| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth 14:22 - Jul 13 with 3565 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Half a million for the winter World cup. Gareth Bale and co helps out Swansea. Swansea city is a Welsh club and this is why it get a decent pay check. Ntcham also played for Cameroon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66183016
Swansea need to get more Welsh internationals and Wales more qualifications. $$$$. The FAW need to understand Swansea play proper football and use the Swansea philosophy as a template for Wales.
Cabango, Cooper, Cullen, Congreve, Lloyd, Cotterill Josh Thomas along with old boys Davies Rodon, Roberts, James have all played modern progressive football where player are comfortable in possession and always have a pass available.
This is of no use if the manager has a different route one philosophy like Page. Care has to be taken in appointments. FAW should not simply do what is cheap and convenient. The Welsh way has to mean something.
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 15:22 - Jul 13 with 2212 views | pencoedjack |
Getting promoted with non Welsh players would be far more lucrative.
Club football is far more important. |  | | |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 15:41 - Jul 13 with 2190 views | onehunglow |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 15:22 - Jul 13 by pencoedjack |
Getting promoted with non Welsh players would be far more lucrative.
Club football is far more important. |
Let’s put it this way ,Swansea playing in the fifth level against Boreham Wood and Wales qualifying for World cups etc or Swans getting back to the Prem and Wales relegated to the next level down .
No contest for me.
Swans is every week
It’s ok for Gogs to large it as Wales fans but they don’t have a club to support at the top end of the Pyramid system .
Connahs Quay v Bala can’t be that enthralling . |  |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 15:43 - Jul 13 with 2183 views | Whiterockin |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 15:22 - Jul 13 by pencoedjack |
Getting promoted with non Welsh players would be far more lucrative.
Club football is far more important. |
Agreed. I enjoyed our jaunt into Europe far more than the Welsh success in the Euros. |  | | |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 16:06 - Jul 13 with 2152 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 15:22 - Jul 13 by pencoedjack |
Getting promoted with non Welsh players would be far more lucrative.
Club football is far more important. |
I have a different perspective, I have empathy for where I was born and raised and the history of the place. It is huge excellent example to the world in terms of peace and ethnic tolerance.
An Arab owned Swansea team with no Welsh players would rapidly lose interest for me. It may as well move to Ashford in Kent for the great commercial possibilities and better communications. It is not just about being lucrative.
Swansea can have it all. Premier league with local footballers. Swansea will never be successful by the force of the chequebook. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 16:10 - Jul 13 with 2141 views | onehunglow |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 16:06 - Jul 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have a different perspective, I have empathy for where I was born and raised and the history of the place. It is huge excellent example to the world in terms of peace and ethnic tolerance.
An Arab owned Swansea team with no Welsh players would rapidly lose interest for me. It may as well move to Ashford in Kent for the great commercial possibilities and better communications. It is not just about being lucrative.
Swansea can have it all. Premier league with local footballers. Swansea will never be successful by the force of the chequebook. |
As a Jack,I disagree completely .
Being owned by Middle East mega rich wouldn’t disturb me too much. I doubt Man City fans are bothered about the human rights issues in Qatar,considering they were up the creek not that ago under Peter Swales era . | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 16:32 - Jul 13 with 2117 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 16:10 - Jul 13 by onehunglow |
As a Jack,I disagree completely .
Being owned by Middle East mega rich wouldn’t disturb me too much. I doubt Man City fans are bothered about the human rights issues in Qatar,considering they were up the creek not that ago under Peter Swales era . |
What if the Arabs relocated the club to Kent. It matters not too much to you as you do not live in south west Wales. Or Stafford much closer to you. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 16:38 - Jul 13 with 2105 views | pencoedjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 16:06 - Jul 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have a different perspective, I have empathy for where I was born and raised and the history of the place. It is huge excellent example to the world in terms of peace and ethnic tolerance.
An Arab owned Swansea team with no Welsh players would rapidly lose interest for me. It may as well move to Ashford in Kent for the great commercial possibilities and better communications. It is not just about being lucrative.
Swansea can have it all. Premier league with local footballers. Swansea will never be successful by the force of the chequebook. |
Dear me what a load of guff | | | |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 17:29 - Jul 13 with 2067 views | builthjack |
Every players dream is to play at the highest level for a club, and represent their country.
There is no Swansea v Wales.
