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The Hunger Strikers 17:36 - Dec 12 with 559 viewsDr_Winston

The likes of Corbyn, Sultana, Polanski et all demonstrating emphatically why they should be allowed nowhere near actual power in the UK.

Voicing support for violent thugs who attacked a policewoman with a sledge hammer and then take part in an intermittent fast (not even a proper hunger strike), and they treat it like a major issue instead of a textbook case of FAFO.


Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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The Hunger Strikers on 17:52 - Dec 12 with 543 viewsmax936

Those far left are gonna ruin this Country, the Tories started the rot and Labour have and are making think's 10 times with those in the fair left of the party.
You only got to listen to what those in Welsh Labour to know that.

Trouble is Corbyn is seeing an opportunity to make himself relevant again.

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The Hunger Strikers on 18:01 - Dec 12 with 533 viewsAnotherJohn

Completely crazy to think that any Western country could allow an organised group to plan and carry out attacks on national defence assets. The offenders have to get serious jail time.
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The Hunger Strikers on 19:17 - Dec 12 with 490 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Sultana and Corbyn AKA the fruit and nut party are trying to table motions to have them released on bail as they claim death is imminent for these terrorists who are taking it in turns to skip the odd meal.

Why can’t we do what they did to Ian Brady and pin the scumbags down and shove tubes down their throats?

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The Hunger Strikers on 19:17 - Dec 12 with 490 viewsmajorraglan

I’ve no time for Corbyn or his ilk, I’m also of the view that the offenders should be held on remand BUT there are a couple of points in the article which need to be considered and looked at.

It appears that the trial is going to take place in January 2027 which will mean the suspects will spend 18 months on remand, that’s about 3 times longer than the limit for an indictable offence - I think that’s poor tbh and every effort should be made to speed things up. Being on remand for that length of time is in my opinion unacceptable. Expedite the case and if their found guilty bang them up for a long long time, but


Another major issue the article highlights is the fact that ministers have taking up to 12 months to reply to MPs raising the case. That’s bang out of order. We can’t have a situation where ministers and the civil service are ignoring MPs, we’re a democratic society where the rule of law should be sacrosanct and impartially discharged. Nobody should be above the law and government officials shouldn’t be exempt from answering questions or scrutiny in relation to cases. If ministers can do it here they can do it anywhere.

It’s not justice the offenders, the victims shouldn’t have to wait 18 months to 2 years for justice.
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The Hunger Strikers on 19:40 - Dec 12 with 484 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

The Hunger Strikers on 19:17 - Dec 12 by majorraglan

I’ve no time for Corbyn or his ilk, I’m also of the view that the offenders should be held on remand BUT there are a couple of points in the article which need to be considered and looked at.

It appears that the trial is going to take place in January 2027 which will mean the suspects will spend 18 months on remand, that’s about 3 times longer than the limit for an indictable offence - I think that’s poor tbh and every effort should be made to speed things up. Being on remand for that length of time is in my opinion unacceptable. Expedite the case and if their found guilty bang them up for a long long time, but


Another major issue the article highlights is the fact that ministers have taking up to 12 months to reply to MPs raising the case. That’s bang out of order. We can’t have a situation where ministers and the civil service are ignoring MPs, we’re a democratic society where the rule of law should be sacrosanct and impartially discharged. Nobody should be above the law and government officials shouldn’t be exempt from answering questions or scrutiny in relation to cases. If ministers can do it here they can do it anywhere.

It’s not justice the offenders, the victims shouldn’t have to wait 18 months to 2 years for justice.


The limit on time on remand can be extended if the charges are serious enough. Lucy letby was on remand for years waiting for her trial.

As these are designated terrorists with charges of a violent nature they can be little doubt they are incredibly high risk of reoffending so keeping them on remand is absolutely the correct thing to do in order to protect the public against their violent shenaniganery.

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The Hunger Strikers on 20:26 - Dec 12 with 459 viewsmajorraglan

The Hunger Strikers on 19:40 - Dec 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

The limit on time on remand can be extended if the charges are serious enough. Lucy letby was on remand for years waiting for her trial.

As these are designated terrorists with charges of a violent nature they can be little doubt they are incredibly high risk of reoffending so keeping them on remand is absolutely the correct thing to do in order to protect the public against their violent shenaniganery.


I appreciate that remand can be extended and I’m in favour of keeping this lot in for longer, but 18 months in my opinion is excessive.
The prosecution should be told to pull out all the stops and get this case ready for trial in say 9 months. It’s a damning indictment of our criminal justice system that this case has to wait 18 months before it can be heard. It’s likely that the closure of half the Courts in the U.K. by the previous government is factor in the delay, but imho the current government should be making efforts to identify temporary Courts etc to get justice moving again.
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The Hunger Strikers on 22:03 - Dec 12 with 433 viewsDemitrius

Personally....?

I'd just waste them. Job done. No publicity. If they want to die we can make that happen....

Begrudging respect to Sands in that it was a proper protest. Courage of conviction which these rainbow f**nuggets mob lack...

Je ne suis pas un Liberal...
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The Hunger Strikers on 08:49 - Dec 13 with 366 viewsAnotherJohn

The Hunger Strikers on 19:17 - Dec 12 by majorraglan

I’ve no time for Corbyn or his ilk, I’m also of the view that the offenders should be held on remand BUT there are a couple of points in the article which need to be considered and looked at.

