| Kolli 20:57 - Jan 4 with 2453 views | MajorShotKneesHoop |
I don't know what has gone on in the background but this bloke has got real class and he loves scoring goals.
Those two strikes today were top draw. Two footed, good vision, looks around and glides into spaces. I hope he gets a decent run.
His goals per appearances must be pretty high already. Maybe one in three, including substitutions.. He also got two against Norwich this time last year. I'd like to see him - and Morgan - getting more games.
Does the management have an aversion to home grown talent? [Post edited 4 Jan 20:58]
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| Kolli on 18:32 - Jan 5 with 1970 views | T_Block |
No-but you have to get it right little by little as a few poor games and young lads can go backwards quickly.
Having said that both are pretty strong characters-Morgan impressed me after those mistakes against Norwich-just kept on asking for the ball…..
Both knocking on the door.
Given the last 10 years ,bar Ebere,very encouraging times.Our scouts got Morgan right,and Ryan self -belief is important.
I find myself ,as I get older really wanting them to do well.Nothing better than a young kid coming through.I remember Les arriving.Couldn’t trap a ball-it use to bounce off him.Then 5 years later England centre forward. | | | |
| Kolli on 19:31 - Jan 5 with 1786 views | Northolt_Rs |
He’s one of our own! 💙🤍💙🤍💪🏼 |  |
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| Kolli on 19:42 - Jan 5 with 1683 views | stainrods_elbow |
It's actually 7 in 37 apps, in all comps.
His two goals, after he'd been having a terrible game, were really rousing stuff, and really dug the team out of what was a bit of a ropey 2nd half. Less importantly, he also shoved my own words about him on the match thread down my throat.
He's hardly got a lot of competition up front with the possibly outgoing Frey, but I hope he grabs his chance now he's shown what he can do. |  |
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| Kolli on 20:17 - Jan 5 with 1608 views | 1JD |
| Kolli on 19:42 - Jan 5 by stainrods_elbow |
It's actually 7 in 37 apps, in all comps.
His two goals, after he'd been having a terrible game, were really rousing stuff, and really dug the team out of what was a bit of a ropey 2nd half. Less importantly, he also shoved my own words about him on the match thread down my throat.
He's hardly got a lot of competition up front with the possibly outgoing Frey, but I hope he grabs his chance now he's shown what he can do. |
7 in 37 apps is nonsense. As was articulated to you on another thread.
He’s got more like 7 in 14 games in terms of total minutes.
Or 1 in 2, for a lad who is only 20, been here since 8 years old, not even been out on loan to lower leagues, and genuinely is one of our own. | | | |
| Kolli on 20:32 - Jan 5 with 1565 views | Padulas_Shampoo |
| Kolli on 19:42 - Jan 5 by stainrods_elbow |
It's actually 7 in 37 apps, in all comps.
His two goals, after he'd been having a terrible game, were really rousing stuff, and really dug the team out of what was a bit of a ropey 2nd half. Less importantly, he also shoved my own words about him on the match thread down my throat.
He's hardly got a lot of competition up front with the possibly outgoing Frey, but I hope he grabs his chance now he's shown what he can do. |
Kolli 1,455 minutes for QPR, 8 goals. Goal every 181 minutes.
Kone 1,763 minutes, 5 goals. Goal every 352 minutes.
Burrell 1,890, 10 goals. Goal every 189 minutes.
As 1JD says - completely unfair to list Kolli’s goals per games appeared in. He has a better goals per minute ratio than anyone at the club. He’s scored more often than Burrell. |  | | |
| Kolli on 21:12 - Jan 5 with 1431 views | daveB |
| Kolli on 19:42 - Jan 5 by stainrods_elbow |
It's actually 7 in 37 apps, in all comps.
His two goals, after he'd been having a terrible game, were really rousing stuff, and really dug the team out of what was a bit of a ropey 2nd half. Less importantly, he also shoved my own words about him on the match thread down my throat.
