| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. 09:08 - Sep 27 with 1313 views | onehunglow |
It s Monday and I m shoving this topic there for discussion . Is it something people are comfortable to disclose in the first place.
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 09:26 - Sep 27 with 842 views | Professor |
Fortunate that my maternal grandfather was from Lincolnshire (CoE) and paternal side without religion which took away some of the worst influences of South Wales non-conformism. Arguably the framework of most religions provides a framework for society, yet those with strong convictions are often the worst in civil society. | | | |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 09:43 - Sep 27 with 830 views | onehunglow |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 09:26 - Sep 27 by Professor |
Fortunate that my maternal grandfather was from Lincolnshire (CoE) and paternal side without religion which took away some of the worst influences of South Wales non-conformism. Arguably the framework of most religions provides a framework for society, yet those with strong convictions are often the worst in civil society. |
Brilliant start and than you Paul.
I will see what comes up before giving my sermon .
Hope you re well down in that micro climate | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 10:10 - Sep 27 with 812 views | Catullus |
My gran was Welsh Baptist but my parents weren't religious though my mother turned to religion when she hit 70 and was in poor health, many people do when they are desperate to believe that death isn't the end.
Not being religious it didn't stop them making me go to Sunday school though. They wanted to do their own thing without worrying about me, makes me wonder why they had kids! I used to bunk off and go play football with my mates when I reached 7 which was after my father had left and my mum wasn't paying much attention.
What I learnt from religion was that people are liars and hypocrites, many go to church to advertise they are good people when many in fact are anything but!
How did it affect my upbringing, it taught me to enjoy a good fairy story but to not believe them. It taught me how deceitful people can be, and how selfish. It taught me that some people really shouldn't have kids. | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 10:12 - Sep 27 with 809 views | Boundy |
B******s to it all , I was never pushed into as a child except for the obligatory Sunday school just so my mam could get the Sunday lunch sorted without having 5 kids under her feet. The only notable events in my life regarding "God" was when practicing for my passing out parade on a wet miserable Sunday morning the call came out all Catholics had to attend the morning service so me and my mate who were not of that particular faith decided we were just to bunk off. there's us thinking we were clever ,we weren't not, the remainder of the squad went to the NAFFI in the warm for tea and toast whilst we suffered in silence then had to rejoin the squad for the remainder of the drill.
Having experienced sectarianism in its extreme form then for me its all nonsense, how can someone believe that God is on their side when they carry out random acts of violence truly astounds me. I respect others have their opposing views when it comes to religion and that's fine but don't try to enforce them on me. | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 10:27 - Sep 27 with 802 views | onehunglow |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 10:12 - Sep 27 by Boundy |
B******s to it all , I was never pushed into as a child except for the obligatory Sunday school just so my mam could get the Sunday lunch sorted without having 5 kids under her feet. The only notable events in my life regarding "God" was when practicing for my passing out parade on a wet miserable Sunday morning the call came out all Catholics had to attend the morning service so me and my mate who were not of that particular faith decided we were just to bunk off. there's us thinking we were clever ,we weren't not, the remainder of the squad went to the NAFFI in the warm for tea and toast whilst we suffered in silence then had to rejoin the squad for the remainder of the drill.
Having experienced sectarianism in its extreme form then for me its all nonsense, how can someone believe that God is on their side when they carry out random acts of violence truly astounds me. I respect others have their opposing views when it comes to religion and that's fine but don't try to enforce them on me. |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 10:31 - Sep 27 with 798 views | onehunglow |
I was brought up my parents who were church goers . They were ok until Billy Graham preached in Swansea when my father got converted .
It turned him into a fundamental welsh baptist and one where no newspapers were read on Sunday nor TV watched .It was all about worshipping Jesus .
It oversaw everything and it became obsessional .
It affected me deeply and still does
Catholics were basically seen as demons who prayed to Mary and took the glory away from a Jesus
Those days we didn’t have Muslims in Swansea .Just as well thinking back.
Religion underpins nearly all evil and wars and always has
No religion should demand respect | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 11:20 - Sep 27 with 778 views | Boundy |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 10:31 - Sep 27 by onehunglow |
I was brought up my parents who were church goers . They were ok until Billy Graham preached in Swansea when my father got converted .