It appears that the trial is going to take place in January 2027 which will mean the suspects will spend 18 months on remand, that’s about 3 times longer than the limit for an indictable offence - I think that’s poor tbh and every effort should be made to speed things up. Being on remand for that length of time is in my opinion unacceptable. Expedite the case and if their found guilty bang them up for a long long time, but


Another major issue the article highlights is the fact that ministers have taking up to 12 months to reply to MPs raising the case. That’s bang out of order. We can’t have a situation where ministers and the civil service are ignoring MPs, we’re a democratic society where the rule of law should be sacrosanct and impartially discharged. Nobody should be above the law and government officials shouldn’t be exempt from answering questions or scrutiny in relation to cases. If ministers can do it here they can do it anywhere.

It’s not justice the offenders, the victims shouldn’t have to wait 18 months to 2 years for justice.


The point about the length of time these persons will spend on remand seems fair. However, it did not seem to me that the alleged 12 months' delay in ministers replying to MPs' questions related to this case. Readers will recall that the primary alleged offences occurred on June 20th 2025. The article merely says that the Speaker had heard of a case that involved such a delay. Mr McDonald had complained that a letter written "last Wednesday" had still not been answered, meaning a delay at that stage of less than a week.

I was interested to read recently that in the US it is very common for time on remand to extend over a year because the defence says more time is needed to assemble their case, calculating that this may be advantageous to a defendant who has a high probability of conviction. Although it does not seem relevant to the Brize Norton case, I believe it is also possible for the defence in a UK case to request a change in the trial date further into the future and so increase the period on remand.
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The Hunger Strikers on 09:18 - Dec 13 with 349 viewsoldtownjack

The Hunger Strikers on 17:52 - Dec 12 by max936

Those far left are gonna ruin this Country, the Tories started the rot and Labour have and are making think's 10 times with those in the fair left of the party.
You only got to listen to what those in Welsh Labour to know that.

Trouble is Corbyn is seeing an opportunity to make himself relevant again.


The far left have been nowhere near any sort power in the UK for 40 years. I'm not sure it's them we have to worry about ruining our country at the moment.

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The Hunger Strikers on 09:33 - Dec 13 with 340 viewsbuilthjack

The bigger problem will be with those right wing racist loonies Reform.

Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.

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The Hunger Strikers on 10:19 - Dec 13 with 319 viewsDr_Winston

The Hunger Strikers on 09:18 - Dec 13 by oldtownjack

The far left have been nowhere near any sort power in the UK for 40 years. I'm not sure it's them we have to worry about ruining our country at the moment.


True. The far left has been habitually rejected at the ballot box for decades, which is what makes the insiduous creep of most of the political parties, the media, civil service and academia towards a liberal/centre/centre left approach so damaging. People have voted for right wing alternatives only to be served up with Blairism all the same.

Johnson ran on a fairly right wing platform in 2019 and won a landslide, then gave us the Boriswave and Covid lockdowns. Reform is rising because people are fed up of it. The failure of the Conservatives to actually run the country in a moderately right wing manner has led to the mass popularity of a party even further on the right.
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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The Hunger Strikers on 11:16 - Dec 13 with 296 viewsReslovenSwan1

If I had plans to break onto a n RAF site and vandalise a very expensive jet I would expect either to be violently arrested or shot on the spot. We laugh at Russia por security but at a time of stress we are no better.

The people carried out this act because they are particularly dim. It was also counter productive. The issue was Gaza now it is about civil rights in UK. A deflection away from Isreal.
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The Hunger Strikers on 14:45 - Dec 13 with 235 viewsmajorraglan

The Hunger Strikers on 08:49 - Dec 13 by AnotherJohn

The point about the length of time these persons will spend on remand seems fair. However, it did not seem to me that the alleged 12 months' delay in ministers replying to MPs' questions related to this case. Readers will recall that the primary alleged offences occurred on June 20th 2025. The article merely says that the Speaker had heard of a case that involved such a delay. Mr McDonald had complained that a letter written "last Wednesday" had still not been answered, meaning a delay at that stage of less than a week.

I was interested to read recently that in the US it is very common for time on remand to extend over a year because the defence says more time is needed to assemble their case, calculating that this may be advantageous to a defendant who has a high probability of conviction. Although it does not seem relevant to the Brize Norton case, I believe it is also possible for the defence in a UK case to request a change in the trial date further into the future and so increase the period on remand.


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I’ve re-read the article and there is definetly mention of 12 months to reply, but as you say this incident only happened 6 months ago so it can’t be that case. Just like some of the right leaning papers twist stories for their own ends it looks like the raving left leaning Morning Star has done the same.

In terms of being on remand, prisoners who are being held on remand generally have more privileges than those who’ve been found guilty. They can have more visits, wear their own clothes, make phone calls and have better access to books and other materials.
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The Hunger Strikers on 16:12 - Dec 14 with 149 viewsmax936

The Hunger Strikers on 09:18 - Dec 13 by oldtownjack

The far left have been nowhere near any sort power in the UK for 40 years. I'm not sure it's them we have to worry about ruining our country at the moment.


Well they are causing plenty of trouble up and down the country, the far right are doing the same as well for balance.

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The Hunger Strikers on 16:16 - Dec 14 with 148 viewsmax936

The Hunger Strikers on 09:33 - Dec 13 by builthjack

The bigger problem will be with those right wing racist loonies Reform.


The Country is in a hell of a state Builthy, there's not a decent political party worth their salt in the whole of the Country.

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