He's hardly got a lot of competition up front with the possibly outgoing Frey, but I hope he grabs his chance now he's shown what he can do. |
Those 7 goals have come in just 12 starts though, 28 subs appearances for him so far. |  | | |
| Kolli on 23:47 - Jan 5 with 1205 views | nix |
I don’t think the club or the last two managers have just refused to pick him just to be contrary. I understood he’s had a succession of injuries. He was definitely injured for a lot of last season, Stephan said he’s been injured for the last month and I think he said he’s had some physical issues since the beginning of the season that needed to be sorted.
I know it’s frustrating but it also makes sense to bring him back slowly and limit his minutes given that players often get injured again with niggles after a long lay off: Poku and JCS (I know, I know..) being cases in point. After the early part of the season you couldn’t really drop Burrell and Kone who started so well. Maybe a bit weird that Frey was given a number of opportunities from the bench but I guess Stephan had seen he was our top scorer last season and wanted to give him the chances to get back up to (relative) speed. That hasn’t happened unfortunately.
I still think they may be a bit careful with Kolli and try not to overplay him. Possibly this will be Bennie’s chance to get some minutes while it looks like Burrell is out of action for a while.
Hopefully we’ll continue a recent trend of not relying so much on Burrell and Kone scoring with Morgan, Dembele, Mbengue, Dunne, Saito and Madsen as well as Kolli all contributing recently. |  | | |
| Kolli on 00:00 - Jan 6 with 1164 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Kolli on 20:17 - Jan 5 by 1JD |
7 in 37 apps is nonsense. As was articulated to you on another thread.
He’s got more like 7 in 14 games in terms of total minutes.
Or 1 in 2, for a lad who is only 20, been here since 8 years old, not even been out on loan to lower leagues, and genuinely is one of our own. |
I've taken that data from Transfer Markt, Wiki, and included sub apps, and talk to me first/ get your own facts right before you try to bpatronise me.
Far more important than your tediousness is we have a talent on our books if we handle him right. [Post edited 6 Jan 0:02]
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| Kolli on 00:06 - Jan 6 with 1159 views | simmo |
| Kolli on 00:00 - Jan 6 by stainrods_elbow |
I've taken that data from Transfer Markt, Wiki, and included sub apps, and talk to me first/ get your own facts right before you try to bpatronise me.
Far more important than your tediousness is we have a talent on our books if we handle him right. [Post edited 6 Jan 0:02]
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Are you still a thing... Even you must be a little bored of your own shite by now? |  |
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| Kolli on 00:12 - Jan 6 with 1126 views | stainrods_elbow |
I'm certainly bored of you - how sad are you to try to belittle people you don't even know! | |
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| Kolli on 00:43 - Jan 6 with 1092 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Kolli on 23:47 - Jan 5 by nix |
I don’t think the club or the last two managers have just refused to pick him just to be contrary. I understood he’s had a succession of injuries. He was definitely injured for a lot of last season, Stephan said he’s been injured for the last month and I think he said he’s had some physical issues since the beginning of the season that needed to be sorted.
I know it’s frustrating but it also makes sense to bring him back slowly and limit his minutes given that players often get injured again with niggles after a long lay off: Poku and JCS (I know, I know..) being cases in point. After the early part of the season you couldn’t really drop Burrell and Kone who started so well. Maybe a bit weird that Frey was given a number of opportunities from the bench but I guess Stephan had seen he was our top scorer last season and wanted to give him the chances to get back up to (relative) speed. That hasn’t happened unfortunately.
I still think they may be a bit careful with Kolli and try not to overplay him. Possibly this will be Bennie’s chance to get some minutes while it looks like Burrell is out of action for a while.
Hopefully we’ll continue a recent trend of not relying so much on Burrell and Kone scoring with Morgan, Dembele, Mbengue, Dunne, Saito and Madsen as well as Kolli all contributing recently. |
I agree with all of that, Nix. It makes sense in a logical world.