Or Spurs v England.
Or Man Utd v Portugal.
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:00 - Jul 13 with 2046 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 16:38 - Jul 13 by pencoedjack |
Dear me what a load of guff |
Nothing "Dear me Guff" about it. I was born in the Neath Valley and i am not a Jack. I however love Swansea City AFC because it is in my part of the world. I an not a rugby fan that focuses on the next town and never goes down the valley. I am not parochial.
I love the provenance. Swansea city represent Swansea and south west Wales and Wales. it represented England in the 2014 Euro campaign. It did not represent the United Kingdom. I accepted this as a quirk of history.
You are flag waver and Unionist and put The State (Monarchy House of Lords etc) over local cultural and historical heritage. Nothing wrong with that.
You should have no issue therefore with moving Swansea city AFC out of Wales to an up and coming growing town like Ashford in Kent. It has great communications and within one hour of the UK capital London.
I asked OHL the same question. Would you support Swansea city AFC if Arab owners moved it to Kent?. He would did answer of course. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:28 - Jul 13 with 2033 views | RhonddaSwans |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:00 - Jul 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Nothing "Dear me Guff" about it. I was born in the Neath Valley and i am not a Jack. I however love Swansea City AFC because it is in my part of the world. I an not a rugby fan that focuses on the next town and never goes down the valley. I am not parochial.
I love the provenance. Swansea city represent Swansea and south west Wales and Wales. it represented England in the 2014 Euro campaign. It did not represent the United Kingdom. I accepted this as a quirk of history.
You are flag waver and Unionist and put The State (Monarchy House of Lords etc) over local cultural and historical heritage. Nothing wrong with that.
You should have no issue therefore with moving Swansea city AFC out of Wales to an up and coming growing town like Ashford in Kent. It has great communications and within one hour of the UK capital London.
I asked OHL the same question. Would you support Swansea city AFC if Arab owners moved it to Kent?. He would did answer of course. |
Arab owners and moving it to Kent? Lord talk about manipulation of a question 😂
I think the biggest lie in football is any club not wanting oil money backing it up!
Man U fans have said for years about city , human rights ,bad money, selling their soaps ect.
United is up for sale guess who most man U fans want ?that's right oil money.
If a qutar oil barran wanted the Swans we would take the money both hands.
Anyone who says no is talking crap.
As the quality of say a 15 year old Cullen training with mbappe or any other top 30 player , would make them up their game.
Do you think foden would be the same player coming through at notts county? | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 19:52 - Jul 13 with 1996 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:28 - Jul 13 by RhonddaSwans |
Arab owners and moving it to Kent? Lord talk about manipulation of a question 😂
I think the biggest lie in football is any club not wanting oil money backing it up!
Man U fans have said for years about city , human rights ,bad money, selling their soaps ect.
United is up for sale guess who most man U fans want ?that's right oil money.
If a qutar oil barran wanted the Swans we would take the money both hands.
Anyone who says no is talking crap.
As the quality of say a 15 year old Cullen training with mbappe or any other top 30 player , would make them up their game.
Do you think foden would be the same player coming through at notts county? |
Its an hypothetical question the exile and flagman decline to answer. I follow Swansea because it is in Wales near where i was raised. The fact it plays in white has a good brand and a good style of football is a bonus.
The flagman and the exile have a distaste for Wales its culture the people and the national football team. They, I believe would be happy to see Swansea play somewhere in England with all English players and become and English based club under Arabic owners. I would not.
They profess never ending love and pride for Swansea City but no love or pride for the geographical area and its culture and heritage it is based in. By that logic moving to Kent would not bother them at all.
The US owners would take most of the money from the Arabs. Perhaps that is their long term plan. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 20:06 - Jul 13 with 1971 views | Whiterockin |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 19:52 - Jul 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Its an hypothetical question the exile and flagman decline to answer. I follow Swansea because it is in Wales near where i was raised. The fact it plays in white has a good brand and a good style of football is a bonus.
The flagman and the exile have a distaste for Wales its culture the people and the national football team. They, I believe would be happy to see Swansea play somewhere in England with all English players and become and English based club under Arabic owners. I would not.
They profess never ending love and pride for Swansea City but no love or pride for the geographical area and its culture and heritage it is based in. By that logic moving to Kent would not bother them at all.
