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Fauci's deadly corruption 23:11 - Jan 26 with 3097 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Turns out he conspired with NIH Director Francis Collins to suppress the fact the virus looks like it was man-made in a lab.

And they paid off two doctors with a $9,000,000 research grant to keep it quiet.


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Fauci's deadly corruption on 23:12 - Jan 26 with 2458 viewsgadgetuk

Please provide a source that isn't Fox News - then I will consider it
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 23:22 - Jan 26 with 2448 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Fauci's deadly corruption on 23:12 - Jan 26 by gadgetuk

Please provide a source that isn't Fox News - then I will consider it


Mainstream media loves Fauci. They'll never report it.

Are you saying that Fox forged the documents that prove this? Are you really that hard-headed?
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 23:28 - Jan 26 with 2423 viewsAjack_Kerouac

Fauci's deadly corruption on 23:12 - Jan 26 by gadgetuk

Please provide a source that isn't Fox News - then I will consider it


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Fauci's deadly corruption on 23:35 - Jan 26 with 2415 viewsAjack_Kerouac

Search for the following story...

- Memorandum written on August 21, 2021, by U.S. Marine Major Joseph Murphy to the Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD).

- Major Murphy’s analysis is based on a $14.2 million research grant application “Project DEFUSE: Defusing the Threat of Bat-borne Coronaviruses” by now-disgraced scientist Peter Daszak, head of the EcoHealth Alliance, and submitted to the DoD’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), as well as other documents to which we do not yet have access.

Daszak’s research team included the “Bat Woman” Zheng-Li Shi of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Ralph Baric of the University of North Carolina, Linfa Wang of the Duke University-National University of Singapore Medical School, Tonie Rocke of the United States Geological Survey National Wildlife Health Center in Wisconsin, and Jerome Unidad of the Palo Alto Research Center in California.

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Fauci's deadly corruption on 06:38 - Jan 27 with 2367 viewsProfessor

Fauci's deadly corruption on 23:22 - Jan 26 by Tummer_from_Texas

Mainstream media loves Fauci. They'll never report it.

Are you saying that Fox forged the documents that prove this? Are you really that hard-headed?
[Post edited 26 Jan 2022 23:23]


This has been doing the rounds for some time. Anderson got hounded off social media last year. Plenty of other genomic studies and lots of rapid funding flying around the world at that time.
Fox are making 2 + 2 =42
This is probably the best discussion of origins

https://www.sciencedirect.com/


What you need to remember the zoonotic event needs to happen just once and not necessarily where the human disease emerged. The original source may never be known
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 09:11 - Jan 27 with 2314 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Fauci's deadly corruption on 06:38 - Jan 27 by Professor

This has been doing the rounds for some time. Anderson got hounded off social media last year. Plenty of other genomic studies and lots of rapid funding flying around the world at that time.
Fox are making 2 + 2 =42
This is probably the best discussion of origins

https://www.sciencedirect.com/


What you need to remember the zoonotic event needs to happen just once and not necessarily where the human disease emerged. The original source may never be known


The probability is always going to be a lab in the city which just happened to be doing gain of function research on coronaviruses when the coronavirus outbreak occurred.

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Fauci's deadly corruption on 10:12 - Jan 27 with 2294 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Fauci's deadly corruption on 06:38 - Jan 27 by Professor

This has been doing the rounds for some time. Anderson got hounded off social media last year. Plenty of other genomic studies and lots of rapid funding flying around the world at that time.
Fox are making 2 + 2 =42
This is probably the best discussion of origins

https://www.sciencedirect.com/


What you need to remember the zoonotic event needs to happen just once and not necessarily where the human disease emerged. The original source may never be known


The evidence includes the fact the Chinese have resisted attempts to investigate the source, despite having a viral lab on the scene and that the original whistleblowers have vanished.

Why would you block an investigation and disappear witnesses?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 10:27 - Jan 27 with 2283 viewsItchySphincter

Fauci's deadly corruption on 23:22 - Jan 26 by Tummer_from_Texas

Mainstream media loves Fauci. They'll never report it.

Are you saying that Fox forged the documents that prove this? Are you really that hard-headed?
[Post edited 26 Jan 2022 23:23]


Fox News isn’t main stream media??

