| Saturday Job 08:33 - Aug 16 with 2321 views | onehunglow |
In 1998 ,48% of teens had Saturday jobs
Now ,it’s 24%
Half.
Why is that ? |  |
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| Saturday Job on 08:43 - Aug 16 with 1706 views | Scotia |
I have said similar on here previously, I have no I idea why the running of the Swansea.com on a match day is pretty much reliant on foreign students and contractors.
I know a few stewards in most cases it's a £60 (plus holiday pay) to hang around a couple of hours before the game, show people to their seats, tell them to stop vaping and watch the football. Similar for turnstile operators and catering staff.
There's a rolling recruitment campaign because they can't fill the posts.
https://www.swanseacity.com/ne | | | |
| Saturday Job on 08:43 - Aug 16 with 1706 views | Whiterockin |
Sunday opening? |  | | |
| Saturday Job on 08:46 - Aug 16 with 1695 views | KeithHaynes |
Molly coddled by mummy, or too stupid, lazy, criminality, drugs, alcohol. |  |
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| Saturday Job on 08:47 - Aug 16 with 1691 views | onehunglow |
| Saturday Job on 08:43 - Aug 16 by Whiterockin |
Sunday opening? |
Ok then,weekend jobs
They have more opportunity to earn some money to save up for “ stuff”
Save….thats the rub . | |
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| Saturday Job on 08:51 - Aug 16 with 1671 views | Whiterockin |
| Saturday Job on 08:46 - Aug 16 by KeithHaynes |
Molly coddled by mummy, or too stupid, lazy, criminality, drugs, alcohol. |
Is exactly the point, if parents stopped spoiling their kids and they had to work for the nice things in life more would get the habit of working. | | | |
| Saturday Job on 08:53 - Aug 16 with 1665 views | onehunglow |
| Saturday Job on 08:46 - Aug 16 by KeithHaynes |
Molly coddled by mummy, or too stupid, lazy, criminality, drugs, alcohol. |
I couldn’t have got away with that .
You’re making gender assumptions there
I’m out down the beach . I” ll get my bathers  | |
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| Saturday Job on 09:50 - Aug 16 with 1639 views | Gwyn737 |
A few off the top of my head:
1. School leaving age raised to 18 so many more still studying
2. Rise of gig economy so employers save money with flexible 0 hours type contracts
3. Fear of health and safety regs or paying cash in hand
4. Parents more worried about kids getting too and from work
Im sure there are some down to negative reasons but just doing my usual bit before another thread decends into an “aren’t all young people awful” spiral 😉 | | | |
| Saturday Job on 10:00 - Aug 16 with 1630 views | Whiterockin |
| Saturday Job on 09:50 - Aug 16 by Gwyn737 |
A few off the top of my head:
1. School leaving age raised to 18 so many more still studying
2. Rise of gig economy so employers save money with flexible 0 hours type contracts
3. Fear of health and safety regs or paying cash in hand
4. Parents more worried about kids getting too and from work
Im sure there are some down to negative reasons but just doing my usual bit before another thread decends into an “aren’t all young people awful” spiral 😉 |
Gwyn, I'm not saying the kids are awful, but the parents are just spoiling them. How much of it is the parents are spending a lot of time working and try and spoil their children because of the lack of time they spend with them, a sort of guilt trade off. Take a step back, if you didn't spoil the children so much you could work less and spend more time with them, or send them out for a part time job. | | | |
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| Saturday Job on 10:05 - Aug 16 with 1623 views | Gwyn737 |
| Saturday Job on 10:00 - Aug 16 by Whiterockin |
Gwyn, I'm not saying the kids are awful, but the parents are just spoiling them. How much of it is the parents are spending a lot of time working and try and spoil their children because of the lack of time they spend with them, a sort of guilt trade off. Take a step back, if you didn't spoil the children so much you could work less and spend more time with them, or send them out for a part time job. |
There’s definitely some of that but many are forced into it as they need the money.
I don’t have the figures but I wonder how many more examples of both parents working since 1998. | | | |
| Saturday Job on 10:14 - Aug 16 with 1613 views | Whiterockin |
| Saturday Job on 10:05 - Aug 16 by Gwyn737 |
There’s definitely some of that but many are forced into it as they need the money.
I don’t have the figures but I wonder how many more examples of both parents working since 1998. |
Maybe the second job by parents is reducing the job availability for children. | | | |
| Saturday Job on 10:18 - Aug 16 with 1605 views | Gwyn737 |
| Saturday Job on 10:14 - Aug 16 by Whiterockin |
Maybe the second job by parents is reducing the job availability for children. |
Definitely.
But I’m sure in many cases it’s a necessity. | | | |
| Saturday Job on 10:26 - Aug 16 with 1603 views | AnotherJohn |
Difficult one, although I agree that part-time work wouldn't hurt at the right time. I myself did a paper round right though from age 14 to when I was in the sixth form, and at one stage even had a separate Sunday round as well. This served me well, as when I became a university student I was able to get a job with the Post Office in the Xmas vacations since I already knew the "walks". However, when my son was in the sixth form I discouraged him from seeking part-time work as it seemed to me the STEM A levels he was taking needed his full attention. He is coming into Year 4 of the M.Eng now and I have taken the same line as failure would render useless the considerable investment in fees and living support I've put in, which far exceeds what he would be likely to earn. | | | |
| Saturday Job on 10:30 - Aug 16 with 1591 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
They aren’t joining the agencies. |  |
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| Saturday Job on 10:34 - Aug 16 with 1582 views | onehunglow |
I employed several Saturday kids.
They enjoyed it mainly as it was an introduction into adult working lives .
