| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want 17:30 - Oct 19 with 370 views | KeithHaynes |
Is in Cambridge Crown for a series of charges.
Nice adult points of view please, it is after all current news. |  |
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| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 17:35 - Oct 19 with 352 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I don’t understand how he can possibly claim with a straight face that he didn’t attempt to murder the 14 people he plunged a knife into.
His defence are taking the piss. |  |
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| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 19:11 - Oct 19 with 235 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
A long list of serious offences admitted to, looks like the defence were trying to avoid the attempted murder charges?
https://news.sky.com/story/man |  |
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| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 20:12 - Oct 19 with 180 views | SullutaCreturned |
With that many charges and all the attempted murder, if he's found guilty (how could he not be...waits for the mental health defence!) he should never come out of prison, but then, how many of his sentences will be set to run concurrently.
I'll say this too, concurrent sentences atre a complete cop out (excuse the pun) and should never, ever be used again. Do the crime, do the time, all of it. We need more prisons for serious criminals. |  | | |
| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 20:16 - Oct 19 with 177 views | onehunglow |
| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 17:35 - Oct 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
I don’t understand how he can possibly claim with a straight face that he didn’t attempt to murder the 14 people he plunged a knife into.
His defence are taking the piss. |
“ everyone is entitled to the best defence possible”
Our former barrister contributor posted that
I’ve been “ hammered” before for saying this But I shall repeat…
Lawyers have to leave any moral scruples out of their work
They have to refuse to defend if they believe client is guilty
Nevertheless , they will look for any mitigation to keep murderers like this on the loose or released
If case fails on legal technicality then they will have no quarms at all because it’s the fault of someone else
A job for special people , as I’ve said
Special | |
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| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 20:23 - Oct 19 with 169 views | union_jack |
| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 20:12 - Oct 19 by SullutaCreturned |
With that many charges and all the attempted murder, if he's found guilty (how could he not be...waits for the mental health defence!) he should never come out of prison, but then, how many of his sentences will be set to run concurrently.
I'll say this too, concurrent sentences atre a complete cop out (excuse the pun) and should never, ever be used again. Do the crime, do the time, all of it. We need more prisons for serious criminals. |
Totally agree on this concurrent sentence issue. At the least, the very least an added crime should add extra years, a third more again and so on. Why should they worry anyway, they’ll be let out on early release to accommodate the hurty word villains! |  |
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| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 20:25 - Oct 19 with 167 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 20:16 - Oct 19 by onehunglow |
“ everyone is entitled to the best defence possible”
Our former barrister contributor posted that
I’ve been “ hammered” before for saying this But I shall repeat…
Lawyers have to leave any moral scruples out of their work
They have to refuse to defend if they believe client is guilty
Nevertheless , they will look for any mitigation to keep murderers like this on the loose or released
If case fails on legal technicality then they will have no quarms at all because it’s the fault of someone else
A job for special people , as I’ve said
Special |
The whole point is they get that defence so it is proved beyond a reasonable doubt. If they don't get a defence then innocent people will end up in prison.
The poster you refer too is a very good person, a very nice person. How our legal system is set up is not his fault and he does the best job he can within it. | | | |
| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 21:35 - Oct 19 with 108 views | onehunglow |
| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 20:25 - Oct 19 by SullutaCreturned |
The whole point is they get that defence so it is proved beyond a reasonable doubt. If they don't get a defence then innocent people will end up in prison.
The poster you refer too is a very good person, a very nice person. How our legal system is set up is not his fault and he does the best job he can within it. |
Read what I posted
How would you defend the Southport child killer ?
I said they are special
I meant it
They have no time to take moral stands
I bought him lunch at Blackpool
They can’t afford to be “ nice” in court which is my point
Finally, more guilty walk free than innocent are convicted
Professional criminals will never “ cough” as it’s their business
Their moral code is different
It’s about finding loopholes
If insuccessful then we have the appeals circus
If that fails , local MP to bleed over
They take us for mugs
I’m out of here as I’ve become cross | |
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| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 23:11 - Oct 19 with 50 views | majorraglan |
| Okay I’ll post it. Call him what you want on 20:12 - Oct 19 by SullutaCreturned |
With that many charges and all the attempted murder, if he's found guilty (how could he not be...waits for the mental health defence!) he should never come out of prison, but then, how many of his sentences will be set to run concurrently.
I'll say this too, concurrent sentences atre a complete cop out (excuse the pun) and should never, ever be used again. Do the crime, do the time, all of it. We need more prisons for serious criminals. |
He’s already being held at Rampton Hospital, so I’d wager there’s a good chance the defence will be all about his mental state. I don’t think he’ll ever get out of there.
Totally agree with your comments about more prisons for serious criminals, we need to be able to lock people like this guy up for ever. What this incident shows is that our MH services are still failing, how many times have we seen this type of incident take place? There’s always an enquiry, a few people come out and say lessons will be learnt etc etc ,… but nothing ever changes.  | | | |
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