| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading 09:33 - Sep 30 with 1792 views | RonaldStump | Who'd have Thunk it eh!! I suggest you read it in full, but a few bits to point out that is very interesting: 1 Data source & preparation On 23rd June 2021 I was given access to a substantial TXT file (22MB) held on a shared Google drive entitled XXXX_20210101_ToDate.txt1 , this being a dump of electronic records of admissions for the period 1st January 2021 — 13th June 2021 for an unknown NHS Trust. When imported into Excel this consisted of 161,495 The rows represent admissions to this particular NHS trust! In table 3 of report 8 — Vaccination Status & Incidence of COVID-19 we observed some 38.2% of COVID-19 admissions being discharged back home; a finding that was deemed ‘striking’. So people going into hospital for whatever reason, being labelled as a Covid victim then strangely enough being discharged home. 3.2 Chief Complaint There remains the issue of the chief complaint. The 161,494 emergency department admissions records within XXXX_20210101_ToDate.txt yielded a total of 140 unique complaints ranging from ‘Abrasion’ to ‘Wound Care (procedure)’. These were assessed for likely relevance to SARS-COV-2 infection/COVID-19. So basically going in with non related covid issues and being admitted as a covid patient hmmmmm 5 The implication To date 10 reports have been written totalling 60,799 words of analysis made on 102k electronic records of deceased patients and 898k emergency department admission records. Many conclusions have been drawn from 117 figures and 82 tables. All this work has been based on the assumption that NHS Trusts have been coding incidence of COVID-19 in a diligent manner backed by clinical diagnosis. It is abundantly clear this is not the case and that the electronic patient record system is awash with asymptomatic/false positive admissions requiring care for other diseases and conditions whilst their data record is flagged as ‘COVID’. 6 Summary of key points 4. 4,190/161,494 admissions met the criterion of a COVID-compatible chief complaint backed by a SARSCOV-2 marker diagnosis (2.6%), whereas 4,535/161,494 admissions met the criterion of a COVIDcompatible chief complaint backed by a respiratory diagnosis (2.8%). The total number of admissions presenting with a relevant respiratory diagnosis and a SARS-COV-2 diagnostic marker was 125 (0.08%). 6. By adopting an audit criterion of a relevant chief complaint with a supporting respiratory diagnosis as the basis for COVID-19 validation we discover only 9.7% (204/2,102) of declared COVID cases actually exhibited the fundamental basis for symptomatic disease between 1st January and 13th June 2021. 7. It was concluded that that the ED electronic patient record system is awash with asymptomatic/false positive admissions that primarily require emergency care for non-COVID diseases and conditions whilst their data record is flagged as ‘COVID’. This dilution of the true clinical picture explains the peculiar ‘non-results’ from various analyses undertaken and seriously undermines any and all study of the evidence base. https://in-this-together.com/u This seriously undermines the entire narrative being pushed for vaccinating kids, vaccine passports etc. |  |
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| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 09:49 - Sep 30 with 1260 views | Scotia | And Dr John Dee is? To me it looks like a bloke who's attempted to interprate partial data he doesn't understand, and make it quite "wordy" to impress the stupid. |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 09:56 - Sep 30 with 1252 views | RonaldStump |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 09:49 - Sep 30 by Scotia | And Dr John Dee is? To me it looks like a bloke who's attempted to interprate partial data he doesn't understand, and make it quite "wordy" to impress the stupid. |
Standard response from you!! Zzzzzzzzzz |  |
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| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 10:02 - Sep 30 with 1248 views | Scotia |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 09:56 - Sep 30 by RonaldStump | Standard response from you!! Zzzzzzzzzz |
Ok I'll help you. "John Dee is a pen name owing to the sensitivities involved" Quite possibly fabricated BS that means nothing, even if it isn't it's irrelevant. You're impressed which says it all, you're John Dee's target audience. |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 10:16 - Sep 30 with 1233 views | RonaldStump |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 10:02 - Sep 30 by Scotia | Ok I'll help you. "John Dee is a pen name owing to the sensitivities involved" Quite possibly fabricated BS that means nothing, even if it isn't it's irrelevant. You're impressed which says it all, you're John Dee's target audience. |
So a brainwashed numpty on a football message board say's it's "Quite possibly fabricated BS that means nothing" but has no way whatsoever of proving it as factually incorrect. You keep repeating MSM propaganda like a subserviently compliant little bellwhiff eh!! |  |
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| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 10:35 - Sep 30 with 1218 views | Scotia |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 10:16 - Sep 30 by RonaldStump | So a brainwashed numpty on a football message board say's it's "Quite possibly fabricated BS that means nothing" but has no way whatsoever of proving it as factually incorrect. You keep repeating MSM propaganda like a subserviently compliant little bellwhiff eh!! |