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Fauci's deadly corruption on 10:32 - Jan 27 with 2273 viewsKeithHaynes

Fauci's deadly corruption on 10:27 - Jan 27 by ItchySphincter

Fox News isn’t main stream media??


I find Fox a bit odd but very inquisitive to their agenda which is currently republican but hasn’t always been. My view is if Fox isn’t mainstream then neither are CNN.

A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 10:36 - Jan 27 with 2264 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Fauci's deadly corruption on 10:32 - Jan 27 by KeithHaynes

I find Fox a bit odd but very inquisitive to their agenda which is currently republican but hasn’t always been. My view is if Fox isn’t mainstream then neither are CNN.


True, they are both similarly distorted.

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Fauci's deadly corruption on 10:42 - Jan 27 with 2257 viewsItchySphincter

Fauci's deadly corruption on 10:32 - Jan 27 by KeithHaynes

I find Fox a bit odd but very inquisitive to their agenda which is currently republican but hasn’t always been. My view is if Fox isn’t mainstream then neither are CNN.


I think on the whole they’re both considered mainstream media. They’re not kooky little papers, they’re global news agencies the monitor the same news wires, for the same stories, only difference is they have different agendas and target demographics.

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Fauci's deadly corruption on 10:56 - Jan 27 with 2245 viewsBest_loser

Fauci's deadly corruption on 10:32 - Jan 27 by KeithHaynes

I find Fox a bit odd but very inquisitive to their agenda which is currently republican but hasn’t always been. My view is if Fox isn’t mainstream then neither are CNN.


Fox news was started by Murdoch in 1996 with Roger ailes as boss

It has always been Republican
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 11:29 - Jan 27 with 2219 viewsProfessor

Fauci's deadly corruption on 10:12 - Jan 27 by JACKMANANDBOY

The evidence includes the fact the Chinese have resisted attempts to investigate the source, despite having a viral lab on the scene and that the original whistleblowers have vanished.

Why would you block an investigation and disappear witnesses?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p
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That's not related to the lab though-that's the spread of disease in Wuhan which was evidently covered up for some time. The evidence of any lab-created virus is at best flimsy and largely put our by equally vested interests like Alina Chan and through people who are not virologists. However the actions of people like Peter Dansak have not helped the clarity and have hindered thorough examination. Chinese science is in an interesting place-it's a powerhouse of work, but some very dubious morals and ethics compared to how I would work. And as such I would take any Chinese claims with a fistful rather than pinch of salt.

What I do know is that no serious virologist thinks this is man made. Whilst a leak of stored isolate is certainly possible (and one that can't be ruled out), the rise of variants of SARSCoV2 is a clear illustration of how rapidly RNA viruses evolve and that a natural origin is always more likely.

Now if you follow Chinese media the claim is that it was introduced from seafood imported from the US or American Athletes at a youth games. Equally as preposterous as some of the rubbish spouted by the brainwashed alt right lovers on here.

The Fox piece is a right wing hit. Simple as. Then again they seem to be supporting Putin over Ukraine, which tells you all you need to know about the veracity of anything they claim.
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 11:35 - Jan 27 with 2214 viewsBest_loser

Without cooperation from China , it can never be proved it came from a lab
China will never do that so nobody will ever know for sure
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 11:41 - Jan 27 with 2206 viewsProfessor

Fauci's deadly corruption on 11:35 - Jan 27 by Best_loser

Without cooperation from China , it can never be proved it came from a lab
China will never do that so nobody will ever know for sure


I seriously doubt we will ever know. In fact, what is more important is understanding where future risks are and how we can minimise them. Next time not be so lucky as a relatively mild coronavirus.
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 15:00 - Jan 27 with 2114 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Fauci's deadly corruption on 11:29 - Jan 27 by Professor

That's not related to the lab though-that's the spread of disease in Wuhan which was evidently covered up for some time. The evidence of any lab-created virus is at best flimsy and largely put our by equally vested interests like Alina Chan and through people who are not virologists. However the actions of people like Peter Dansak have not helped the clarity and have hindered thorough examination. Chinese science is in an interesting place-it's a powerhouse of work, but some very dubious morals and ethics compared to how I would work. And as such I would take any Chinese claims with a fistful rather than pinch of salt.

What I do know is that no serious virologist thinks this is man made. Whilst a leak of stored isolate is certainly possible (and one that can't be ruled out), the rise of variants of SARSCoV2 is a clear illustration of how rapidly RNA viruses evolve and that a natural origin is always more likely.