The US owners would take most of the money from the Arabs. Perhaps that is their long term plan. |
That is one hell of a swerve and assumption. | | | |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 22:21 - Jul 13 with 1913 views | Kilkennyjack |
Been saying exactly this for years.
Our Academy sadly turned its back on our welsh lads once we had the money to sign Scots, Kenji, Zabret, and all the others. Poor.
The key for our success is developing the very best welsh players. We do it brilliantly.
Dan James being the notable brought in Welsh exception.
Only McBurnie and Grimes have had meaningful careers from those brought in from god knows where. |  |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 22:24 - Jul 13 with 1911 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 16:06 - Jul 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have a different perspective, I have empathy for where I was born and raised and the history of the place. It is huge excellent example to the world in terms of peace and ethnic tolerance.
An Arab owned Swansea team with no Welsh players would rapidly lose interest for me. It may as well move to Ashford in Kent for the great commercial possibilities and better communications. It is not just about being lucrative.
Swansea can have it all. Premier league with local footballers. Swansea will never be successful by the force of the chequebook. |
Outstanding post. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 22:29 - Jul 13 with 1909 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 19:52 - Jul 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Its an hypothetical question the exile and flagman decline to answer. I follow Swansea because it is in Wales near where i was raised. The fact it plays in white has a good brand and a good style of football is a bonus.
The flagman and the exile have a distaste for Wales its culture the people and the national football team. They, I believe would be happy to see Swansea play somewhere in England with all English players and become and English based club under Arabic owners. I would not.
They profess never ending love and pride for Swansea City but no love or pride for the geographical area and its culture and heritage it is based in. By that logic moving to Kent would not bother them at all.
The US owners would take most of the money from the Arabs. Perhaps that is their long term plan. |
An important post.
The Swans represent us, break that link and you may as well go support MK Dons or Man City. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 06:34 - Jul 14 with 1847 views | pencoedjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:00 - Jul 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Nothing "Dear me Guff" about it. I was born in the Neath Valley and i am not a Jack. I however love Swansea City AFC because it is in my part of the world. I an not a rugby fan that focuses on the next town and never goes down the valley. I am not parochial.
I love the provenance. Swansea city represent Swansea and south west Wales and Wales. it represented England in the 2014 Euro campaign. It did not represent the United Kingdom. I accepted this as a quirk of history.
You are flag waver and Unionist and put The State (Monarchy House of Lords etc) over local cultural and historical heritage. Nothing wrong with that.
You should have no issue therefore with moving Swansea city AFC out of Wales to an up and coming growing town like Ashford in Kent. It has great communications and within one hour of the UK capital London.
I asked OHL the same question. Would you support Swansea city AFC if Arab owners moved it to Kent?. He would did answer of course. |
Your British fella end of.
If you are so in love with Wales why not support a team who ply their trade in the LOW as you hate everything English.
Take the forum idiot with you 👠| | | |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 06:58 - Jul 14 with 1841 views | pencoedjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 19:52 - Jul 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Its an hypothetical question the exile and flagman decline to answer. I follow Swansea because it is in Wales near where i was raised. The fact it plays in white has a good brand and a good style of football is a bonus.
The flagman and the exile have a distaste for Wales its culture the people and the national football team. They, I believe would be happy to see Swansea play somewhere in England with all English players and become and English based club under Arabic owners. I would not.
They profess never ending love and pride for Swansea City but no love or pride for the geographical area and its culture and heritage it is based in. By that logic moving to Kent would not bother them at all.
The US owners would take most of the money from the Arabs. Perhaps that is their long term plan. |
I am pretty sure any Arab who bought Swansea City would have no intention of moving it to Ashford they’d buy Gillingham if they wanted a club in Kent.
What a ridiculous thing to bring up.
For the record I’m proud of being Welsh (& British)& my dislike of the Welsh government & how it is sending Wales backwards is a testimony to that, you however see that as disliking my country which in my eyes makes you rather stupid. | | | |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 07:51 - Jul 14 with 1819 views | RichardO |
Would be nice to see a group of young lads from Wales coming through the ranks making the step up together.
But the step up to Championship level from Academy level takes some doing for individual players let alone as a group.
We do have a number of youngsters player for the different Welsh age groups so maybe a group having that international experience together can cement that competitive camaraderie to the benefit of the Swans.
