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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden 19:10 - Sep 15 with 9646 viewsAnotherJohn

It looks as though the left wing opposition will win the Swedish election. The present Government, which seemed to be getting a grip on immigration, crime and social cohesion will now lose power. They will have lost the election by only about 30,000 votes, less than new citizenship applications allowed in the recent past. Immigrants now make up about 18% of the electorate. In high immigrant areas like Rosengård Centrum in Malmö the left got over 95% of the vote. So it could be argued that demographic change has determined the result and what is possible in terms of future public policy.

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Has Sweden reached the point of no return? Is this also the UK's future?
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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 10:23 - Sep 21 with 1542 viewstrampie

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 09:50 - Sep 21 by Demitrius

Nah..post all you want and we will continue to laugh at and be entertained by your asinine , bigoted insular rubbish...
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AI take :- "National identity strongly shapes voting behavior in Wales, with those identifying primarily as Welsh tending to lean more left-wing or nationalist, while those identifying as British lean more right-wing."

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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 10:34 - Sep 21 with 1518 viewsunion_jack

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 17:21 - Sep 20 by trampie

Why would anybody not want to converse with me ?, I can't see why not, but if that is the case why tell other posters not to converse with me also ?

No Killykenny, no Controversial, this place will be a unionist right wing echo chamber with everybody else not like minded driven away ?


“No Killykenny, no Controversial, this place will be a unionist right wing echo chamber with everybody else not like minded driven away ?”

You say this as if it’s a bad thing

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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 10:37 - Sep 21 with 1509 viewsonehunglow

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 10:34 - Sep 21 by union_jack

“No Killykenny, no Controversial, this place will be a unionist right wing echo chamber with everybody else not like minded driven away ?”

You say this as if it’s a bad thing


Controversial post

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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 15:17 - Sep 21 with 1426 viewsSullutaCreturned

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 17:11 - Sep 20 by trampie

Why do people get abusive and name calling then ?, that happens when they have no answer does it not.


That is sometimes true but someone calling you a name doesn't automatically make you right.
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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 15:25 - Sep 21 with 1413 viewsSullutaCreturned

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 17:31 - Sep 20 by trampie

People don't tell me I'm wrong ?, wrong about what ?

Not agreeing with somebody doesn't mean they are wrong, I think Jimmy Greaves was England's best every goalscorer, its an opinion it's not a case of right or wrong.
I think the first time round the Swans made the top tier they had better individual players than the second time round they made the top tier, there is no right or wrong about holding an option.


An opinion about something is different to claiming something as a fact when it's not a fact, like when you claimed other parts of these islands belonged to Wales, most definitely not a fact and most definitely wrong, as I told you.

Nothing can belong to a thing that didn't yet exist.

People can still think your opinion is wrong but that's a matter of debate.
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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 15:55 - Sep 21 with 1390 viewsDemitrius

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 10:01 - Sep 21 by onehunglow

Trampie is like a car crash where we see rubber neckers
You know you shouldn’t but just can’t help yourself
It took me a long time to keep him on
Perma ignore
He is racist in its pure form
Same with Res
What is it about Welsh valleys that produces this

O read the Welsh are genetically different to the English
That means I’m in a mixed race relationship for fifty years and have mixed race children and grandkids
I would however love to meet him in the flesh


So would I

He's either 15 and naive or 72 and daft

It's difficult to tell
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“Cunnilingus and Psychiatry brought us to this …”

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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 16:13 - Sep 21 with 1363 viewstrampie

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 15:25 - Sep 21 by SullutaCreturned

An opinion about something is different to claiming something as a fact when it's not a fact, like when you claimed other parts of these islands belonged to Wales, most definitely not a fact and most definitely wrong, as I told you.

Nothing can belong to a thing that didn't yet exist.

People can still think your opinion is wrong but that's a matter of debate.


Wow you took that literally

I asked AI 'were the Ancient Britons Welsh ?' And it said :- Yes, the modern Welsh are the direct cultural and genetic descendants of the ancient Celtic Britons who inhabited the island of Britain before the arrival of the Romans and Anglo-Saxons.

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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 16:16 - Sep 21 with 1354 viewsonehunglow

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 15:55 - Sep 21 by Demitrius

So would I

He's either 15 and naive or 72 and daft

It's difficult to tell
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Res Trampie and me would be the most interesting threesone since those sisters I told you about



Cogito ergo sum
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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 10:07 - Oct 3 with 958 viewstrampie

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 23:51 - Sep 16 by ncswan

Umm... Let's look at what you're claiming: Immigrants, in a lot of cases, who enter a country legally can be the most racist because they don't want more immigrants let in the country, legally or illegally?

