| The true costs? on 18:50 - Oct 16 with 2219 views | Wingstandwood |
Shocking! The comments section in that says it all! |  |
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| The true costs? on 18:58 - Oct 16 with 2192 views | Whiterockin |
I can see a change by Wales online and BBC Wales. Previously the Senedd seemed to be able to do no wrong. Now they seem to be doing their journalistic job and ask serious questions. There definitely is a groundswell moving throughout the principality. |  | | |
| The true costs? on 19:52 - Oct 16 with 2150 views | Dr_Winston |
For comparison, California, a US state with a population of just under 40 million people and a GDP of $3.6tn manages with 120 politicians across both houses of its State Legislature. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The true costs? on 21:47 - Oct 16 with 2089 views | howenjack |
BBC4 10 o clock .Michael Sheen's valley Rebellion . Its about political disillusionment in Wales. |  | | |
| The true costs? on 22:39 - Oct 16 with 2061 views | Boundy |
| The true costs? on 21:47 - Oct 16 by howenjack |
BBC4 10 o clock .Michael Sheen's valley Rebellion . Its about political disillusionment in Wales. |
I wonder if many know that during the built of the Senedd building the temporary accommodation used during its build is still being paid today and will continue for many more years due to contracts agreed at the time | |
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| The true costs? on 08:40 - Oct 17 with 2010 views | Whiterockin |
The Senedd are looking for major cuts in budget spending to try and balance the books. I can tell them where to save £100M plus at a single stroke with no job losses or inconvenience to the Welsh public. They really need to live in the real world.
I haven't seen much defending of the Senedd by the usual supporters on this thread or the NHS thread. Is reality hitting home. | | | |
| The true costs? on 10:44 - Oct 17 with 1966 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The true costs? on 21:47 - Oct 16 by howenjack |
BBC4 10 o clock .Michael Sheen's valley Rebellion . Its about political disillusionment in Wales. |
It was made in 2015 and is still true today the people in Wales totally disillusioned with the Senedd ignore the views of the majority. No wonder so few people vote in Senedd elections | |
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| The true costs? on 10:46 - Oct 17 with 1964 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The true costs? on 08:40 - Oct 17 by Whiterockin |
The Senedd are looking for major cuts in budget spending to try and balance the books. I can tell them where to save £100M plus at a single stroke with no job losses or inconvenience to the Welsh public. They really need to live in the real world.
I haven't seen much defending of the Senedd by the usual supporters on this thread or the NHS thread. Is reality hitting home. |
The top three petitions on the Senedds own petition Web sites are all anti Senedd and how it works. | |
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| The true costs? on 11:51 - Oct 17 with 1931 views | Boundy |
| The true costs? on 08:40 - Oct 17 by Whiterockin |
The Senedd are looking for major cuts in budget spending to try and balance the books. I can tell them where to save £100M plus at a single stroke with no job losses or inconvenience to the Welsh public. They really need to live in the real world.
I haven't seen much defending of the Senedd by the usual supporters on this thread or the NHS thread. Is reality hitting home. |
How can any one defend the indefensible | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| The true costs? on 22:44 - Oct 17 with 1834 views | majorraglan |
| The true costs? on 08:40 - Oct 17 by Whiterockin |
The Senedd are looking for major cuts in budget spending to try and balance the books. I can tell them where to save £100M plus at a single stroke with no job losses or inconvenience to the Welsh public. They really need to live in the real world.
I haven't seen much defending of the Senedd by the usual supporters on this thread or the NHS thread. Is reality hitting home. |
I’m generally pro Senedd, but as Boundy has said you can’t defend the indefensible. If there’s a need to reduce expenditure and save cash, the Senedd should be looking internally first and setting a good example.
How can we justify increasing the number of politicians when we’re cutting public services budgets. The place I worked saw huge cuts during the austerity programme and things have never recovered, but we were expected to do more with less and that’s exactly what I expect Drakers et al to do. Put an extra hour in each day, if they don’t like it toughski. Stand down and work elsewhere. | | | |
| The true costs? on 05:58 - Oct 18 with 1806 views | Whiterockin |
| The true costs? on 22:44 - Oct 17 by majorraglan |
I’m generally pro Senedd, but as Boundy has said you can’t defend the indefensible. If there’s a need to reduce expenditure and save cash, the Senedd should be looking internally first and setting a good example.
How can we justify increasing the number of politicians when we’re cutting public services budgets. The place I worked saw huge cuts during the austerity programme and things have never recovered, but we were expected to do more with less and that’s exactly what I expect Drakers et al to do. Put an extra hour in each day, if they don’t like it toughski. Stand down and work elsewhere. |
Excellent reply. | | | |
| The true costs? on 18:35 - Oct 18 with 1709 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The true costs? on 22:44 - Oct 17 by majorraglan |
I’m generally pro Senedd, but as Boundy has said you can’t defend the indefensible. If there’s a need to reduce expenditure and save cash, the Senedd should be looking internally first and setting a good example.