Prove it is factually correct then. Ask John Dee. Once you've done that you can explain why it's relevant. I haven't repeated "MSM" propaganda. I've called your post out for being nonsense, Nonsense that you've been taken in by. Again. Think for yourself. |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 10:49 - Sep 30 with 1210 views | RonaldStump |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 10:35 - Sep 30 by Scotia | Prove it is factually correct then. Ask John Dee. Once you've done that you can explain why it's relevant. I haven't repeated "MSM" propaganda. I've called your post out for being nonsense, Nonsense that you've been taken in by. Again. Think for yourself. |
You are the one disputing it, so the onus is on you to prove it incorrect. And the same goes for everything else you dispute that goes against the narrative. The fact that you still believe in the propaganda tells me everything i need to know about you. I genuinely pity you. |  |
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| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 11:33 - Sep 30 with 1191 views | Catullus | I have a question, is this doctor using a pen name? If he is then why, if what he says is true? When you post something on the www. it should be up to you to verify that it's true. By refusing to even try all you do is cast doubt on what you post and, as you have posted so much nonsense why should anyone believe this? You've been called out as a liar by mor than a few peiple on here. Even caught out just recently by Lisa with your religious claims. Nobody much believes you, you are a WUM. Of course the other conspiracists and deniers may believe you. |  |
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| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 11:47 - Sep 30 with 1186 views | RonaldStump |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 11:33 - Sep 30 by Catullus | I have a question, is this doctor using a pen name? If he is then why, if what he says is true? When you post something on the www. it should be up to you to verify that it's true. By refusing to even try all you do is cast doubt on what you post and, as you have posted so much nonsense why should anyone believe this? You've been called out as a liar by mor than a few peiple on here. Even caught out just recently by Lisa with your religious claims. Nobody much believes you, you are a WUM. Of course the other conspiracists and deniers may believe you. |
Another brainwashed nutter Please see above |  |
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| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 11:49 - Sep 30 with 1182 views | Scotia |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 10:49 - Sep 30 by RonaldStump | You are the one disputing it, so the onus is on you to prove it incorrect. And the same goes for everything else you dispute that goes against the narrative. The fact that you still believe in the propaganda tells me everything i need to know about you. I genuinely pity you. |
So you can't then? How can I prove it isn't correct when he doesn't say who he is, where he got his information from or even what part of the country it is supposed to be from. If that isn't baseless propaganda then what is? |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 12:08 - Sep 30 with 1165 views | onehunglow | Having booster soon. Good luck Ron |  |
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| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 12:20 - Sep 30 with 1160 views | RonaldStump |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 11:49 - Sep 30 by Scotia | So you can't then? How can I prove it isn't correct when he doesn't say who he is, where he got his information from or even what part of the country it is supposed to be from. If that isn't baseless propaganda then what is? |
It is a non de plume as he wants to protect the source of the information that he is highlighting after being handed a data set from a hospital trust. He makes a declaration of interests at the end of the report and advises he is happy to provide CV, biography and published papers to any,bone fide interested party. More than you will get from the chinese style propaganda coming out of MSM |  |
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| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 12:26 - Sep 30 with 1157 views | Scotia |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 12:20 - Sep 30 by RonaldStump | It is a non de plume as he wants to protect the source of the information that he is highlighting after being handed a data set from a hospital trust. He makes a declaration of interests at the end of the report and advises he is happy to provide CV, biography and published papers to any,bone fide interested party. More than you will get from the chinese style propaganda coming out of MSM |
Ask him for it then. His data would probably be available through an FOI request, do that too if you want. |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 12:34 - Sep 30 with 1154 views | RonaldStump |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 12:26 - Sep 30 by Scotia | Ask him for it then. His data would probably be available through an FOI request, do that too if you want. |
I'm not the one disputing it. maybe you should consider taking your own advice. |  |