That's not correct, at least not here in the US. LEGAL immigrants are proud that they entered the US LEGALLY. They, like President Trump, welcome all immigrants who enter the US LEGALLY. They and Pres Trump don't want immigrants to enter (happy to lift the drawbridge up) the US ILLEGALLY. There's no racism in keeping ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS from entering the US ILLEGALLY.

We want to keep the US SAFE from bad immigrants who might commit crimes against LEGAL CITIZENS and LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. LEGAL IMMIGRATION is also good for the US economy, in that LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, more often than not, don't need government assistance, contribute to the economy by being gainfully employed and paying taxes, have learned to speak English, and are more apt to obey OUR EXISTING US LAWS and not continue with their laws and customs. LEGAL IMMIGRANTS are more apt to assimilate into the US population. LEGAL IMMIGRATION has nothing to do with RACISM.

Are you trying to play the RACE CARD here?
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That is what you responded too :- " Immigrants can be the most racist people you meet in the sense that in a lot of cases once they get in they are happy to lift the drawbridge up, you see it in this country as well".
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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 13:06 - Oct 3 with 921 viewsSullutaCreturned

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 16:13 - Sep 21 by trampie

Wow you took that literally

I asked AI 'were the Ancient Britons Welsh ?' And it said :- Yes, the modern Welsh are the direct cultural and genetic descendants of the ancient Celtic Britons who inhabited the island of Britain before the arrival of the Romans and Anglo-Saxons.


Obviusly you're right, I should treat all your posts as nonsense because they are!

You do realise that Ai isn't trustworthy and often gives wrong answers because it collates its answers from things posted on the internet?

AI should also say the Welsh are descended from ancient britons but not that ancient britons were Welsh, because they weren't, they were Celts and there were no Welsh people or a Welsh country. it's a tad pedantic I know but facts amnd the truth matter, especially when people try to spin facts to support their world view.
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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 17:34 - Oct 3 with 878 viewsncswan

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 10:07 - Oct 3 by trampie



That is what you responded too :- " Immigrants can be the most racist people you meet in the sense that in a lot of cases once they get in they are happy to lift the drawbridge up, you see it in this country as well".
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Again, your attempt to slightly turn what someone has said into a talking point that has no bearing on the original talking point is illustrated here. This video clip has nothing to do with what I was saying.

What I originally stated: When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 21:08 - Sep 16 by ncswan

In the US, a lot of the strongest conservatives and Trump supporters due to his successful border/illegal immigration control, are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, especially of the Hispanic persuasion.

What you (Trampie) replied to my comment on Sept 16 timestamped at 21:45:

Immigrants can be the most racist people you meet in the sense that in a lot of cases once they get in they are happy to lift the drawbridge up, you see it in this country as well.

I then replied (within the quotation marks) to your reply on Sept 16 timestamped @ 23:51:

"Umm... Let's look at what you're claiming: Immigrants, in a lot of cases, who enter a country legally can be the most racist because they don't want more immigrants let in the country, legally or illegally?

That's not correct, at least not here in the US. LEGAL immigrants are proud that they entered the US LEGALLY. They, like President Trump, welcome all immigrants who enter the US LEGALLY. They and Pres Trump don't want immigrants to enter (happy to lift the drawbridge up) the US ILLEGALLY. There's no racism in keeping ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS from entering the US ILLEGALLY.

We want to keep the US SAFE from bad immigrants who might commit crimes against LEGAL CITIZENS and LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. LEGAL IMMIGRATION is also good for the US economy, in that LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, more often than not, don't need government assistance, contribute to the economy by being gainfully employed and paying taxes, have learned to speak English, and are more apt to obey OUR EXISTING US LAWS and not continue with their laws and customs. LEGAL IMMIGRANTS are more apt to assimilate into the US population. LEGAL IMMIGRATION has nothing to do with RACISM.

Are you trying to play the RACE CARD here?"

Then you tried to twist your original reply to a followup I posted on Sept 17 timestamped @ 18:47 where I posed a simple question to you, "Are you saying that if you oppose, if you're against ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, then you're a racist?":

Your reply: from Trampie on Sept 17 @ 19:24 - "The USA is said to be only 250 years old and is said to be a country full of immigrants, Brirain is thousands of years old and historically is not seen a be a country full of immigrants, perhaps that is why you don't understand."