It turned him into a fundamental welsh baptist and one where no newspapers were read on Sunday nor TV watched .It was all about worshipping Jesus .
It oversaw everything and it became obsessional .
It affected me deeply and still does
Catholics were basically seen as demons who prayed to Mary and took the glory away from a Jesus
Those days we didn’t have Muslims in Swansea .Just as well thinking back.
Religion underpins nearly all evil and wars and always has
No religion should demand respect |
I don't know if this is the event your dad attended but it sounded like it was fun day out.
Welsh writer Geraint Fielder, who attended the meetings in Gorseinon at which Billy Graham spoke. In fact, it was then that he got saved, wrote: ‘At that time I was eleven and had started my second year in Grammar School. My first recollection of the events was Cliff Barrows, the sunny song leader, going down the High Street to Zion Chapel, playing a trombone and crowds of people building up. I had a seat with my father in the front centre of the gallery. We must have gone quite early. There was a huge congregation, some sitting on benches down both aisles, even up the pulpit steps.’
Fielder’s account later continued: Billy preached on 'you are weighed in the balances (scales) and found wanting', a text from the dramatic account of Belshazzar's feast in the prophecy of Daniel. I was convicted by the picture he drew of the contrast between God's perfection on one side of the scales and how my sinful life would never satisfy his standard - the scales were weighed against me. The preacher's presentation of Christ as the substitute for sinners who stepped in on the sinner's side to even out the scales I saw as my only hope.’
‘There was a fairly long appeal at the end and many people, perhaps dozens, went down and were led into a back room. Sitting where I was, I had a good view of all this and I was battling inside and felt I ought to have gone to the front but sat rooted. Eventually my Dad turned to me and asked if I wanted to go down. I said yes and after everyone else had gone into the church hall I went down, followed by a younger friend sitting near me. It was not easy to get past the benches because I had delayed, so I remember feeling very 'obvious'.
When I got to the vestry door it was shut. I had the chilling thought: 'I'm too late'. The parable of the five foolish virgins flooded into my mind. (I had had a good Sunday school grounding.) But, to my relief, the door was opened, by Billy himself and it seemed as if God was reassuring me about his mercy. I glanced to the right: Cliff Barrows was dealing with a crowd in the church hall. But Billy retained us with him in the vestry, along with my friend who, I was shocked to see, was grinning. But I meant business and Billy said to me afterwards: 'You're going on with the Lord, sonny, aren't you?' | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 11:27 - Sep 27 with 771 views | Boundy |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 10:10 - Sep 27 by Catullus |
My gran was Welsh Baptist but my parents weren't religious though my mother turned to religion when she hit 70 and was in poor health, many people do when they are desperate to believe that death isn't the end.
Not being religious it didn't stop them making me go to Sunday school though. They wanted to do their own thing without worrying about me, makes me wonder why they had kids! I used to bunk off and go play football with my mates when I reached 7 which was after my father had left and my mum wasn't paying much attention.
What I learnt from religion was that people are liars and hypocrites, many go to church to advertise they are good people when many in fact are anything but!
How did it affect my upbringing, it taught me to enjoy a good fairy story but to not believe them. It taught me how deceitful people can be, and how selfish. It taught me that some people really shouldn't have kids. |
I know there's the saying there's no atheists in a foxhole and I must admit that I have had a quiet word with whomever on a number of occasions and that sounds hypocritical after writing my previous post but maybe its a natural reaction under extreme stress , I don't know. | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 12:19 - Sep 27 with 761 views | CountyJim |
As most know I'm Catholic still go to mass when I can
My mum and dad where both Catholic I think even lapsed Catholics have a good sense of right and wrong
What I do find these days is some atheists are becoming as bad as some fundamentalists
Religion gives people comfort at difficult times what's wrong in that I know I've said it before but on my mum's death bed it was a comfort to her and us she saw an angel and knew she was going to be with her mum and dad
Ok some might say it's the medication she was taking who knows but it brought her comfort in Christ. |  | | |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 12:55 - Sep 27 with 744 views | onehunglow |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 11:20 - Sep 27 by Boundy |
I don't know if this is the event your dad attended but it sounded like it was fun day out.