But (and didn't you just know there was a 'but'!) after Sunday I'm even more sceptical about Kolli's recent 'injury'. Sunday was just weird.
If a player is coming back from a genuine injury, and not a contract/personality/transfer-related injury, and has been out long term, returns on Jan 1st for 20 minutes off the bench, the next step is surely 30 minutes, or 40 minutes.
Instead, only three days later, after 20 minutes Burrell goes down, the management reach for Kolli to play 70-80 minutes. That's a gigantic step up for a supposedly-injured player.
Attackers on the bench at the time were Dembéle, Bennie, Smyth, even Field who'd played there in the last game. Or the formation could be tweaked.
To bypass all of them and to put Kolli's number up makes no sense to me. If he was injured, that is. |  |
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| Kolli on 01:12 - Jan 6 with 1033 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Kolli on 00:43 - Jan 6 by BrianMcCarthy |
I agree with all of that, Nix. It makes sense in a logical world.
But (and didn't you just know there was a 'but'!) after Sunday I'm even more sceptical about Kolli's recent 'injury'. Sunday was just weird.
If a player is coming back from a genuine injury, and not a contract/personality/transfer-related injury, and has been out long term, returns on Jan 1st for 20 minutes off the bench, the next step is surely 30 minutes, or 40 minutes.
Instead, only three days later, after 20 minutes Burrell goes down, the management reach for Kolli to play 70-80 minutes. That's a gigantic step up for a supposedly-injured player.
Attackers on the bench at the time were Dembéle, Bennie, Smyth, even Field who'd played there in the last game. Or the formation could be tweaked.
To bypass all of them and to put Kolli's number up makes no sense to me. If he was injured, that is. |
JS said afterwards that he'd been on the grass for a week or two, but just not done many sessions. Hence, he asked him if he needed to come off toward the end, but fortunately he didn't. | |
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| Kolli on 07:20 - Jan 6 with 924 views | joe90 |
| Kolli on 01:12 - Jan 6 by stainrods_elbow |
JS said afterwards that he'd been on the grass for a week or two, but just not done many sessions. Hence, he asked him if he needed to come off toward the end, but fortunately he didn't. |
After the final whistle he was stretching his calf’s, you could see the game had taken its toll. To be fair, looked like everyone out there was struggling. It was an unusual game and as good as the two goals were, I wouldn’t get too excited just yet.
More than anything he needs to stay fit and get regular game time. You can see he has the raw ingredients but no amount of training will make up for game time.
Hopefully he’ll play on Sunday. |  | | |
| Kolli on 08:54 - Jan 6 with 811 views | nix |
| Kolli on 00:43 - Jan 6 by BrianMcCarthy |
I agree with all of that, Nix. It makes sense in a logical world.
But (and didn't you just know there was a 'but'!) after Sunday I'm even more sceptical about Kolli's recent 'injury'. Sunday was just weird.
If a player is coming back from a genuine injury, and not a contract/personality/transfer-related injury, and has been out long term, returns on Jan 1st for 20 minutes off the bench, the next step is surely 30 minutes, or 40 minutes.
Instead, only three days later, after 20 minutes Burrell goes down, the management reach for Kolli to play 70-80 minutes. That's a gigantic step up for a supposedly-injured player.
Attackers on the bench at the time were Dembéle, Bennie, Smyth, even Field who'd played there in the last game. Or the formation could be tweaked.
To bypass all of them and to put Kolli's number up makes no sense to me. If he was injured, that is. |
I know Brian it’s a bit weird. But I think he was definitely injured a lot last season. When I went to the training ground he was in the gym on his own, looking like he was having some individual rehab.
As for this season do you think Stephane would actually lie in interviews about injuries? Fair enough if you do. Doesn’t really seem his style but anything’s possible. If he’s just not being played that’s incredibly frustrating for everyone. I just don’t know. I mean I can understand someone being dropped for a couple of matches for disciplinary reasons but for months? I’m not sure. Maybe if he’s not training well?
If it is true then I think we don’t have any choice but to play him now.