But
At Championship level once the pounds signs start spinning you cannot expect up and coming players thinking they can hit the jackpot Curtis went given the chance maybe the grass is greener on the other side but sometimes not, good luck to them.Who would turn their noses up at the return of playersl ike Joe Rodon and Dan James to assist us at Championship level. "Swansea boys" who I'm sure would show the commitment like Allen has on his return, Curtis and Leon did.
I come to the last player mentioned Leon Britton not Welsh would you rather he didn't play for us? Players come and go Welsh, Irish, Scottish, English, Dutch, Spanish, the list goes on Hutchinson, Toshack, Mahoney, Latchford, Michu, Angel would you rather they didn't come to the club, happy to see players from wherever providing they show their commitment to the club and improve the quality of the team of players on the pitch for however long they stay and in whatever capacity they are appointed.
To be fair to Manning(not Welsh) had his good and bad points but he seemed to play for the shirt that is Swansea City FC up to the end of his time here.
All you can ask for really. | | | |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 08:01 - Jul 14 with 1809 views | Whiterockin |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 07:51 - Jul 14 by RichardO |
Would be nice to see a group of young lads from Wales coming through the ranks making the step up together.
But the step up to Championship level from Academy level takes some doing for individual players let alone as a group.
We do have a number of youngsters player for the different Welsh age groups so maybe a group having that international experience together can cement that competitive camaraderie to the benefit of the Swans.
But
At Championship level once the pounds signs start spinning you cannot expect up and coming players thinking they can hit the jackpot Curtis went given the chance maybe the grass is greener on the other side but sometimes not, good luck to them.Who would turn their noses up at the return of playersl ike Joe Rodon and Dan James to assist us at Championship level. "Swansea boys" who I'm sure would show the commitment like Allen has on his return, Curtis and Leon did.
I come to the last player mentioned Leon Britton not Welsh would you rather he didn't play for us? Players come and go Welsh, Irish, Scottish, English, Dutch, Spanish, the list goes on Hutchinson, Toshack, Mahoney, Latchford, Michu, Angel would you rather they didn't come to the club, happy to see players from wherever providing they show their commitment to the club and improve the quality of the team of players on the pitch for however long they stay and in whatever capacity they are appointed.
To be fair to Manning(not Welsh) had his good and bad points but he seemed to play for the shirt that is Swansea City FC up to the end of his time here.
All you can ask for really. |
Excellent post again Sir. | | | |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 08:25 - Jul 14 with 1780 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 07:51 - Jul 14 by RichardO |
Would be nice to see a group of young lads from Wales coming through the ranks making the step up together.
But the step up to Championship level from Academy level takes some doing for individual players let alone as a group.
We do have a number of youngsters player for the different Welsh age groups so maybe a group having that international experience together can cement that competitive camaraderie to the benefit of the Swans.
But
At Championship level once the pounds signs start spinning you cannot expect up and coming players thinking they can hit the jackpot Curtis went given the chance maybe the grass is greener on the other side but sometimes not, good luck to them.Who would turn their noses up at the return of playersl ike Joe Rodon and Dan James to assist us at Championship level. "Swansea boys" who I'm sure would show the commitment like Allen has on his return, Curtis and Leon did.
I come to the last player mentioned Leon Britton not Welsh would you rather he didn't play for us? Players come and go Welsh, Irish, Scottish, English, Dutch, Spanish, the list goes on Hutchinson, Toshack, Mahoney, Latchford, Michu, Angel would you rather they didn't come to the club, happy to see players from wherever providing they show their commitment to the club and improve the quality of the team of players on the pitch for however long they stay and in whatever capacity they are appointed.
To be fair to Manning(not Welsh) had his good and bad points but he seemed to play for the shirt that is Swansea City FC up to the end of his time here.
All you can ask for really. |
Lets not blur the argument for the hard of thinking.
We all celebrate our first team winning - and that means getting the best players you can. jDG, Leon, Bony, Nathan, Wayne, the big Pole, Rangel, Roberto, Siggy, Scotty, the Evil Genius, Trunds all a joy.
And money helps.
This thread is about our ability to produce young welsh qualified olayers who are good enough to get a first team jersey at Swansea City. And hopefully Wales. We are good at this - as you say, always nice to see it. Many of us remember Curt, Robbie, Charlo and Wyndham.
