| Going green to save the planet? 21:27 - Oct 17 with 988 views | Catullus |
Not hardly.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/sci
Next time they foist a so called green tax increase on us, lets just call them out because it's total BS.
The latest increase is apparently 60% down to China. Whatever the Uk does is pointless. |  |
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| Going green to save the planet? on 11:16 - Oct 18 with 927 views | A_Fans_Dad |
I thought that is what you wanted with your calls to action.
It is going to cost you a lot more than you think and you won't have any say in the matter.
Zero Carbon is written in to law and they can do whatever they like to bring it in. | | | |
| Going green to save the planet? on 13:29 - Oct 18 with 918 views | Catullus |
| Going green to save the planet? on 11:16 - Oct 18 by A_Fans_Dad |
I thought that is what you wanted with your calls to action.
It is going to cost you a lot more than you think and you won't have any say in the matter.
Zero Carbon is written in to law and they can do whatever they like to bring it in. |
It is what I want but unless other countries do it too, what is the point?
We who think this action is needed can tell others what needs to be done til we're blue in the face but unless ALL governments do likewise, it's a pointless task.
The recent increases in C)2 are 60% down to China and rising. The USA, India and Russia are also increasing output.
How do we get China, Russia and the USa to fall into line, the biggest 3 powers on the planet. If they keep going, what the rest of us do matters not at all. It's sad really, money before planet, because we don't have another planet we can just hop over too, when they ruin this one they ruin it for humanity which they obviously don't seem to care includes them and theirs too. | |
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| Going green to save the planet? on 16:25 - Oct 18 with 891 views | A_Fans_Dad |
The USA's CO2 is only increasing due to Biden's stupid policies.
China has never intended to curb it's CO2 emmissions any time before 2050, it is playing the west, anybody who read their Paris accord commitments new that already.
If you were talking about real pollution instead of the life blood of the planet I would agree with your position.
Most so called "green initiatives" have actually made pollution worse and not better and destroyed more habitat in the process. | | | |
| Going green to save the planet? on 14:59 - Oct 19 with 851 views | Flashberryjack |
| Going green to save the planet? on 16:25 - Oct 18 by A_Fans_Dad |
The USA's CO2 is only increasing due to Biden's stupid policies.
China has never intended to curb it's CO2 emmissions any time before 2050, it is playing the west, anybody who read their Paris accord commitments new that already.
If you were talking about real pollution instead of the life blood of the planet I would agree with your position.
Most so called "green initiatives" have actually made pollution worse and not better and destroyed more habitat in the process. |
Germany is 6th biggest burners of coal.
The UK is 61st. [Post edited 19 Oct 2021 14:59]
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| Going green to save the planet? on 16:08 - Oct 19 with 823 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Going green to save the planet? on 14:59 - Oct 19 by Flashberryjack |
Germany is 6th biggest burners of coal.
The UK is 61st. [Post edited 19 Oct 2021 14:59]
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I know.
And? | | | |
| Going green to save the planet? on 18:59 - Oct 19 with 793 views | Flashberryjack |
| Going green to save the planet? on 16:08 - Oct 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
I know.
And? |
I'd be surprised if you didn't know. | |
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| Going green to save the planet? on 19:01 - Oct 19 with 791 views | Boundy |
| Going green to save the planet? on 16:08 - Oct 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
I know.
And? |
What's your aim, to be No1 | |
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| Going green to save the planet? on 19:43 - Oct 19 with 775 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Three big issues
Microplastics appearing in all parts of the food chain
Biological diversity dropping quickly
C02 increases
Big focus on CO2 but Russia, USA, China and India increase their emissions. |  |
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| Going green to save the planet? on 20:01 - Oct 19 with 766 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Going green to save the planet? on 19:01 - Oct 19 by Boundy |
What's your aim, to be No1 |
No, my aim is to have reliable, cheap as possible energy for the UK.
Unfortunately that is not the aim of our government. | | | |
| Going green to save the planet? on 20:02 - Oct 19 with 765 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Going green to save the planet? on 19:43 - Oct 19 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Three big issues
Microplastics appearing in all parts of the food chain
Biological diversity dropping quickly
C02 increases
Big focus on CO2 but Russia, USA, China and India increase their emissions. |
Along with most of the rest of the undeveloped world. | | | |
| Going green to save the planet? on 09:29 - Oct 20 with 698 views | Catullus |
| Going green to save the planet? on 20:02 - Oct 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
Along with most of the rest of the undeveloped world. |
The latest report says the UK's policies and plans mean increasing fossil fuels output. That is my problem with the government. When they put green taxes up, when they make cuts and promises and tell us what we must do why should we pay?
The UK's plans mean a slight drop in coal use but increasing production of gas and oil.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/sci
Thing is AFD, never mind what I believe, I can change my mind at any time for any reason. So even though I believe we need to be more green, we need to cut emissions, protect habitats and diversity, whatever I can personally do is entirely pointless as long as the worlds governments do the opposite of what they say they will do or what needs to be done. In which case, if my actions are pointless, why should I support rising costs due to lies. | |
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| Going green to save the planet? on 09:47 - Oct 20 with 692 views | Boundy |
| Going green to save the planet? on 20:01 - Oct 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
No, my aim is to have reliable, cheap as possible energy for the UK.
Unfortunately that is not the aim of our government. |
Yes but that will mean renewable energy to strike the balance between reducing emissions and using less destructive means of producing it .Coal isn't one of those options | |
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| Going green to save the planet? on 12:42 - Oct 20 with 661 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Going green to save the planet? on 09:47 - Oct 20 by Boundy |
Yes but that will mean renewable energy to strike the balance between reducing emissions and using less destructive means of producing it .Coal isn't one of those options |
"less destructive"?
