Forum | And now Solicitors.. by onehunglow

And now Solicitors.. on 12:20 - Aug 1 with 1350 views

controversial_jack

Their purpose isn't to seek the truth, just like the police aren't

And now Solicitors.. on 13:03 - Aug 1 with 1327 views

There are bad apples in all walks of life.

Personally, we deal with a fantastic solicitor in Neath, Jennifer Melly (no Vis jokes needed!) and after employing her and 2 of her partners we have no worres in recommending her.

I phoned up with a problem concerning the property and the conveyancing solicitor who dealt with our purchase took care of it, sent us the email but said it was only 15 minutes so no charge.

That's a rarity. Mrs Melly herself was also fantastic. We can't tar them all with the same brush.

And now Solicitors.. on 13:13 - Aug 1 with 1320 views

And now Solicitors.. on 13:03 - Aug 1 by SullutaCreturned

Exactly. This is how it works

Daily mail approach a large number of solicitors asking them to submit dodgy documents
Vast majority decline, handful agree
Daily mail run story, not mentioning it was a tiny percentage
People think solicitors are corrupt

You can substitute solicitors for politicians, bankers, police officers, whatever. It’s easy to make a story out of a couple of bad apples.

And now Solicitors.. on 13:48 - Aug 1 with 1300 views

Exactly ,hence my point .
However,bear in mind the irony of Enquiries led by Solicitors and barristers .
They are often spouting that they are merely seeking the truth .

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And now Solicitors.. on 14:33 - Aug 1 with 1271 views

Flashberryjack

And now Solicitors.. on 13:13 - Aug 1 by jack247
Exactly. This is how it works Daily mail approach a large number of solicitors asking them to submit dodgy documents Vast majority decline, handful agree Daily mail run story, not mentioning it was a tiny percentage People think solicitors are corrupt You can substitute solicitors for politicians, bankers, police officers, whatever. It’s easy to make a story out of a couple of bad apples.

So the Daily Mail were wrong for exposing corrupt members of the legal profession ?

The reason why people think some solicitors are corrupt, is because many are, and I've had first hand experiences of just how devious and swindling they can be.

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And now Solicitors.. on 14:36 - Aug 1 with 1259 views

Gwyn737

And now Solicitors.. on 13:13 - Aug 1 by jack247
Exactly. This is how it works Daily mail approach a large number of solicitors asking them to submit dodgy documents Vast majority decline, handful agree Daily mail run story, not mentioning it was a tiny percentage People think solicitors are corrupt You can substitute solicitors for politicians, bankers, police officers, whatever. It’s easy to make a story out of a couple of bad apples.

Exactly.

Wouldn’t be much of a Mail headline if it said 99.9% of solicitors are honest.

Glad they were caught, mind.

And now Solicitors.. on 14:40 - Aug 1 with 1262 views

And now Solicitors.. on 14:33 - Aug 1 by Flashberryjack
So the Daily Mail were wrong for exposing corrupt members of the legal profession ? The reason why people think some solicitors are corrupt, is because many are, and I've had first hand experiences of just how devious and swindling they can be.

I haven’t said that. The firms that have gone along with it are bang to rights.

What I have said, is that they approach let’s say 100 solicitors, 3 agree to falsify documents 97 don’t.

At no point will they ever say that 97% of solicitors approached turned us down, they’ll just scream corruption.

The reason many people think solicitors are corrupt is articles exactly like this.

And now Solicitors.. on 14:58 - Aug 1 with 1253 views

Superjan

And now Solicitors.. on 14:33 - Aug 1 by Flashberryjack
So the Daily Mail were wrong for exposing corrupt members of the legal profession ? The reason why people think some solicitors are corrupt, is because many are, and I've had first hand experiences of just how devious and swindling they can be.

I’m glad you said “ some “ . I’d be interested to know about your first hand experiences .

And now Solicitors.. on 15:35 - Aug 1 with 1227 views

And now Solicitors.. on 14:58 - Aug 1 by Superjan
I’m glad you said “ some “ . I’d be interested to know about your first hand experiences .

For a start ,many in the legal profession are Masons

If you attend court,you will possible see and hear inferences of membership that only fellow craft will understand .

Laws are passed by politicians,often barristers by profession . Consider why laws are so esoteric and need learned counsel to explain away what dishonest means or intent or appropriation .
Consider the latest abomination at the murdered Police Custody Sergeant making out his client was not of sound mind and had a traumatic childhood.

Jury did not believe him ,neither did judge ,ergo ,he was lying through his teeth for his client seeking to have him back on the streets earlier than he could expect .

No profession more corrupt . Police and fire fighters are morally on another planet .

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And now Solicitors.. on 15:38 - Aug 1 with 1222 views

And now Solicitors.. on 14:33 - Aug 1 by Flashberryjack
So the Daily Mail were wrong for exposing corrupt members of the legal profession ? The reason why people think some solicitors are corrupt, is because many are, and I've had first hand experiences of just how devious and swindling they can be.

Many are? Any idea how many you mean by "many" 5, 10, 15%?

And now Solicitors.. on 15:41 - Aug 1 with 1218 views

And now Solicitors.. on 15:38 - Aug 1 by SullutaCreturned
Many are? Any idea how many you mean by "many" 5, 10, 15%?

Hard to say but I’d suggest100% put themselves and their business first and foremost .
When you are on real shite it’s why you need a “ good” one which is oxymoronic but vital.

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And now Solicitors.. on 15:59 - Aug 1 with 1194 views

And now Solicitors.. on 15:41 - Aug 1 by onehunglow
Hard to say but I’d suggest100% put themselves and their business first and foremost . When you are on real shite it’s why you need a “ good” one which is oxymoronic but vital.