Another thing is it’s frustrating about Burrell. I don’t buy all the ‘they used to manage in the 70 s playing 50:games a season’ schtick that’s passed as fact round here. One of the things is they’ve often said they’ve played with injections coming out of their wazoos and ended up often hobbling in middle age - Gerry Francis can hardly walk these days. That just wouldn’t be allowed now and quite right too. But also the game is played at a much faster pace and players have to do much more pressing, particularly Burrell. I was the least surprised ever when Burrell picked up a hamstring injury. I’d be disappointed if they long term flogged Burrell just to punish Kolli. | | | |
| Kolli on 09:08 - Jan 6 with 753 views | 1JD |
| Kolli on 00:00 - Jan 6 by stainrods_elbow |
I've taken that data from Transfer Markt, Wiki, and included sub apps, and talk to me first/ get your own facts right before you try to bpatronise me.
Far more important than your tediousness is we have a talent on our books if we handle him right. [Post edited 6 Jan 0:02]
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No. You doubled down your prior point made on another thread that you don’t rate him by pointing out how many goals to appearances he has made. But the flaw in the data, that you conveniently omitted (get your facts right) is that they are not full appearances, so the data is extremely misleading. When reviewed under 90-match day minutes blocks, it’s a goal every other game. Statistics for his age which are outstanding. | | | |
| Kolli on 10:07 - Jan 6 with 599 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Kolli on 08:54 - Jan 6 by nix |
I know Brian it’s a bit weird. But I think he was definitely injured a lot last season. When I went to the training ground he was in the gym on his own, looking like he was having some individual rehab.
As for this season do you think Stephane would actually lie in interviews about injuries? Fair enough if you do. Doesn’t really seem his style but anything’s possible. If he’s just not being played that’s incredibly frustrating for everyone. I just don’t know. I mean I can understand someone being dropped for a couple of matches for disciplinary reasons but for months? I’m not sure. Maybe if he’s not training well?
If it is true then I think we don’t have any choice but to play him now.
Another thing is it’s frustrating about Burrell. I don’t buy all the ‘they used to manage in the 70 s playing 50:games a season’ schtick that’s passed as fact round here. One of the things is they’ve often said they’ve played with injections coming out of their wazoos and ended up often hobbling in middle age - Gerry Francis can hardly walk these days. That just wouldn’t be allowed now and quite right too. But also the game is played at a much faster pace and players have to do much more pressing, particularly Burrell. I was the least surprised ever when Burrell picked up a hamstring injury. I’d be disappointed if they long term flogged Burrell just to punish Kolli. |
"As for this season do you think Stephane would actually lie in interviews about injuries?"
Well, I think it's one of the possibilities, for sure, Nix.
Managers lie all the time, and it's not always a bad thing either. They cover for players going through personal issues, for instance. Sometimes a good lie is better than a bad truth.
And, yes, I think players could be withdrawn for contract/transfer reasons.
I don't know the truth in this case, I just thought Sunday was incredibly odd. I agree with you that they wouldn't flog Burrell just to punish Kolli, but they could equally have given Frey or Bennie more game-time in Burrell's stead if they thought there was a risk of injury and they chose not to do that either. | |
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| Kolli on 10:39 - Jan 6 with 550 views | numptydumpty |
| Kolli on 10:07 - Jan 6 by BrianMcCarthy |
"As for this season do you think Stephane would actually lie in interviews about injuries?"
Well, I think it's one of the possibilities, for sure, Nix.
Managers lie all the time, and it's not always a bad thing either. They cover for players going through personal issues, for instance. Sometimes a good lie is better than a bad truth.
And, yes, I think players could be withdrawn for contract/transfer reasons.