Welsh writer Geraint Fielder, who attended the meetings in Gorseinon at which Billy Graham spoke. In fact, it was then that he got saved, wrote: ‘At that time I was eleven and had started my second year in Grammar School. My first recollection of the events was Cliff Barrows, the sunny song leader, going down the High Street to Zion Chapel, playing a trombone and crowds of people building up. I had a seat with my father in the front centre of the gallery. We must have gone quite early. There was a huge congregation, some sitting on benches down both aisles, even up the pulpit steps.’
Fielder’s account later continued: Billy preached on 'you are weighed in the balances (scales) and found wanting', a text from the dramatic account of Belshazzar's feast in the prophecy of Daniel. I was convicted by the picture he drew of the contrast between God's perfection on one side of the scales and how my sinful life would never satisfy his standard - the scales were weighed against me. The preacher's presentation of Christ as the substitute for sinners who stepped in on the sinner's side to even out the scales I saw as my only hope.’
‘There was a fairly long appeal at the end and many people, perhaps dozens, went down and were led into a back room. Sitting where I was, I had a good view of all this and I was battling inside and felt I ought to have gone to the front but sat rooted. Eventually my Dad turned to me and asked if I wanted to go down. I said yes and after everyone else had gone into the church hall I went down, followed by a younger friend sitting near me. It was not easy to get past the benches because I had delayed, so I remember feeling very 'obvious'.
When I got to the vestry door it was shut. I had the chilling thought: 'I'm too late'. The parable of the five foolish virgins flooded into my mind. (I had had a good Sunday school grounding.) But, to my relief, the door was opened, by Billy himself and it seemed as if God was reassuring me about his mercy. I glanced to the right: Cliff Barrows was dealing with a crowd in the church hall. But Billy retained us with him in the vestry, along with my friend who, I was shocked to see, was grinning. But I meant business and Billy said to me afterwards: 'You're going on with the Lord, sonny, aren't you?' |
Think it was at St Helens .Massive crowd
Jim.
With respect,you do not need religion for all that. Religion is there and faith is simply a means of making death less painful.
Religion divides us all and conquers.A curse on mankind | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 13:10 - Sep 27 with 737 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
My parents went to a Welsh Baptist Church. There was some pretty bad bickering and petty arguements at that particular church. One day my Dad came home said he'd had enough, religious principles are fine he said, the practice is a problem. I learned that you did not need to go church to be either a Christian or indeed a good person. |  |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 13:33 - Sep 27 with 727 views | onehunglow |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 13:10 - Sep 27 by JACKMANANDBOY |
My parents went to a Welsh Baptist Church. There was some pretty bad bickering and petty arguements at that particular church. One day my Dad came home said he'd had enough, religious principles are fine he said, the practice is a problem. I learned that you did not need to go church to be either a Christian or indeed a good person. |
And much preying other people s wives too | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 16:33 - Sep 27 with 686 views | Catullus |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 11:27 - Sep 27 by Boundy |
I know there's the saying there's no atheists in a foxhole and I must admit that I have had a quiet word with whomever on a number of occasions and that sounds hypocritical after writing my previous post but maybe its a natural reaction under extreme stress , I don't know. |
Of course it's a natural reaction, when you say whomever that is the point, you could be prayingto the universe as much as a God.
I don't do organised religion but I do believe there is something bigger going on, something beyond our understanding.
What puzzles me is, there are so mnay religions and so many that have been and gone. With so mnay gods that were prayed to, why is the Christian god the one true god, according to them?
The Vikings, the Greeks and Romans, the Aztec and Inca all believed in multiple gods and they all passed into history and new gods came along.