You’d suggest 100% of solicitors put themselves and their business ahead of their legal or moral obligations?

And now Solicitors.. on 17:10 - Aug 1 with 1165 views

And now Solicitors.. on 15:59 - Aug 1 by jack247
You’d suggest 100% of solicitors put themselves and their business ahead of their legal or moral obligations?

Yes
You?

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And now Solicitors.. on 17:23 - Aug 1 with 1154 views

And now Solicitors.. on 17:10 - Aug 1 by onehunglow
Yes You?

Obviously not. It’s an absurd statement.

And now Solicitors.. on 17:37 - Aug 1 with 1145 views

Wingstandwood

No surprise whatsoever!!!!!

I know of an ex-solicitor who wrote a book that protested about a "miscarriage of justice" by saying/writing that a child killer, young mother killer and O.A.P killer was innocent.

His book told blatant LIES and LIED about "proved 100% beyond all reasonable doubt" syngeneic evidence and incidences that was corroborated via numerous sources.

The fact that the 'court stenographer/court reporter' made sure that everything was written into stone made no difference whatsoever. Even that was LIED about. Take a while and evaluate that.

What does that tell you hey???? When someone has to LIE to pursue an utterly immoral claim of 'injustice' it just goes to show the level some vermin are happy to stoop to does it not.

Argus!

And now Solicitors.. on 17:44 - Aug 1 with 1140 views

And now Solicitors.. on 15:35 - Aug 1 by onehunglow

If a solicitor misleads a court he could be in real trouble. What he said about sound mind and traumatic childhood, was it him saying that or was one a psychiatrists opinin and the other a provable fact?

it didn't mean the jury didn't believe it but maybe they thought the crime was serious enough he needed locking up and no excuses could counter that?

And now Solicitors.. on 17:47 - Aug 1 with 1137 views

And now Solicitors.. on 17:23 - Aug 1 by jack247
Obviously not. It’s an absurd statement.

Well not absurd at all ,not unless you see it that way .
are you suggesting solicitors and barristers are 100% genuinely giving pre eminence to the circumstances of the client for altruistic reasons.

Solicitors make a living out if people s misery,anxiety,worry ,domestic,relationship problems and make a wonderful living out of extended litigation issues.
Don’t ever suggest my comments are remotely absurd .

You disagree and that’s fine by me .

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And now Solicitors.. on 17:51 - Aug 1 with 1135 views

And now Solicitors.. on 17:44 - Aug 1 by SullutaCreturned
If a solicitor misleads a court he could be in real trouble. What he said about sound mind and traumatic childhood, was it him saying that or was one a psychiatrists opinin and the other a provable fact? it didn't mean the jury didn't believe it but maybe they thought the crime was serious enough he needed locking up and no excuses could counter that?

Cat
Casuistry and Sophistry are their tools .
Even a cursory critique of much what they spout should concern.

I am amazed at their support on here .

Proves my point really

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And now Solicitors.. on 17:53 - Aug 1 with 1131 views

And now Solicitors.. on 17:47 - Aug 1 by onehunglow

I think you’re misunderstanding what 100% means. The comment was completely absurd.

And now Solicitors.. on 17:56 - Aug 1 with 1129 views

And now Solicitors.. on 17:44 - Aug 1 by SullutaCreturned
If a solicitor misleads a court he could be in real trouble. What he said about sound mind and traumatic childhood, was it him saying that or was one a psychiatrists opinin and the other a provable fact? it didn't mean the jury didn't believe it but maybe they thought the crime was serious enough he needed locking up and no excuses could counter that?

A difficult childhood is a hackneyed example of what I mean.
It is no coincidence “ no comment” is used to await just what case CPS have .
I’ve known countless people who wanted to cough the job only for the legal rep at station tell him to keep Schtum. This is to see if thee are loopholes and nothing to do with “ justice”

Client walks and it enhances his reputation amongst criminals . Why do you think specific ones are requested ?

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And now Solicitors.. on 17:59 - Aug 1 with 1122 views

Gwyn737

And now Solicitors.. on 17:47 - Aug 1 by onehunglow

Not for altruistic reasons but to make sure that as far as possible convictions are solid.

I can’t think of any professions doing the job purely for altruistic reasons, otherwise they wouldn’t need paying.

And now Solicitors.. on 18:05 - Aug 1 with 1121 views

Flashberryjack

And now Solicitors.. on 15:38 - Aug 1 by SullutaCreturned
Many are? Any idea how many you mean by "many" 5, 10, 15%?

Without checking out every solicitor in the UK, no, I have no idea how many solicitors are corrupt.

But I do know that there are some, from personal experience.

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And now Solicitors.. on 18:42 - Aug 1 with 1087 views

builthjack

And now Solicitors.. on 18:05 - Aug 1 by Flashberryjack
Without checking out every solicitor in the UK, no, I have no idea how many solicitors are corrupt. But I do know that there are some, from personal experience.

Many are corrupt yes.
Some will advise what story their client should tell, in order to get them off. Lies.
They are paid for it too.

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And now Solicitors.. on 20:37 - Aug 1 with 1016 views

And now Solicitors.. on 18:42 - Aug 1 by builthjack
Many are corrupt yes. Some will advise what story their client should tell, in order to get them off. Lies. They are paid for it too.

And some police lie, some doctors lie, some bosses lie....some gfootball fans lie. Thats the world for you. There are liars everywhere.

And now Solicitors.. on 20:47 - Aug 1 with 1006 views