Again, I blasted your post by pointing out that your original post's use of the word "historically" had nothing to do with anything you stated before and was incorrect in context. What I stated in reply to your post on Sept 17 @ 20:43:

"By the way, Great Britain is recognized as a country full of immigrants due to their colonial ventures, especially in South Asia, Middle East, and Africa. Most are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS; however, more ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are being allowed to come into your country.

From Google AI - According to data from the Office for National Statistics, roughly one in six people living in England and Wales was born abroad. This represents a higher proportion of foreign-born residents than in the United States."

Trampie, again, you're nothing but a disingenuous, pathetical poster, who tries to get away with SHITE by twisting your words to support your inexcusable and incorrect earlier posts. You are definitely a time waster for me.

I apologize to other readers for the length of my posts here but I don't have any use or time for Trampie's disingenuity. I am trying to shine a light on him for who and what he is.
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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 17:53 - Oct 3 with 873 viewsSullutaCreturned

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 10:07 - Oct 3 by trampie



That is what you responded too :- " Immigrants can be the most racist people you meet in the sense that in a lot of cases once they get in they are happy to lift the drawbridge up, you see it in this country as well".
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So Suella Braverman doesn't consider herslef English despite being born there (well half English/half irish) so does that mean she's going to deport herself
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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 11:59 - Oct 5 with 738 viewstrampie

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 17:34 - Oct 3 by ncswan

Again, your attempt to slightly turn what someone has said into a talking point that has no bearing on the original talking point is illustrated here. This video clip has nothing to do with what I was saying.

What I originally stated: When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 21:08 - Sep 16 by ncswan

In the US, a lot of the strongest conservatives and Trump supporters due to his successful border/illegal immigration control, are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, especially of the Hispanic persuasion.

What you (Trampie) replied to my comment on Sept 16 timestamped at 21:45:

Immigrants can be the most racist people you meet in the sense that in a lot of cases once they get in they are happy to lift the drawbridge up, you see it in this country as well.

I then replied (within the quotation marks) to your reply on Sept 16 timestamped @ 23:51:

"Umm... Let's look at what you're claiming: Immigrants, in a lot of cases, who enter a country legally can be the most racist because they don't want more immigrants let in the country, legally or illegally?

That's not correct, at least not here in the US. LEGAL immigrants are proud that they entered the US LEGALLY. They, like President Trump, welcome all immigrants who enter the US LEGALLY. They and Pres Trump don't want immigrants to enter (happy to lift the drawbridge up) the US ILLEGALLY. There's no racism in keeping ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS from entering the US ILLEGALLY.

We want to keep the US SAFE from bad immigrants who might commit crimes against LEGAL CITIZENS and LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. LEGAL IMMIGRATION is also good for the US economy, in that LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, more often than not, don't need government assistance, contribute to the economy by being gainfully employed and paying taxes, have learned to speak English, and are more apt to obey OUR EXISTING US LAWS and not continue with their laws and customs. LEGAL IMMIGRANTS are more apt to assimilate into the US population. LEGAL IMMIGRATION has nothing to do with RACISM.

Are you trying to play the RACE CARD here?"

Then you tried to twist your original reply to a followup I posted on Sept 17 timestamped @ 18:47 where I posed a simple question to you, "Are you saying that if you oppose, if you're against ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, then you're a racist?":

Your reply: from Trampie on Sept 17 @ 19:24 - "The USA is said to be only 250 years old and is said to be a country full of immigrants, Brirain is thousands of years old and historically is not seen a be a country full of immigrants, perhaps that is why you don't understand."

Again, I blasted your post by pointing out that your original post's use of the word "historically" had nothing to do with anything you stated before and was incorrect in context. What I stated in reply to your post on Sept 17 @ 20:43:

"By the way, Great Britain is recognized as a country full of immigrants due to their colonial ventures, especially in South Asia, Middle East, and Africa. Most are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS; however, more ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are being allowed to come into your country.

From Google AI - According to data from the Office for National Statistics, roughly one in six people living in England and Wales was born abroad. This represents a higher proportion of foreign-born residents than in the United States."

Trampie, again, you're nothing but a disingenuous, pathetical poster, who tries to get away with SHITE by twisting your words to support your inexcusable and incorrect earlier posts. You are definitely a time waster for me.

I apologize to other readers for the length of my posts here but I don't have any use or time for Trampie's disingenuity. I am trying to shine a light on him for who and what he is.