If I believe in anything it's Mother Nature, at least I can see and touch her! | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 16:33 - Sep 27 with 686 views | krunchykarrot |
I just dont get it, people are free to worship any God they choose brought up as a catholic which i soon sussed out and turned me into a atheist. This is a true story from yesterday, out on my bike and was coming down mountain when a dog ran across track stopped and commented on colour of German Shepherd. The elderly lady apologised and thanked me and encouraged me to look at a JW.org website i shit you not. People should not be allowed to be subjugated to this nonsense as they will find the vulnerable. |  | | |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 16:42 - Sep 27 with 682 views | Catullus |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 16:33 - Sep 27 by krunchykarrot |
I just dont get it, people are free to worship any God they choose brought up as a catholic which i soon sussed out and turned me into a atheist. This is a true story from yesterday, out on my bike and was coming down mountain when a dog ran across track stopped and commented on colour of German Shepherd. The elderly lady apologised and thanked me and encouraged me to look at a JW.org website i shit you not. People should not be allowed to be subjugated to this nonsense as they will find the vulnerable. |
I find the JW's particularly nasty, they'd let a kid die rather than let him/her have a blood transfusion. It's just wrong, if God let us have the knowledge to do transfusions why is having one wrong? Or is the NHS the devils work to them? | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 17:35 - Sep 27 with 672 views | krunchykarrot |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 16:42 - Sep 27 by Catullus |
I find the JW's particularly nasty, they'd let a kid die rather than let him/her have a blood transfusion. It's just wrong, if God let us have the knowledge to do transfusions why is having one wrong? Or is the NHS the devils work to them? |
"if God let us have the knowledge to do transfusions why is having one wrong"
1600's Or James Blundell when God decided to let you live.  | | | |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 17:42 - Sep 27 with 671 views | Catullus |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 17:35 - Sep 27 by krunchykarrot |
"if God let us have the knowledge to do transfusions why is having one wrong"
1600's Or James Blundell when God decided to let you live. |
God didn't let me live though because there is no god, other than Alan Curtis  | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 20:06 - Sep 27 with 641 views | onehunglow |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 16:33 - Sep 27 by krunchykarrot |
I just dont get it, people are free to worship any God they choose brought up as a catholic which i soon sussed out and turned me into a atheist. This is a true story from yesterday, out on my bike and was coming down mountain when a dog ran across track stopped and commented on colour of German Shepherd. The elderly lady apologised and thanked me and encouraged me to look at a JW.org website i shit you not. People should not be allowed to be subjugated to this nonsense as they will find the vulnerable. |
With my upbringing there was no freedom.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and his sacrifice or you will go straight to burning hell.
Preached at young children
No freedom | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 21:58 - Sep 27 with 617 views | Catullus |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 20:06 - Sep 27 by onehunglow |
With my upbringing there was no freedom.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and his sacrifice or you will go straight to burning hell.
Preached at young children
No freedom |
Our son wanted to go to Sunday school with his friends (when he was in Primary school) so we let him. He came home and said he'd been told that people who don't believe in God and go to church are very bad people!
We never allowed him near the place again. We are baaaad people, obviously. | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 10:23 - Sep 28 with 576 views | onehunglow |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 21:58 - Sep 27 by Catullus |
Our son wanted to go to Sunday school with his friends (when he was in Primary school) so we let him. He came home and said he'd been told that people who don't believe in God and go to church are very bad people!
We never allowed him near the place again. We are baaaad people, obviously. |
Morning Cat.
Indeed.
I have personal experience of religion (welsh baptistry) demonising anyone who didnt believe as they did,even Methodists were wrong over their baptism ceremonies. All religions believe they are right and all else are wrong. Its why we had misionaries to convert black Africa in the first place. It's our biggest shame and one we won't admit.
Women are seen by most religions as being subservient to the man and there to "serve".
Yet ,we are urged to respect vicars/preachers seen ,as they were mas "good" people we needed to look up do. I'll leave the sexual practices of those people for another day. | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 10:31 - Sep 28 with 575 views | Catullus |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 10:23 - Sep 28 by onehunglow |
Morning Cat.
Indeed.
I have personal experience of religion (welsh baptistry) demonising anyone who didnt believe as they did,even Methodists were wrong over their baptism ceremonies. All religions believe they are right and all else are wrong. Its why we had misionaries to convert black Africa in the first place. It's our biggest shame and one we won't admit.
Women are seen by most religions as being subservient to the man and there to "serve".