Many got full time jobs out of it
I worked in the family business on Saturday to basically pay for my fancy pants and flowered shirts [Post edited 16 Aug 2024 10:35]
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| Saturday Job on 11:29 - Aug 16 with 1515 views | Gwyn737 |
| Saturday Job on 10:26 - Aug 16 by AnotherJohn |
Difficult one, although I agree that part-time work wouldn't hurt at the right time. I myself did a paper round right though from age 14 to when I was in the sixth form, and at one stage even had a separate Sunday round as well. This served me well, as when I became a university student I was able to get a job with the Post Office in the Xmas vacations since I already knew the "walks". However, when my son was in the sixth form I discouraged him from seeking part-time work as it seemed to me the STEM A levels he was taking needed his full attention. He is coming into Year 4 of the M.Eng now and I have taken the same line as failure would render useless the considerable investment in fees and living support I've put in, which far exceeds what he would be likely to earn. |
Similar for me but mine’s a bit younger.
Also he’s keen on sport but a weekend job means he wouldn’t be able to play.
I’d rather give him pocket money based on schoolwork and jobs around the house. [Post edited 16 Aug 2024 11:38]
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| Saturday Job on 16:09 - Aug 16 with 1392 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Saturday Job on 09:50 - Aug 16 by Gwyn737 |
A few off the top of my head:
1. School leaving age raised to 18 so many more still studying
2. Rise of gig economy so employers save money with flexible 0 hours type contracts
3. Fear of health and safety regs or paying cash in hand
4. Parents more worried about kids getting too and from work
Im sure there are some down to negative reasons but just doing my usual bit before another thread decends into an “aren’t all young people awful” spiral 😉 |
Well whle there are clearly reasons why I'll stand up for 2 young people, my son and his girlfriend.
Both are 15 and bith are looking for part time jobs/weekend jobs.
I suffered from an extended bout f ill health and didn't work for over 5 years. As soon as my health was restored I started looking for work and not only for the money. We both wanted to set a good eample for our son, it looks like we succeeded.
He wants "stuff" and while we do spoil him we also tell him if he wants more he has to work for it.
I'm sure there are plenty of lazy, feckless parents who have churned out sinilar kids who think other people should pay for their stuff. I'm also sure a lot go onto further education. The drop is quite large but the real question is, how do we reverse the trend? | | | |
| Saturday Job on 17:20 - Aug 16 with 1350 views | Gwyn737 |
| Saturday Job on 16:09 - Aug 16 by SullutaCreturned |
Well whle there are clearly reasons why I'll stand up for 2 young people, my son and his girlfriend.
Both are 15 and bith are looking for part time jobs/weekend jobs.
I suffered from an extended bout f ill health and didn't work for over 5 years. As soon as my health was restored I started looking for work and not only for the money. We both wanted to set a good eample for our son, it looks like we succeeded.
He wants "stuff" and while we do spoil him we also tell him if he wants more he has to work for it.
I'm sure there are plenty of lazy, feckless parents who have churned out sinilar kids who think other people should pay for their stuff. I'm also sure a lot go onto further education. The drop is quite large but the real question is, how do we reverse the trend? |
Is the search difficult, Cat? | | | |
| Saturday Job on 17:39 - Aug 16 with 1337 views | Scotia |
| Saturday Job on 17:20 - Aug 16 by Gwyn737 |
Is the search difficult, Cat? |
At the age of 15 I bet it is difficult. Paper and milk rounds don't really exist anymore and there won;t be much else open to them.
Once at 16 it should be easier - but the minimum wage for that group is under £7 an hour until they are 18. That needs to increase. | | | |
| Saturday Job on 17:50 - Aug 16 with 1329 views | Gwyn737 |
| Saturday Job on 17:39 - Aug 16 by Scotia |
At the age of 15 I bet it is difficult. Paper and milk rounds don't really exist anymore and there won;t be much else open to them.
Once at 16 it should be easier - but the minimum wage for that group is under £7 an hour until they are 18. That needs to increase. |
Good addition to my earlier list 👍 | | | |
| Saturday Job on 17:50 - Aug 16 with 1329 views | Boundy |
Looking at the recent events I'd say too busy rioting and looting . | |
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| Saturday Job on 17:54 - Aug 16 with 1328 views | hobo |
Less jobs due to the hiring of cheaper workers from abroad |  | | |
| Saturday Job on 17:54 - Aug 16 with 1327 views | hobo |
| Saturday Job on 17:54 - Aug 16 by hobo |
Less jobs due to the hiring of cheaper workers from abroad |
Who then send most of their money back to their home country rather than spend it here | | | |
| Saturday Job on 18:01 - Aug 16 with 1322 views | Gwyn737 |
| Saturday Job on 17:39 - Aug 16 by Scotia |
At the age of 15 I bet it is difficult. Paper and milk rounds don't really exist anymore and there won;t be much else open to them.
Once at 16 it should be easier - but the minimum wage for that group is under £7 an hour until they are 18. That needs to increase. |
Good addition to my earlier list 👍 | | | |
| Saturday Job on 18:05 - Aug 16 with 1314 views | Scotia |
| Saturday Job on 17:54 - Aug 16 by hobo |
Less jobs due to the hiring of cheaper workers from abroad |
In an official, on the books job that's a complete myth. | | | |
| Saturday Job on 18:11 - Aug 16 with 1306 views | hobo |
| Saturday Job on 18:05 - Aug 16 by Scotia |
In an official, on the books job that's a complete myth. |
Simple supply and demand. If there's a large pool of workers available, then you can get away with paying bottom dollar | | | |
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