How can we justify increasing the number of politicians when we’re cutting public services budgets. The place I worked saw huge cuts during the austerity programme and things have never recovered, but we were expected to do more with less and that’s exactly what I expect Drakers et al to do. Put an extra hour in each day, if they don’t like it toughski. Stand down and work elsewhere. |
Actually Drakers should just stand down, today. He's clung onto control for too long.
In the real world we are told to make do with what we have when the budget has run out but our politicians are taking from the budget to increase their number, they areliterally robbing from us to pay more of them.
To think, the one thing the tories have done that I truly agree with (cutting MP's) has been moaned about on here by some because it reduced Welsh MP's, we have too many elected reps, we could do with fewer, not more.
I think it was Dr W who posted about california, that s a very good example and a good reason why we DON'T need more in the Senedd. | | | |
| The true costs? on 22:57 - Oct 18 with 1667 views | builthjack |
By comparison, Liz Truss 30 billion pound cock up would have paid for 300 new state of the art hospitals. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| The true costs? on 06:33 - Oct 19 with 1643 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The true costs? on 22:57 - Oct 18 by builthjack |
By comparison, Liz Truss 30 billion pound cock up would have paid for 300 new state of the art hospitals. |
Only it is a labour and SNP myth it cost £30 billion.
As you have been told the tax cuts would have cost £20 billion over a full financial year. None of them happened, as they never happened there was not cost. The increased government spending never happened as well so no cost. [Post edited 19 Oct 2023 7:23]
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| The true costs? on 07:08 - Oct 19 with 1633 views | Dr_Winston |
| The true costs? on 22:57 - Oct 18 by builthjack |
By comparison, Liz Truss 30 billion pound cock up would have paid for 300 new state of the art hospitals. |
If you think "state of the art" hospitals only cost £100m to build then I'll have some of what you're smoking. Would cost at least double that just to fit out, never mind construct.
A top of the range MRI machine can easily cost seven figures on its own. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The true costs? on 07:39 - Oct 19 with 1616 views | majorraglan |
| The true costs? on 06:33 - Oct 19 by felixstowe_jack |
Only it is a labour and SNP myth it cost £30 billion.
As you have been told the tax cuts would have cost £20 billion over a full financial year. None of them happened, as they never happened there was not cost. The increased government spending never happened as well so no cost. [Post edited 19 Oct 2023 7:23]
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It’s very difficult to quantify the exact amount the budget cost, the point you make about the tax cuts not going ahead is valid, but Truss’s budget has cost the U.K. tax payer money. While there has been an increase in interest rates throughout most western economies, our rates went up higher because of the so called “Moron premium” attributed to Truss and Kwarteng’s budget which means the U.K. is paying billions in additional interest rates, the general people are paying more in interest on their mortgages etc.
Truss was a disaster. | | | |
| The true costs? on 08:29 - Oct 19 with 1598 views | raynor94 |
| The true costs? on 22:57 - Oct 18 by builthjack |
By comparison, Liz Truss 30 billion pound cock up would have paid for 300 new state of the art hospitals. |
Defending the indefensible, nobody is any doubt the about the carnage Truss caused.
But Drakeford and his party have been a disaster for Wales, do you agree with them increasing the number of members? |  |
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| The true costs? on 13:07 - Oct 19 with 1544 views | onehunglow |
| The true costs? on 08:29 - Oct 19 by raynor94 |
Defending the indefensible, nobody is any doubt the about the carnage Truss caused.
But Drakeford and his party have been a disaster for Wales, do you agree with them increasing the number of members? |
Criticising Wales,the Welsh or the Welsh govt …
Is bound for tiny tears | |
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| The true costs? on 18:18 - Oct 19 with 1506 views | max936 |
| The true costs? on 13:07 - Oct 19 by onehunglow |
Criticising Wales,the Welsh or the Welsh govt …
Is bound for tiny tears |
The WAG was criticised for years before it got replaced by the Senedd and the Senedd has proved to be even worse, headed by Dreadful the dictator is has been and still is an mitigated disaster, he's needs to go and go now!
Cutbacks whilst spending 120 million of public money on yet more bellends to sit on their arses do jobs that others there could do alongside what little they already do!
I've not voted for that long that I can't even remember when I last did, a great majority of todays politicians are only interested in what they can get out of being politicians and not what difference they can make, absolute vermin the lot of them. |  |
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| The true costs? on 20:33 - Oct 19 with 1460 views | Dr_Winston |
The Truss "£30bn" stories are no more accurate than the "Track and Trace wasted £37bn!" stories, but it's been obvious for centuries that if you repeat a lie often enough plenty of people will believe it. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The true costs? on 21:16 - Oct 19 with 1426 views | Whiterockin |
It seems that all this apparent singing about the tories is not having much impact on the opinion polls in Wales. | | | |
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