Now if you follow Chinese media the claim is that it was introduced from seafood imported from the US or American Athletes at a youth games. Equally as preposterous as some of the rubbish spouted by the brainwashed alt right lovers on here.

The Fox piece is a right wing hit. Simple as. Then again they seem to be supporting Putin over Ukraine, which tells you all you need to know about the veracity of anything they claim.


"What I do know is that no serious virologist thinks this is man made. "

Let me correct that for you.

What I do know is that no serious virologist paid by big Pharma thinks this is man made.

As usual no actual data, pure opinion, obviously not looked at all the evidence.
How anyone can ignore the massive evidence of Gain of Function by the US and China is totally beyond me.
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 15:32 - Jan 27 with 2101 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Fauci's deadly corruption on 11:29 - Jan 27 by Professor

That's not related to the lab though-that's the spread of disease in Wuhan which was evidently covered up for some time. The evidence of any lab-created virus is at best flimsy and largely put our by equally vested interests like Alina Chan and through people who are not virologists. However the actions of people like Peter Dansak have not helped the clarity and have hindered thorough examination. Chinese science is in an interesting place-it's a powerhouse of work, but some very dubious morals and ethics compared to how I would work. And as such I would take any Chinese claims with a fistful rather than pinch of salt.

What I do know is that no serious virologist thinks this is man made. Whilst a leak of stored isolate is certainly possible (and one that can't be ruled out), the rise of variants of SARSCoV2 is a clear illustration of how rapidly RNA viruses evolve and that a natural origin is always more likely.

Now if you follow Chinese media the claim is that it was introduced from seafood imported from the US or American Athletes at a youth games. Equally as preposterous as some of the rubbish spouted by the brainwashed alt right lovers on here.

The Fox piece is a right wing hit. Simple as. Then again they seem to be supporting Putin over Ukraine, which tells you all you need to know about the veracity of anything they claim.


If it’s a naturally occurring virus surely China would alert the WHO and be asking for help - not covering it up. It doesn’t make any sense at all.

Whereas if you’ve (even accidentally) released a lab made deadly pathogen then I suppose it would be more expedient to hush it up.

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Fauci's deadly corruption on 17:02 - Jan 27 with 2079 viewsYouBackJastard

My question is why a Swansea City forum, a Welsh football club, is considered the best place for discussion on an American doctor

You’ll be guaranteed to get a few people who will agree with you here but if you take this to a place where real scientists can see you’ll have a much better chance of getting a real audience who will explain any qualms you may have instead of a circlejerk of anti-vaccine propaganda from a bunch of dads with hangovers raving about conspiracies
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 17:18 - Jan 27 with 2072 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Fauci's deadly corruption on 17:02 - Jan 27 by YouBackJastard

My question is why a Swansea City forum, a Welsh football club, is considered the best place for discussion on an American doctor

You’ll be guaranteed to get a few people who will agree with you here but if you take this to a place where real scientists can see you’ll have a much better chance of getting a real audience who will explain any qualms you may have instead of a circlejerk of anti-vaccine propaganda from a bunch of dads with hangovers raving about conspiracies


WTF? This has nothing to do with the jabs. It has everything to do with the origin of the virus.

Arguably, it's the most important issue on Earth right now. Or at least it should be. I think we can safely say, if this virus had been created in a lab in the US or the UK, we'd be at war with every nation in the world by now and/or paying trillions in reparations.

You are the one making this political, not me. Whether you are on the Left or you are sane, it blows my mind that there isn't more outrage over this, from all of us.

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Fauci's deadly corruption on 17:31 - Jan 27 with 2059 viewsYouBackJastard

Fauci's deadly corruption on 17:18 - Jan 27 by Tummer_from_Texas

WTF? This has nothing to do with the jabs. It has everything to do with the origin of the virus.

Arguably, it's the most important issue on Earth right now. Or at least it should be. I think we can safely say, if this virus had been created in a lab in the US or the UK, we'd be at war with every nation in the world by now and/or paying trillions in reparations.

You are the one making this political, not me. Whether you are on the Left or you are sane, it blows my mind that there isn't more outrage over this, from all of us.


