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Class. 10:39 - Nov 18 with 748 viewsonehunglow

I see banter described as working class and wonder as to just what the living bejesus defines this.

Language,content or is it job driven.

I don't see why ,for example,swearing is seen as banter,and insulting using profanities is seen as somehow the domain for "working class" people.

I can recall from my youth years of watching "working class" people avoid bad language ,and blasphemy in everyday conversation.

Ban Language /banter is universal now and as prevalent in Eton as it is in Penlan Comp.

Plenty of people from the most humble backgrounds are now highly literate ,educated and able to exchange views in a manner that would be appropriate in any social milieu.

Class and our obsession with it has and always will kill this country and it's progress.

Let's make this a great discussion.It's sensitive enough.
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Class. on 10:49 - Nov 18 with 508 viewsCatullus

The so called "upper classes" can swear with the best of us. Didn't a study say that more intelligent people swore most often?

I do swear quite a bit but rarely directly at people, it's often an "Oh FFS" directed at myself! Sometimes at other drivers.

I rarely swear in front of my wife or son, or other family members, it's the way I was brought up. When with friends the language is usually very blue.

I don't think class comes into it. It is now a social norm regardless of class. Personally I thinjk the old class structure is dying out to be replaced by the have's, the have nots and the never will haves. In other words money will define the structure.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Class. on 10:57 - Nov 18 with 501 viewsexhmrc1

Your a bit out of touch. Penlan comp closed years ago.
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Class. on 11:09 - Nov 18 with 497 viewsonehunglow

Class. on 10:57 - Nov 18 by exhmrc1

Your a bit out of touch. Penlan comp closed years ago.


Do they not have schools in Penlan anymore then. You get my drift though,dontcha?

Thanks taxman for the reply.A good one too.

Nobody ahs ever defined "class" .It is purely subjective and a term,in my eyes,to pigeon hole people whether they be "toff" or "worker"

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Class. on 11:22 - Nov 18 with 493 viewsCatullus

Class. on 11:09 - Nov 18 by onehunglow

Do they not have schools in Penlan anymore then. You get my drift though,dontcha?

Thanks taxman for the reply.A good one too.

Nobody ahs ever defined "class" .It is purely subjective and a term,in my eyes,to pigeon hole people whether they be "toff" or "worker"


These days the toffs are those who don't need benefits but still claim what they can get away with. The workers are those who need benefits and because of need they are lazy scroungers, feckless wastrels who just need to work harder.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Class. on 11:29 - Nov 18 with 487 viewsonehunglow

If class is about wealth ,where does that place multi millionaire ,mansion living Wayne Rooney.

If class about schooling and family,plenty of old public schools destroyed by drugs and living in the gutter of life

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Class. on 11:29 - Nov 18 with 487 viewsBoundy

I'm no shrinking violet but these days I cringe at the language used around kids and in general in the public domain swearing has now become the accepted norm , To converse without throwing in the F or c word is beyond the wit of most nowadays. Standards of common courtesy have dropped remarkable so which is a pity imo

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Class. on 11:31 - Nov 18 with 485 viewsFieryJack

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mag

You can find out what class you are by filling in this quick survey.

I did it 7 years ago and come up as a member of the Precariat.

I did it today and I'm still a member of the Precariat!
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Class. on 11:33 - Nov 18 with 482 viewsonehunglow

Class. on 11:31 - Nov 18 by FieryJack

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mag

You can find out what class you are by filling in this quick survey.

I did it 7 years ago and come up as a member of the Precariat.

I did it today and I'm still a member of the Precariat!


Thanks fiery .O 'll ley ya know

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Class. on 11:37 - Nov 18 with 474 viewsonehunglow

Class. on 11:33 - Nov 18 by onehunglow

Thanks fiery .O 'll ley ya know


Well,it's shxte as I come out Elite

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Class. on 11:38 - Nov 18 with 472 viewsFieryJack

Class. on 11:37 - Nov 18 by onehunglow

Well,it's shxte as I come out Elite


No surprise there then - after all you do live on the Wirral 😂
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Class. on 11:39 - Nov 18 with 471 viewsBoundy

Myself : who'd have guessed coming from a 3 bedroom pokey bungalow with 4 siblings, a father who at time struggled to bring home a decent wage, left school with not even a "Swansea certificate" to my name.
Technical middle class
This is a small, distinctive and prosperous new class group. According to the Great British Class Survey results, lots of people in this group:

Mix socially with people similar to themselves
Work in research, science and technical fields
Enjoy emerging culture such as going to the gym and using social media

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Class. on 11:39 - Nov 18 with 470 viewsCatullus

Class. on 11:31 - Nov 18 by FieryJack

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mag

You can find out what class you are by filling in this quick survey.