I don't know the truth in this case, I just thought Sunday was incredibly odd. I agree with you that they wouldn't flog Burrell just to punish Kolli, but they could equally have given Frey or Bennie more game-time in Burrell's stead if they thought there was a risk of injury and they chose not to do that either. |
Great shame re Burrell, particularly as I would have hoped he could have had a run out against West Ham in the cup, but sadly inevitable in the end, regards him picking up an injury. Where was our sports science and protecting a player at being overplayed here. The advice of our performance Director, Ben Williams seems to have been bypassed regards Rumarn, simply because he was too important a player for us, in games.
Certainly was overplayed.
As you say Brian regards the not playing of Kolli, whether he was injured throughout or not selected for alternative reasons, we won't be told. Clubs can be very economical with the truth on such occasions and I guess can understand that in certain circumstances as you intimate also.
I know a few on here, who have considered themselves in the know, alleged they had first hand knowledge of a disagreement between Kolli and Ben Williams in the club canteen, where Kolli argued with Williams, where Williams was reported by some on here to say, whilst I am here, you won't get an opportunity to play here.
Now, whether this was allegations not backed up by fact, or indeed was true, in reality such an incident should have zero bearing on whether a player is selected or not, but there was a few on here, that were very vociferous about this, and said it was the reality of the situation.
Whether this happened or not, I can't believe at all, that this had any bearing on Kolli's non selection. If it did, then we are very amateurish in our running of our club. Any workplace, employees clash inevitably on occasions, and its then up to the management and others to all work together to minimise such impacts and resolve it as best as it can be, so that all colleagues perform as best they can, and a few words in the heat of the moment, can be forgotten about, everyone shakes hands and people move on.
Although, its clear, there must be some reason Rayan was not selected over Frey in recent times, but its unlikely we will ever know.
Anyhow, am glad he got on the pitch and pleased for him, he took his chances.
Let's all see how this all pans out. [Post edited 6 Jan 10:43]
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| Kolli on 10:44 - Jan 6 with 536 views | nix |
| Kolli on 10:07 - Jan 6 by BrianMcCarthy |
"As for this season do you think Stephane would actually lie in interviews about injuries?"
Well, I think it's one of the possibilities, for sure, Nix.
Managers lie all the time, and it's not always a bad thing either. They cover for players going through personal issues, for instance. Sometimes a good lie is better than a bad truth.
And, yes, I think players could be withdrawn for contract/transfer reasons.
I don't know the truth in this case, I just thought Sunday was incredibly odd. I agree with you that they wouldn't flog Burrell just to punish Kolli, but they could equally have given Frey or Bennie more game-time in Burrell's stead if they thought there was a risk of injury and they chose not to do that either. |
Fair points Brian.
Yeah, so annoying that they didn’t give Burrell a break with some of the aforementioned. I just think there’s always a risk of injury with someone who’s got pace and makes a lot of runs in matches when there are lots of games close together.
If they were deliberately not playing Kolli let’s hope his reappearance means whatever the problem was is now sorted. And maybe that Bennie gets some minutes. | | | |
| Kolli on 10:52 - Jan 6 with 515 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Kolli on 10:44 - Jan 6 by nix |
Fair points Brian.
Yeah, so annoying that they didn’t give Burrell a break with some of the aforementioned. I just think there’s always a risk of injury with someone who’s got pace and makes a lot of runs in matches when there are lots of games close together.
If they were deliberately not playing Kolli let’s hope his reappearance means whatever the problem was is now sorted. And maybe that Bennie gets some minutes. |
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| Kolli on 10:55 - Jan 6 with 500 views | NewYorkRanger |
| Kolli on 00:06 - Jan 6 by simmo |
Are you still a thing... Even you must be a little bored of your own shite by now? |
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| Kolli on 11:58 - Jan 6 with 403 views | nick_hammersmith |
| Kolli on 20:17 - Jan 5 by 1JD |
7 in 37 apps is nonsense. As was articulated to you on another thread.
He’s got more like 7 in 14 games in terms of total minutes.
Or 1 in 2, for a lad who is only 20, been here since 8 years old, not even been out on loan to lower leagues, and genuinely is one of our own. |
Wasn't that one of the issues, didn't he turn down a loan move before? |  | | |
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