's unfair to rob them of their "Holy-Land" experience, because the U.K would order a passport renewal ban if they came back and they would never get the chance to return anyhow. Apparently Caliphates are best suited to historical Caliphate type geographical/theological locations!

They're living the dream out there! It's their human right to do so bearing in mind the effort it took to get there in the first place! Why should killjoys ruin that for them?


Miss Gareth was well concerned over the WELFARE of IRA killers when they were in custody and then court
It takes a very sick,evil,mind to defend people like this
No offence meant to any flakes

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