I did it 7 years ago and come up as a member of the Precariat.

I did it today and I'm still a member of the Precariat!


I am apparently "Established Middle Class" HUH!

I had to look up precariat. Never heard of it before.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Class. on 11:40 - Nov 18 with 466 viewsFieryJack

Class. on 11:39 - Nov 18 by Catullus

I am apparently "Established Middle Class" HUH!

I had to look up precariat. Never heard of it before.


I think that category was only introduced about 10 years ago.
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Class. on 11:43 - Nov 18 with 463 viewsonehunglow

I kinda proven my idea that class is garbage and we should all refuse to be stereotyped.

An expensive school,a high paid job does not a great human being make nor does lack of wealth or bad school make a dullard ,just one where aspiration is held back by circumstance.

Phrases that screws me? "Im working class and proud of it".Ive never been able to handle it.

"It makes me physically sick"

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Class. on 11:49 - Nov 18 with 454 viewscontroversial_jack

The best definition of social class is occupation
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Class. on 11:57 - Nov 18 with 452 viewsonehunglow

Class. on 11:49 - Nov 18 by controversial_jack

The best definition of social class is occupation


Not necessarily so as many solititors/accountant,doctors have humble roots ,ie workng class to many.

I have a niece who is a GP that went to State school and doesn't have the attitude associated with the middle classes/posh.

Our good Professor had himself the most humble roots and schooling and I d suggest he' d be mortified to be refered to a middle class.

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Class. on 12:00 - Nov 18 with 450 viewscontroversial_jack

Class. on 11:57 - Nov 18 by onehunglow

Not necessarily so as many solititors/accountant,doctors have humble roots ,ie workng class to many.

I have a niece who is a GP that went to State school and doesn't have the attitude associated with the middle classes/posh.

Our good Professor had himself the most humble roots and schooling and I d suggest he' d be mortified to be refered to a middle class.


It doesn't matter about beginnings, social class is fluid. It's not the only indicator, but it's the most reliable
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Class. on 12:03 - Nov 18 with 449 viewsonehunglow

Thanks for engaging with me on this seriously. You are correct in my view BUT it isnt how people see themselves or are perceived.

If one talks "posh" ,immediately you are catagoried,if you talk like a fan site banter boy ,,you re working

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Class. on 12:44 - Nov 18 with 448 viewsNeath_Jack

Class. on 12:03 - Nov 18 by onehunglow

Thanks for engaging with me on this seriously. You are correct in my view BUT it isnt how people see themselves or are perceived.

If one talks "posh" ,immediately you are catagoried,if you talk like a fan site banter boy ,,you re working


It’s only you that continually brings class up 🙄

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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Class. on 13:14 - Nov 18 with 440 viewsonehunglow

Class. on 12:44 - Nov 18 by Neath_Jack

It’s only you that continually brings class up 🙄


Pity isnt it. If you don't like a subject,why waste time responding. You have to post differently on this site. It has changed.

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Class. on 13:37 - Nov 18 with 434 viewsNeath_Jack

Class. on 13:14 - Nov 18 by onehunglow

Pity isnt it. If you don't like a subject,why waste time responding. You have to post differently on this site. It has changed.


Go on then, bump some threads up by other people about class.

You’re always mentioning it.

I have to post differently to what 😂😂

I

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Class. on 13:39 - Nov 18 with 431 viewsonehunglow

Try again only this time without the poison.

As I say,if you can't stick to other site where you can .

Its not that hard,friend

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Class. on 13:48 - Nov 18 with 425 viewsNeath_Jack

Class. on 13:39 - Nov 18 by onehunglow

Try again only this time without the poison.

As I say,if you can't stick to other site where you can .

Its not that hard,friend


No poison at all, show me where?

You’ve always posted to niggle and annoy, but don’t like it when it’s directed back at you. Even though my post in this thread was to highlight that class isn’t seen as a problem or issue anymore, apart from in your view.

And as for telling me where to post 😂

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Class. on 13:51 - Nov 18 with 416 viewsNotLoyal

This is class
https://www.express.co.uk/news

And proof anything is achievable.

OK I've changed it.
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Class. on 13:59 - Nov 18 with 407 viewsFireboy2

I see my comment on the other site has been taken wrongly.

I said working class banter, not banter is working cless 🙄
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