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| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 14:03 - Sep 30 with 1133 views | Scotia |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 12:34 - Sep 30 by RonaldStump | I'm not the one disputing it. maybe you should consider taking your own advice. |
No. You're the one believing an anonymous report, containing information from an anonymous source in a undisclosed area. But I'm the gullible one? Didn't you learn how to criticaly think in Jamia Al-Kauthar? This is up there with the completely fabricated Russian FB post and the "mortuary" project that was actually an NHS security pass that you believed for either stupidity or gullibility. Or quite possible both as a wind up. |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 14:11 - Sep 30 with 1129 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 11:33 - Sep 30 by Catullus | I have a question, is this doctor using a pen name? If he is then why, if what he says is true? When you post something on the www. it should be up to you to verify that it's true. By refusing to even try all you do is cast doubt on what you post and, as you have posted so much nonsense why should anyone believe this? You've been called out as a liar by mor than a few peiple on here. Even caught out just recently by Lisa with your religious claims. Nobody much believes you, you are a WUM. Of course the other conspiracists and deniers may believe you. |
If this guy is a real doctor, what do you think happens to him if he provides his real name? I will tell you, he will sacked and barred from practicing medicine in the UK and he wouldn't be the first. |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 14:18 - Sep 30 with 1124 views | Scotia |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 14:11 - Sep 30 by A_Fans_Dad | If this guy is a real doctor, what do you think happens to him if he provides his real name? I will tell you, he will sacked and barred from practicing medicine in the UK and he wouldn't be the first. |
Have you read the report? He is not a real doctor. |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 14:25 - Sep 30 with 1116 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 14:18 - Sep 30 by Scotia | Have you read the report? He is not a real doctor. |
How do you know what he is? Show us the links please to back up your statement. Not that he needs to be a doctor of course to present a report of someone else's work. |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 14:55 - Sep 30 with 1099 views | Scotia |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 14:25 - Sep 30 by A_Fans_Dad | How do you know what he is? Show us the links please to back up your statement. Not that he needs to be a doctor of course to present a report of someone else's work. |
If you think he's got any medical training after reading that report you've got problems. He's clearly a data cruncher. |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:10 - Sep 30 with 1090 views | Treforys_Jack | The ignore function is a godsend people, truly. |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:11 - Sep 30 with 1090 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 14:55 - Sep 30 by Scotia | If you think he's got any medical training after reading that report you've got problems. He's clearly a data cruncher. |
So you are admitting you do not have any data on him or her whatsoever. Thanks. |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:13 - Sep 30 with 1088 views | Scotia |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:11 - Sep 30 by A_Fans_Dad | So you are admitting you do not have any data on him or her whatsoever. Thanks. |
Do you? |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:17 - Sep 30 with 1086 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:13 - Sep 30 by Scotia | Do you? |
I don't need to, you are the one saying he doesn't know what he is talking about. So just simply prove it. But you can't can you? |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:34 - Sep 30 with 1076 views | Scotia |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:17 - Sep 30 by A_Fans_Dad | I don't need to, you are the one saying he doesn't know what he is talking about. So just simply prove it. But you can't can you? |
This is what I said. And Dr John Dee is? To me it looks like a bloke who's attempted to interprate partial data he doesn't understand, and make it quite "wordy" to impress the stupid. I can't prove it because it's completely anonymous as is the location and the data source. It's worthless. Can you prove it isn't? |  | |  |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:42 - Sep 30 with 1075 views | RonaldStump |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:17 - Sep 30 by A_Fans_Dad | I don't need to, you are the one saying he doesn't know what he is talking about. So just simply prove it. But you can't can you? |
I wouldn't bother wasting your time, the brainwashed nutter is way too far gone to even possibly think there is an alternative view on anything. Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done for the likes of him. |  |
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| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:43 - Sep 30 with 1073 views | RonaldStump |
| NHS Covid data faulty and misleading on 15:10 - Sep 30 by Treforys_Jack | The ignore function is a godsend people, truly. |
Working well then |  |
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