We were drunk with cash and agents once we hit the Prem. Instead of focusing on what we had always been good at, all of a sudden we flashed the cash below first team level, shirts given below first team level to Gorre and Zabret for years, also 7 players from Scotland (most Falkirk). Thats bizarre as Scotland produce so few good players. Grimes and McBurnie are the only two to pay off. Millions spent that could been spent on the first team and maybe kept us up.
The day we got relegated the Academy had contributed no first team player in the 7 years between Ben and Roberts. Roberts played that day nobody else good enough to be involved.
Do what we are good at below first team level. Benefits Swans and Wales. Hard work and great coaching with our local players, not flashy lazy short cuts to pander to agents.
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 08:30 - Jul 14 with 1779 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 06:34 - Jul 14 by pencoedjack |
Your British fella end of.
If you are so in love with Wales why not support a team who ply their trade in the LOW as you hate everything English.
Take the forum idiot with you 👠|
Britain is not a nation, its a political union of 4 nations.
Some would say a voluntry union, others that it has been imposed through the force of arms.
You are welsh.
And Great Britain is a geographical term for the largest island of the British Isles.
Its not a comment on the success of the British state.
Sorry if this disrupts your world view. Facts eh ..? | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 08:39 - Jul 14 with 1765 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:28 - Jul 13 by RhonddaSwans |
Arab owners and moving it to Kent? Lord talk about manipulation of a question 😂
I think the biggest lie in football is any club not wanting oil money backing it up!
Man U fans have said for years about city , human rights ,bad money, selling their soaps ect.
United is up for sale guess who most man U fans want ?that's right oil money.
If a qutar oil barran wanted the Swans we would take the money both hands.
Anyone who says no is talking crap.
As the quality of say a 15 year old Cullen training with mbappe or any other top 30 player , would make them up their game.
Do you think foden would be the same player coming through at notts county? |
Joe allen and ben at Swans, rambo and gunter at Cardiff, Ash at Hednesford, ampadu at Exeter, and trunds at wrexham … they all sort of suggest you are wrong again. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 08:46 - Jul 14 with 1761 views | onehunglow |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 18:00 - Jul 13 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Nothing "Dear me Guff" about it. I was born in the Neath Valley and i am not a Jack. I however love Swansea City AFC because it is in my part of the world. I an not a rugby fan that focuses on the next town and never goes down the valley. I am not parochial.
I love the provenance. Swansea city represent Swansea and south west Wales and Wales. it represented England in the 2014 Euro campaign. It did not represent the United Kingdom. I accepted this as a quirk of history.
You are flag waver and Unionist and put The State (Monarchy House of Lords etc) over local cultural and historical heritage. Nothing wrong with that.
You should have no issue therefore with moving Swansea city AFC out of Wales to an up and coming growing town like Ashford in Kent. It has great communications and within one hour of the UK capital London.
I asked OHL the same question. Would you support Swansea city AFC if Arab owners moved it to Kent?. He would did answer of course. |
You are not a Jack.
True
The word has morphed in recent times
You have nothing at all in common with Jacks.
There is nothing wrong with that
I admire your honesty.
I am proud to be a Swansea man ,a Jack,born and bred.
You choose to support my home town team. I have no choice as it is part of my soul | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 10:38 - Jul 14 with 1718 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 22:21 - Jul 13 by Kilkennyjack |
Been saying exactly this for years.
Our Academy sadly turned its back on our welsh lads once we had the money to sign Scots, Kenji, Zabret, and all the others. Poor.
The key for our success is developing the very best welsh players. We do it brilliantly.
Dan James being the notable brought in Welsh exception.
Only McBurnie and Grimes have had meaningful careers from those brought in from god knows where. |
Apart from all the bought in players who gave us seven years in the PL. | |
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| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 11:06 - Jul 14 with 1692 views | raynor94 |
| Nice little earner. Cymru am byth on 08:30 - Jul 14 by Kilkennyjack |
Britain is not a nation, its a political union of 4 nations.
Some would say a voluntry union, others that it has been imposed through the force of arms.
You are welsh.
And Great Britain is a geographical term for the largest island of the British Isles.
Its not a comment on the success of the British state.
Sorry if this disrupts your world view. Facts eh ..? |
I have a UK driving licence with the Union jack on, my passport says United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
British and proud of it 🇬🇧 |  |
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