Like the 12million trees killed and removed in Scotland to make way for bird and insect chopping wind turbines?
OK.
Perhaps you need to tell the rest of the world not to use coal. | | | |
| Going green to save the planet? on 13:31 - Oct 20 with 658 views | Catullus |
| Going green to save the planet? on 12:42 - Oct 20 by A_Fans_Dad |
"less destructive"?
Like the 12million trees killed and removed in Scotland to make way for bird and insect chopping wind turbines?
OK.
Perhaps you need to tell the rest of the world not to use coal. |
That is the issue though AFD, whatever we do, or say we'll do, the rest of the world isn't getting onboard and if the UK performed a miracle and was carbon free, used no fossil fuels by next year, our savings would still be less than the rises from China, Russia, India and the USA.
Which brings it back to the starting point, despite the green taxes and the nice words from our politicians our emissions are set to rise as our use of fossil fuels is set to rise and it's government policy and government plans. | |
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| Going green to save the planet? on 15:07 - Oct 20 with 630 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Cat, someday you will realise that CO2 is not polution, it is greening the world.
As long as fossil fuels are burnt cleanly they should be used.
The current government plans will completely destroy this country because they either don't understand economics, science, engineering and efficiency or are doing so deliberately. | | | |
| Going green to save the planet? on 15:13 - Oct 20 with 628 views | Boundy |
| Going green to save the planet? on 12:42 - Oct 20 by A_Fans_Dad |
"less destructive"?
Like the 12million trees killed and removed in Scotland to make way for bird and insect chopping wind turbines?
OK.
Perhaps you need to tell the rest of the world not to use coal. |
You do realise that trees can and are being replanted . Just how many birds and insect's are killed by turbines , the decline in the insect population is being put down to use of intensive agriculture and pollution in the forms of pesticides and fertilisers. As the human population grows there is an increase in the demand for both space and food. Regarding bird strikes recent have turned up a wide array of answers to this question, with a nearly fivefold difference between the smallest and largest estimates. but of course you have the definitive answer which is ? | |
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| Going green to save the planet? on 16:01 - Oct 20 with 605 views | Catullus |
| Going green to save the planet? on 15:13 - Oct 20 by Boundy |
You do realise that trees can and are being replanted . Just how many birds and insect's are killed by turbines , the decline in the insect population is being put down to use of intensive agriculture and pollution in the forms of pesticides and fertilisers. As the human population grows there is an increase in the demand for both space and food. Regarding bird strikes recent have turned up a wide array of answers to this question, with a nearly fivefold difference between the smallest and largest estimates. but of course you have the definitive answer which is ? |
Aren't bird populations being affected more by loss of habitat (hedgerows, trees) more than killed by wind farms?
It's the cutting down of trees (yes for wind farms) and removal of hedgerows for factory farming that pushing a decline in many species, isn't it? As well as the use of chemicals in farming which is destroying bee populations too. | |
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| Going green to save the planet? on 16:28 - Oct 20 with 598 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Going green to save the planet? on 15:13 - Oct 20 by Boundy |
You do realise that trees can and are being replanted . Just how many birds and insect's are killed by turbines , the decline in the insect population is being put down to use of intensive agriculture and pollution in the forms of pesticides and fertilisers. As the human population grows there is an increase in the demand for both space and food. Regarding bird strikes recent have turned up a wide array of answers to this question, with a nearly fivefold difference between the smallest and largest estimates. but of course you have the definitive answer which is ? |
Not my answer.
https://iowaclimate.org/2019/0
The trees that are planted now will take years to grow to replace those that were destroyed.
See how easily people justify chopping down trees for "green" yet crucify dirt poor Amazonian farmers from burning trees to grow food. | | | |
| Going green to save the planet? on 16:51 - Oct 20 with 594 views | Professor |
| Going green to save the planet? on 16:28 - Oct 20 by A_Fans_Dad |
Not my answer.
https://iowaclimate.org/2019/0
The trees that are planted now will take years to grow to replace those that were destroyed.
See how easily people justify chopping down trees for "green" yet crucify dirt poor Amazonian farmers from burning trees to grow food. |
Amazonian farmers are not cutting down trees to feed themselves though are they? It's not the traditional clearance, crop and move on subsistence farming(or slash and burn), it's large scale deforestation to support cattle, plants for biofuels or often soya for animal feed including poultry and pigs.
Loss of insect biomass is multi-factorial and increasing monoculture of crops for biofuel is hardly helping. I don't think anyone believes turbines are major contribution to this change, unless that is the agenda to start with. | | | |
| Going green to save the planet? on 18:05 - Oct 20 with 582 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Going green to save the planet? on 16:51 - Oct 20 by Professor |
Amazonian farmers are not cutting down trees to feed themselves though are they? It's not the traditional clearance, crop and move on subsistence farming(or slash and burn), it's large scale deforestation to support cattle, plants for biofuels or often soya for animal feed including poultry and pigs.
Loss of insect biomass is multi-factorial and increasing monoculture of crops for biofuel is hardly helping. I don't think anyone believes turbines are major contribution to this change, unless that is the agenda to start with. |
Yes Bio-fuels another green dream that is not green
Thanks for reminding us.
Who said they were doing it to feed themselves, they are obviously feeding someone.
Why use useless non baseload generation that adds to the world's problems of Bird, Bat and insect deaths.
Who knows what the ultra sound from Off shore Turbines are doing to Sea Mammals and fish?
Who knows what the electric fields around all the hundreds of under sea cables are doing to them? | | | |
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