Yet ,we are urged to respect vicars/preachers seen ,as they were mas "good" people we needed to look up do. I'll leave the sexual practices of those people for another day. |
The Roman Catholics get me, OHL, it doesn't matter what your crime is, see the Priest do your penance and all is forgiven. You can be pedo, rapist o murderer and you will still be allowed into heaven if you repent but get cut down by illness and decide to end your own suffering, or maybe commit suicide after being sexually abused as a kid by your local Priest and you are damned to eternity in hellfire.
It's nonsense. If there was an all seeing, all knowing, all powerful god in any religion, that god could do something and if that deity really did care they would do something but nothing is done by any deity because they don't exist. | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 11:28 - Sep 28 with 559 views | onehunglow |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 10:31 - Sep 28 by Catullus |
The Roman Catholics get me, OHL, it doesn't matter what your crime is, see the Priest do your penance and all is forgiven. You can be pedo, rapist o murderer and you will still be allowed into heaven if you repent but get cut down by illness and decide to end your own suffering, or maybe commit suicide after being sexually abused as a kid by your local Priest and you are damned to eternity in hellfire.
It's nonsense. If there was an all seeing, all knowing, all powerful god in any religion, that god could do something and if that deity really did care they would do something but nothing is done by any deity because they don't exist. |
Indeed,and my father said that only Jesus can forgive sin not any man-certainly not a paedophile in a frock which ha been the case,clearly.
My "favourite "religion though id Mormon. No wonder they wrote a musical on the pitiful drivel dicovered by Joseph Smith. They never found those tablets Cat-the fundamental rock of Latter Day Saints.
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 11:33 - Sep 28 with 556 views | RonaldStump |
I was born into a state of fitrah, meaning purity and awareness of God. My parents had the responsibility of developing their spirituality. This was achieved through teachings and daily life, but also by enrolling me as a child at a madrasah .
I was brought up to have Belief in the Oneness of God: As muslims we believe that God is the creator of all things, and that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. God has no offspring, no race, no gender, no body, no vaccines and is unaffected by the characteristics of human life.
The Five Pillars are the core beliefs and practices of of my religion:
Profession of Faith (shahada). The belief that "There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the Messenger of God" is central to my religion
Prayer (salat). ...
Alms (zakat). ...
Fasting (sawm). ...
Pilgrimage (hajj).
I was often taken to the local mosques as they were places where Muslims worship. Some important Islamic holy places I have prayed at include the Kaaba shrine in Mecca, the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, and the Prophet Muhammad's mosque in Medina. The Quran (or Koran) is the major holy text of my religion. ... we all worship Allah by praying and reciting the Quran
Wahhabism jacks 1986 | |
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 11:45 - Sep 28 with 548 views | onehunglow |
| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 11:33 - Sep 28 by RonaldStump |
I was born into a state of fitrah, meaning purity and awareness of God. My parents had the responsibility of developing their spirituality. This was achieved through teachings and daily life, but also by enrolling me as a child at a madrasah .
I was brought up to have Belief in the Oneness of God: As muslims we believe that God is the creator of all things, and that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. God has no offspring, no race, no gender, no body, no vaccines and is unaffected by the characteristics of human life.
The Five Pillars are the core beliefs and practices of of my religion:
Profession of Faith (shahada). The belief that "There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the Messenger of God" is central to my religion
Prayer (salat). ...
Alms (zakat). ...
Fasting (sawm). ...
Pilgrimage (hajj).
I was often taken to the local mosques as they were places where Muslims worship. Some important Islamic holy places I have prayed at include the Kaaba shrine in Mecca, the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, and the Prophet Muhammad's mosque in Medina. The Quran (or Koran) is the major holy text of my religion. ... we all worship Allah by praying and reciting the Quran
Wahhabism jacks 1986 |
Fundamental Christians can recite scripture too.It was hammered into us as kids,literally.
Only one way to enter the Kingdom of Heaven and that is through Jesus.
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| Religion and how it affects one’s upbringing. on 13:44 - Sep 28 with 514 views | Catullus |
How can one person be a major figure in 3 different main religions that all believe different things? At least 2 of them have to be very wrong, that'd be the yougest two surely?
The Cat in the hat, not letting strangers into my house since 1957
Cat, not letting strangers in since 1967
I wonder if the Saudi Royal family have paid their 2.5%? Or at Ramadan their Zakat al-fitr? They have enough to give. | |
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