Pulling up the ladder behind them was the phrase used in the video before that phrase was used in the video I used the phrase "in a lot of cases once they get in they are happy to pull up the drawbridge".

There seems to be loads of people of foreign descent in these right wing parties like Reform, Advance (if they are still about), Tommy Robinson crowd etc, seen it somewhere that Trump has got some Hispanic type supporters, the irony is not lost on me.
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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 12:02 - Oct 5 with 734 viewstrampie

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 17:53 - Oct 3 by SullutaCreturned

So Suella Braverman doesn't consider herslef English despite being born there (well half English/half irish) so does that mean she's going to deport herself


They want to be British but not English

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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 13:22 - Oct 5 with 698 viewsonehunglow

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 17:34 - Oct 3 by ncswan

Again, your attempt to slightly turn what someone has said into a talking point that has no bearing on the original talking point is illustrated here. This video clip has nothing to do with what I was saying.

What I originally stated: When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 21:08 - Sep 16 by ncswan

In the US, a lot of the strongest conservatives and Trump supporters due to his successful border/illegal immigration control, are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, especially of the Hispanic persuasion.

What you (Trampie) replied to my comment on Sept 16 timestamped at 21:45:

Immigrants can be the most racist people you meet in the sense that in a lot of cases once they get in they are happy to lift the drawbridge up, you see it in this country as well.

I then replied (within the quotation marks) to your reply on Sept 16 timestamped @ 23:51:

"Umm... Let's look at what you're claiming: Immigrants, in a lot of cases, who enter a country legally can be the most racist because they don't want more immigrants let in the country, legally or illegally?

That's not correct, at least not here in the US. LEGAL immigrants are proud that they entered the US LEGALLY. They, like President Trump, welcome all immigrants who enter the US LEGALLY. They and Pres Trump don't want immigrants to enter (happy to lift the drawbridge up) the US ILLEGALLY. There's no racism in keeping ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS from entering the US ILLEGALLY.

We want to keep the US SAFE from bad immigrants who might commit crimes against LEGAL CITIZENS and LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. LEGAL IMMIGRATION is also good for the US economy, in that LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, more often than not, don't need government assistance, contribute to the economy by being gainfully employed and paying taxes, have learned to speak English, and are more apt to obey OUR EXISTING US LAWS and not continue with their laws and customs. LEGAL IMMIGRANTS are more apt to assimilate into the US population. LEGAL IMMIGRATION has nothing to do with RACISM.

Are you trying to play the RACE CARD here?"

Then you tried to twist your original reply to a followup I posted on Sept 17 timestamped @ 18:47 where I posed a simple question to you, "Are you saying that if you oppose, if you're against ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, then you're a racist?":

Your reply: from Trampie on Sept 17 @ 19:24 - "The USA is said to be only 250 years old and is said to be a country full of immigrants, Brirain is thousands of years old and historically is not seen a be a country full of immigrants, perhaps that is why you don't understand."

Again, I blasted your post by pointing out that your original post's use of the word "historically" had nothing to do with anything you stated before and was incorrect in context. What I stated in reply to your post on Sept 17 @ 20:43:

"By the way, Great Britain is recognized as a country full of immigrants due to their colonial ventures, especially in South Asia, Middle East, and Africa. Most are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS; however, more ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are being allowed to come into your country.

From Google AI - According to data from the Office for National Statistics, roughly one in six people living in England and Wales was born abroad. This represents a higher proportion of foreign-born residents than in the United States."

Trampie, again, you're nothing but a disingenuous, pathetical poster, who tries to get away with SHITE by twisting your words to support your inexcusable and incorrect earlier posts. You are definitely a time waster for me.

I apologize to other readers for the length of my posts here but I don't have any use or time for Trampie's disingenuity. I am trying to shine a light on him for who and what he is.


We’ve disagreed many times but you’ve utterly owned this deeply dangerous poster

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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 13:43 - Oct 5 with 684 viewstrampie

I didnt know that Suella real name is Sue Ellen, named after an American soap opera character.

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When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 13:55 - Oct 5 with 675 viewsncswan

When a country reaches the point of no return? The case of Sweden on 13:22 - Oct 5 by onehunglow

We’ve disagreed many times but you’ve utterly owned this deeply dangerous poster


Thanks, OHL, I actually admire your prose-like posts! Makes me think and re-read to make sure I understand what you're trying to point out or say.

I get frustrated sometimes with certain posters' spelling & grammar but have learned to "read on" and interpret as best I can. Yours is generally good.
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