If it’s so important then why not take the discussion to a place of debate where science tends to be more factually accurate than here where misinformation is celebrated by some.
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 17:49 - Jan 27 with 2042 viewsAjack_Kerouac

Fauci's deadly corruption on 17:31 - Jan 27 by YouBackJastard

If it’s so important then why not take the discussion to a place of debate where science tends to be more factually accurate than here where misinformation is celebrated by some.


Why are you trying to close down this conversation?

Are you on every non-football thread telling people to 'take this discussion to somewhere more appropriate'?
The answer is 'no'.

So what is it about this conversation that makes you so uncomfortable?

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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Fauci's deadly corruption on 18:13 - Jan 27 with 2030 viewsExiledJack

Fauci's deadly corruption on 17:02 - Jan 27 by YouBackJastard

My question is why a Swansea City forum, a Welsh football club, is considered the best place for discussion on an American doctor

You’ll be guaranteed to get a few people who will agree with you here but if you take this to a place where real scientists can see you’ll have a much better chance of getting a real audience who will explain any qualms you may have instead of a circlejerk of anti-vaccine propaganda from a bunch of dads with hangovers raving about conspiracies


Some will disagree I’m sure, but I think this site is a great place for non-football discussion due to the principled moderation and the makeup of participants. As a group, you’re unlikely to find a lot of ulterior motives amongst Swansea fans. And there’s a wide range of expertise amongst board members, including helpful scientists.

Unfortunately there are very few places in the modern and online world where people can discuss matters freely without abuse or censorship. Keith is doing a fantastic job in running this site and fostering an environment for civil discussion and debate.
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Fauci's deadly corruption on 18:15 - Jan 27 with 2028 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Fauci's deadly corruption on 17:49 - Jan 27 by Ajack_Kerouac

Why are you trying to close down this conversation?

Are you on every non-football thread telling people to 'take this discussion to somewhere more appropriate'?
The answer is 'no'.

So what is it about this conversation that makes you so uncomfortable?


The fact he brought up "anti-vaccine propaganda" in a thread that hasn't mentioned the jabs at all - hasn't even hinted about them - speaks volumes.

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Fauci's deadly corruption on 18:32 - Jan 27 with 2015 viewsAjack_Kerouac

Fauci's deadly corruption on 18:13 - Jan 27 by ExiledJack

Some will disagree I’m sure, but I think this site is a great place for non-football discussion due to the principled moderation and the makeup of participants. As a group, you’re unlikely to find a lot of ulterior motives amongst Swansea fans. And there’s a wide range of expertise amongst board members, including helpful scientists.

Unfortunately there are very few places in the modern and online world where people can discuss matters freely without abuse or censorship. Keith is doing a fantastic job in running this site and fostering an environment for civil discussion and debate.


Great point well-made, I 100% agree.


There was a time when there was censorship on this site, we had bent referees.
The group that was for censorship flounced off in a huff to another site and enjoyed telling posters from here that they weren't welcome.
Then those posters would come back to call everybody that was left here an 'alt-right Nazi'.


These days, after a lot of hard work from Keith, Loyal and others, we have a thriving site full of vitality.
Like you say, this is one of the few places you can have a sensible discussion.

...and the posters of old who left have slowly trickled back, they can't get enough of 'alt-right Nazis'.



This fact tells it's own story.
It is a very similar phenomenon to all of the people from around the world clamoring to get into the UK...whereas every society ran by Socialists (in the past 110 years) watches on as it's people try to get the hell out of there ASAP.

This is why the Chinese Communists can't leave Taiwan alone...because it is a constant daily reminder of how wrong they have been and how much evil they have committed.

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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Fauci's deadly corruption on 19:24 - Jan 27 with 1995 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Fauci's deadly corruption on 17:02 - Jan 27 by YouBackJastard

My question is why a Swansea City forum, a Welsh football club, is considered the best place for discussion on an American doctor

You’ll be guaranteed to get a few people who will agree with you here but if you take this to a place where real scientists can see you’ll have a much better chance of getting a real audience who will explain any qualms you may have instead of a circlejerk of anti-vaccine propaganda from a bunch of dads with hangovers raving about conspiracies


So , say for instance the virus is discovered to be artificially weaponised to cause damage to humans in a laboratory.

Would you feel happy having it injected in to your arm - after being told it was 100% natural origin?

Would you call that pro vaccine lies and propaganda?

Would you feel upset and conned and that you also couldn’t sue for damages ???

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